and it shows to me that the used car price of the Malibu is probably better than it would be if you compared a non-MAXX '07 Malibu vs an '07 Accord.
No question about that. That 07 Malibu was a fleet queen and it showed up in resale value.
I don't know how aggressive Honda is on pricing now, but I know my Dad bought his 09 Accord Ex-L v6 (no NAV) which listed for around $29k for $26k in January of last year.
one of my officemates was driving his mother's '01 Camry, with about 100,000 miles on it, and it threw a rod. Busted right through the block! He said it had been making a clattering noise for awhile, and did admit that both he and his mother have let it run low on oil from time to time.
Now I'm not blaming Toyota for this, as any car will do that if you let it run out of oil. But it is kind of a wakeup call to some of the Toyota huggers who swear that you might as well weld the hood shut, because they don't need maintenance!
I'm also curious as to why he was driving his mother's car and not his own. He has a 1995 or so Camry himself, that's all beat to hell and leaking oil like it belongs in Exxon's shipping fleet, but it must be pushing 200,000 miles. Maybe he finally killed that one?
Something else that I thought was interesting. He took some pics of the hole in the engine block of his Mom's car, and it actually looked like it had rust on it! I would've thought Toyota would've been using an aluminum block by 2001? :confuse:
Now I'm not blaming Toyota for this, as any car will do that if you let it run out of oil. But it is kind of a wakeup call to some of the Toyota huggers who swear that you might as well weld the hood shut, because they don't need maintenance!
No doubt. Oil is just a little bit important. But you don't see thrown rods everyday.
But it is kind of a wakeup call to some of the Toyota huggers who swear that you might as well weld the hood shut, because they don't need maintenance!
LOL, yeah I too laugh at those that say stuff like that, "Heck at 100K miles they're just getting broken in".
I took my '85 Silverado to the transmission shop for a servicing. Local place that's been there since 1968, run by honest people who don't cut corners to get you in and out the door as quick as possible. My bill ran up to $120, and the only reason it was that much is that there were a couple seals leaking that he replaced while he was in there.
Well, we started talking about the "good old days" and how things have changed. The shop owner mentioned a Colorado he was doing work on because the 4wd went out on it. The part that failed was some little modulator that's mounted under the seat. Lightweight little thing that he said cost him $179, but I think the retail price is close to $300. Stamped on it was "DENSO"
Yup, it's definitely a global economy!
Oh, just for kicks, I asked the guy how much it would cost to rebuild the transmission in my Silverado, if it ever needed it. He said about $650. So, there were some things good about the "good old days"...the simplicity, at least. For comparison, he said the tranny in my Park Ave would run around $2200, and even that is probably cheap compared to a lot of these complicated 5/6/7 speeds, AWD units, etc.
I've read CVT's on Nissans being around 3 grand to 3300 bucks
I'd figure it would be more than that.
I had the trans in my '00 Suburban rebuilt at a independent shop for about $1600, he could have done it for about $1,200 with a cheap after market rebuild kid.
I due cringe to think what the 6 speed in my expedition could cost to have rebuilt. I do a fair amount towing so a rebuild sometime in the future is certainly a possibility.
Yeah, same here, I thought a CVT would be more. But I guess there really isn't a whole lot to them. Aren't they basically a belt and some tensioners that adjust to give you whatever ratio is needed?
I almost did a double-take though, when the guy at the tranny shop said he could rebuilt the THM350 in my truck for $650. That's exactly what it cost when I had them rebuild the Torqueflite in my '79 Newport, nearly 13 years ago! I know those 3-speed automatics aren't all that complicated by today's standards, but I figured that over the course of 13 years, there'd be SOME inflationary adjustment!
Aren't they basically a belt and some tensioners that adjust to give you whatever ratio is needed?
Some are are, but their are several different types of CVTs. Nissan's latest CVT uses disks and power rollers. It't pretty neat how it works. cvt
My wife had an 06 Ford 500 with a CVT for a company car for a while. She had 40k w/o any problems. That was an Aisin CVT I believe that was belt/chain type. It felt awkward when taking off from a dead stop, but from about 30 mph up it was great. No surges or lurching, or nasty kick downs to deal with, just smooth power. It was neat to punch it at any speed above 30 and the tach would immediately peg at 6k rpm or so and just stay there while accelerating. Definitely made the old Duratec snappy once under way. Above 40 it felt quicker than the 3800/4speed in her Grand Prix.
God is this not what you prayed for No work No Jobs and live off of the land? This is confusing how he got it wrong. The fact the plants went south was every one wanted cheep. You got it.
There is an old Chinese proverb that holds there can not be two suns in the sky, so there can be only one source of power in the land. It is an idea the Chinese Communist Party has embraced fully, leaving it congenitally opposed to any leadership or organization in China other than itself. It is hardly surprising then that the Chinese government is not ready to allow independent trade unions to exist because of their potential for creating political instability.
Labor rights remain the last frontier of change in. China, and the Communist Party is growing resistance to labor reform indicates that conditions for Chinese workers are likely to become worse before they get any better. This is a grim prediction for a country where independent trade unions are already banned and millions of workers go to bed every night in over crowded dormitory rooms after having worked fifteen to eighteen hours a day in Dickensian factories where some workers are literally worked to death. This phenomenon has added a new word to the Mandarin vocabulary - guolaosi which means "death from overwork." Global consumers have been shielded from knowing about the human cost of the Chinese products they purchase, as the press has been relatively tame in covering labor rights in China.
Which prompts the following quote/cliché:
There are those among us who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
My neighbor the TOY hugger called last nite to borrow my 91 Chebby PU with only 177000 mi on her. Yup his 04 TOY engine blew up with his wife yesterday at 132000 miles.
He is gonna need to remove that weld on the hood too.
But the dumb [non-permissible content removed] uneducated (white) American Teabagger, like Joe the Plumber drapes himself around with the American Flag bragging about his love of Country and Patriotism while driving a vehicle with an American Branded Emblem that was assembled, manufactured, and made from parts from "outside" the good old USA! This country is doomed due to the fact that Common Sense in no longer Common and the Bible Thumper`s are only concerned about G-D, Gay`s,Guns, and fetus`s!
That takes me back. My Dad is a big-time Ford fanatic. When we were kids, my Dad was taking my Mom out to dinner and his troublesome 1972 Ford LTD refused to start. My Dad's out in the street in his good suit fumbling around under the hood trying to get that beast to start while spewing more profanity than an average episode of "The Sopranos." He finally gave up and borrowed my Grandpop's super-reliable 1974 Chevrolet Impala.
I really wanted to. I tried out the Ford Fusion and Chevy Malibu. The Ford rode well but had bottom of the line styling (in my opinion) both in its exterior and interior. The Malibu, on the other hand, was very luxurious - a beautiful car. I almost bought it but its front seat was just a bit too contoured for my big butt.
I don't know about the other models from Ford and GM but there's definitely a lot of promise there.
Test drove, and made a bid to buy a Saturn Aura back in '07. Thank goodness it was more expensive to buy at the time, and I got the Accord SEV6 instead. The Aura would be worth zip now. The Aura / Malibu seems like a great engine in the 3.6V6 version, and the 6sp tranny seems good, though I would opt for a stick if available, due to throttle-by-itself syndrome, should it strike elsewhere. What I noted was the width of interior was a bit more narrow than the Accord, the parking brake was on the floor - yuk, and the windows were a tad small, as in too tall door syndrome strikes again. Other than that, it was pretty cool as a driving machine.
The Fusion looks fine to me, except for the BIG BUTT it has. Handling is OK too. Forget where the parking brake is placed on that one. It has good quality ratings, make in Mexico, which supports North America. Also really like the Mustang, once it gets the new turbo V6 in her. Taurus looks good, though it suffers small slit for a window syndrome as well as so many do these days. I am thinking, why not try out the Subaru, and get AWD for the price of FWD? The boxer engine is unique too. As for some of these cars nearing the $30K mark or better, I am thinking throw in some more bucks and consider a Bimmer or Mercedes. Ever look at the cost of a CTS these days -- whoa! New Euro Fords hold some promise as well, for those wanting tiny cars. Then there is Mazda to consider -- aren't some American built as well? The silly grin Mazda3 handles well, but oh that front -- wowie! :surprise:
Can't wait to see a Chrysler 300 parked next to a Fiat, which is parked adjacent to a fine shiny new Alfa Romeo. The service dept. guy is named Tony - really! This is not to say Tony will not beat the crap out of the 100th person to walk into the service dept. and say F ix I t A gain T ony !!! Many years ago we did have a Fiat dealership -- kinda miss the old Fiats. Of course today, gone are the cool sports cars they made.
Didn't know where else to post this, but Menard's (a competitor to Home Depot and Lowes here in the Midwest) has a buy American sale going on this week. They have a 20 page ad of nothing but items on sale that are made in the USA. Everything from 99 cent windshield washer fluid to $400 garage doors. They have $4.99 plastic lawn chairs, sealants, paints, even fluorescent tube light bulbs made in the USA. The list of items they have made in the USA is surprising. Who said we don't make anything anymore?
I would LOVE to see something like that here locally in Orlando. I'm sure we all want to spend our hard earned dollars in ways that keeps us all employed. But it's so difficult and time consuming to read each and every label.
Yeah, I think it's a great idea. I'm definitely heading over there this week to get some odds and ends. menards They are not down in Florida, but they definitely give the likes of Home Depot and Lowe's good competition here in the midwest.
t would be cool if more companies would do that...the Wal Mart equivalent would be a single page leaflet.
And that leaflet would be printed in China with paper harvested from a rainforest, and the ink would be a combination of lead-based paint and baby harp seal blood...
...of a company that fatally tried to circumvent the union:
Faced with striking workers at its Chicago factory, Schwinn suits outsourced manufacturing to Taiwan, choosing the aptly-named Giant Bicycle Company to fill the demand. And there is simply no better example of letting the fox guard the henhouse. Since bicycles are a simple technology, labor is the highest cost, and Giant’s Taiwanese workers are the cheapest anywhere. Giant to this day builds 90% of all bikes in the world at the same factory, often storing finished units of competing brands side-by-side. For Schwinn, the Giant outsourcing worked so well that when the strike ended, they continued outsourcing and didn’t upgrade domestic factories. Too bad they didn’t get a “non-compete” clause. Giant learned everything about Schwinn bikes and then some: they soon realized they were the tail wagging the dog. So Giant covertly sent sales reps to every Schwinn dealer in the US with the following sales pitch, in its entirety: “We know you like Schwinn, but we make Schwinn and we’ll charge you 30% less.” Schwinn dealers baled and a panicked Schwinn proposed a joint Schwinn-Giant brand, while pursuing a separate manufacturing deal with a Chinese manufacturer. But all leverage was gone– at the time of the offer, Giant was already selling 300,000 bikes a year under its own name. Schwinn declared bankruptcy in 1991, and today the brand is a shell of what it once was. Giant continues its uncontested reign as the largest bicycle manufacturer in the world.
was certainly a loser, it just goes to show what a company will do to avoid ridiculous union demands..while the faliure to get a noncompete hurt Schwinn, the union lost their jobs when they went on strike, and then lost them forever...
Long live the death of the union movement, may this nation thrive when the word "union" is struck from our vocabulary...
BTW, my Intrepid finally bit the dust. After 10 years, 12 days, and roughly 150,300 miles, someone pulled a hit and run on it while it was alone in a parking lot, and it was enough to total it.
I'm driving a 2000 Park Ave Ultra now. Nice, little-old lady car that only had 56,000 miles on it when I bought it. (up to 58,400 now). Good car, but I miss my Intrepid!
Intrepid and 300M are good looking cars indeed. Have you ever driven the Honda Accord V6? I have the '07 SE version and it is a great ride. I think you would find the steering feel just right and the cornering and balance pretty good for a FWD sedan. I have yet to drive an Audi, but I am thinking Honda exceeds most all cars in its class / price range. The V6 makes a wonderful sound at full throttle. Mash the pedal, wait for blast off and listen for Honda sweet engine sing. -Loren :shades:
I drove an Accord EX-L V-6 a few years ago at a test drive event that was put on by Motortrend and Ford, in an attempt to tout the Fusion AWD. They also had a Camry XLE V-6. Of the three, I liked the Accord the best by far. It was comfortable, seemed well-built, and would go when you stomped on it, and the steering and suspension seemed responsive enough that it almost begged you to get rough with it.
The Fusion is pretty snappy handling, in FWD. I am thinking if doing AWD, the Subaru comes to mind first, then Audi in premium AWD cars. Yea, the V6 in the Accord was just so much nicer. The GM 3.6 V6 is really a fine DOHC engine. Wish they would have kept the more trim CTS, with less, and not the new overdressed and more puffy and swoopy version, as the the 3.6 engine and the basic Arts & Science look was so unique. I never had what I would consider a great GM car, but stats wise, I hear good of the CTS. My dad's Cutlass 72' was cool looking and pretty reliable. Something went terribly wrong during the FWD years for GM. Did like the Camaro, and would consider a pre-2010, if going a Camaro Club, or perhaps just as say a third car some day. Current car is fat, with those terrible doors.
We ended up going with a CPO Camry (an 07 XLE) from up in NY where a friend is the used car manager. Nice and painless and for my wife it's perfect. Lots of toys on it which is cute.
I would not have minded testing out a Fusion and Mazda 6 but never got to it. The Legacy was too loud for her tastes.
For the first time in 9 years (well, except for the Celica) we bought a car without an American connection - it was built in Japan. Last time was the 02 Ody built in Canada. Current Ody was built in Alabama.
2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
Why was this recession so bad? so different? Ever stop to really think about it? Over the last 2 decades we have shipped and sent so much of our nations wealth and jobs overseas what do you think would happen? when you purchase forgein goods or services what does that do the strengthen our countries economy or stabilize our economic future as a nation? I have thought about this and have changed the way I spend my money. I vote with my dollar. For instance. I was at Home Depot needing a pump sprayer. The one from china was a few dollars less than the one made in the USA. I bought the one made in the USA. I look for alternatives. I shop local farmers markets/craft shows ect for gifts and foods. I have sat both of my teen daughters down and explained to them what it means to buy American/local. They understood what it means to their economic future. Wish we all did.
i am an autofan from china,you should come to china first,then your comments could be more persuading to everyone here. in china only the rich can drive their car freely,can you understand? i am afraid not. why?the answer is blowing in the wind.
I am glad to find someone that thinks as I do. Just yesterday I was in Sams Club and went to the frozen food dept and overheard a person saying they couldn't find anything that wasn't from China EXCEPT for the boxed wild caught Alaskan Salmon. That's all he was getting and so was I.
The difference between our recessions of the past and now is the absence of American industry. If you drive around the South there are factories everywhere that are empty. We bought the goods from China and Japan and the jobs are gone never to return. Just think of the American Industries that are now gone or nearly so: textile, automotive, electronics and now outer space jobs are being phased out in Florida at Cape Kennedy.
The story is the same with Japanese and Korean cars. Our fellow countrymen stood in line to buy first Volkswagens and then Toyotas and Kias. If asked these buyers of non-American good will tell you that it was made in Tenn or Ga. But the jobs are far and few between and then there is always the issue of "WHERE DID THE PROFIT GO"!
The money went back to Seoul or Tokyo where they built new roads, airports, libraries and other infrastructure. Now we are talking about rebuilding ours but its with BORROWED MONEY. The wealth of the USA has been sent overseas.
I realize that the unions are partly at fault because of their high salaries and Cadillac Health Care Plans. If you don't buy goods from American companies producing Made in the USA products you will be standing in the bread line with your fellow Americans.
China has too much influence on our country now but its only going to get worse. I look forward to the introduction of automobiles produced by China and India into the USA market. I should be fun to watch them muscle out the Japanese and Korean vehicles.
We bought the goods from China and Japan and the jobs are gone never to return. Just think of the American Industries that are now gone or nearly so: textile, automotive, electronics and now outer space jobs are being phased out in Florida at Cape Kennedy.
Well if it's any consolation, one job appears to be getting outsourced from Japan to the United States...figuring out why Toyotas have their sudden acceleration issue. I've heard NASA is going to try to find the cause!
Well if it's any consolation, one job appears to be getting outsourced from Japan to the United States...figuring out why Toyotas have their sudden acceleration issue. I've heard NASA is going to try to find the cause!
Heck, the Chinese are busy right now building their own supercarrier. Your Wal~Mart dollars at work. The Chinese will take Taiwan and there will be nothing we can do about it.
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No question about that. That 07 Malibu was a fleet queen and it showed up in resale value.
I don't know how aggressive Honda is on pricing now, but I know my Dad bought his 09 Accord Ex-L v6 (no NAV) which listed for around $29k for $26k in January of last year.
Now I'm not blaming Toyota for this, as any car will do that if you let it run out of oil. But it is kind of a wakeup call to some of the Toyota huggers who swear that you might as well weld the hood shut, because they don't need maintenance!
I'm also curious as to why he was driving his mother's car and not his own. He has a 1995 or so Camry himself, that's all beat to hell and leaking oil like it belongs in Exxon's shipping fleet, but it must be pushing 200,000 miles. Maybe he finally killed that one?
Something else that I thought was interesting. He took some pics of the hole in the engine block of his Mom's car, and it actually looked like it had rust on it! I would've thought Toyota would've been using an aluminum block by 2001? :confuse:
No doubt. Oil is just a little bit important. But you don't see thrown rods everyday.
LOL, yeah I too laugh at those that say stuff like that, "Heck at 100K miles they're just getting broken in".
Well, we started talking about the "good old days" and how things have changed. The shop owner mentioned a Colorado he was doing work on because the 4wd went out on it. The part that failed was some little modulator that's mounted under the seat. Lightweight little thing that he said cost him $179, but I think the retail price is close to $300. Stamped on it was "DENSO"
Yup, it's definitely a global economy!
Oh, just for kicks, I asked the guy how much it would cost to rebuild the transmission in my Silverado, if it ever needed it. He said about $650. So, there were some things good about the "good old days"...the simplicity, at least. For comparison, he said the tranny in my Park Ave would run around $2200, and even that is probably cheap compared to a lot of these complicated 5/6/7 speeds, AWD units, etc.
Are CVT's expensive to replace, I wonder?
I'd figure it would be more than that.
I had the trans in my '00 Suburban rebuilt at a independent shop for about $1600, he could have done it for about $1,200 with a cheap after market rebuild kid.
I due cringe to think what the 6 speed in my expedition could cost to have rebuilt. I do a fair amount towing so a rebuild sometime in the future is certainly a possibility.
I almost did a double-take though, when the guy at the tranny shop said he could rebuilt the THM350 in my truck for $650. That's exactly what it cost when I had them rebuild the Torqueflite in my '79 Newport, nearly 13 years ago! I know those 3-speed automatics aren't all that complicated by today's standards, but I figured that over the course of 13 years, there'd be SOME inflationary adjustment!
Some are are, but their are several different types of CVTs. Nissan's latest CVT uses disks and power rollers. It't pretty neat how it works. cvt
My wife had an 06 Ford 500 with a CVT for a company car for a while. She had 40k w/o any problems. That was an Aisin CVT I believe that was belt/chain type. It felt awkward when taking off from a dead stop, but from about 30 mph up it was great. No surges or lurching, or nasty kick downs to deal with, just smooth power. It was neat to punch it at any speed above 30 and the tach would immediately peg at 6k rpm or so and just stay there while accelerating. Definitely made the old Duratec snappy once under way. Above 40 it felt quicker than the 3800/4speed in her Grand Prix.
Labor rights remain the last frontier of change in. China, and the Communist Party is growing resistance to labor reform indicates that conditions for Chinese workers are likely to become worse before they get any better. This is a grim prediction for a country where independent trade unions are already banned and millions of workers go to bed every night in over crowded dormitory rooms after having worked fifteen to eighteen hours a day in Dickensian factories where some workers are literally worked to death. This phenomenon has added a new word to the Mandarin vocabulary - guolaosi which means "death from overwork." Global consumers have been shielded from knowing about the human cost of the Chinese products they purchase, as the press has been relatively tame in covering labor rights in China.
Which prompts the following quote/cliché:
There are those among us who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
He is gonna need to remove that weld on the hood too.
Those Japanese cities must be rolling in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ NO infrastructure here!!!!!!! Their cities are not falling apart like here in the USA.
Its going to be interesting to watch the Japanese fight it out with the Chinese and Indians for dominance in the American market.
What does Matt Dillon's deputy from "Gunsmoke" have to do with any of this? :P
I don't know about the other models from Ford and GM but there's definitely a lot of promise there.
The Fusion looks fine to me, except for the BIG BUTT it has. Handling is OK too. Forget where the parking brake is placed on that one. It has good quality ratings, make in Mexico, which supports North America. Also really like the Mustang, once it gets the new turbo V6 in her. Taurus looks good, though it suffers small slit for a window syndrome as well as so many do these days. I am thinking, why not try out the Subaru, and get AWD for the price of FWD? The boxer engine is unique too. As for some of these cars nearing the $30K mark or better, I am thinking throw in some more bucks and consider a Bimmer or Mercedes. Ever look at the cost of a CTS these days -- whoa! New Euro Fords hold some promise as well, for those wanting tiny cars. Then there is Mazda to consider -- aren't some American built as well? The silly grin Mazda3 handles well, but oh that front -- wowie! :surprise:
menards They are not down in Florida, but they definitely give the likes of Home Depot and Lowe's good competition here in the midwest.
I didn't know they could find so many things made in the USA...I thought all the US made anymore was corporate clowns and pickups :shades:
And that leaflet would be printed in China with paper harvested from a rainforest, and the ink would be a combination of lead-based paint and baby harp seal blood...
http://www.madeinusa.org/
http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/
http://www.madeinusaforever.com/index.html
Faced with striking workers at its Chicago factory, Schwinn suits outsourced manufacturing to Taiwan, choosing the aptly-named Giant Bicycle Company to fill the demand. And there is simply no better example of letting the fox guard the henhouse. Since bicycles are a simple technology, labor is the highest cost, and Giant’s Taiwanese workers are the cheapest anywhere. Giant to this day builds 90% of all bikes in the world at the same factory, often storing finished units of competing brands side-by-side. For Schwinn, the Giant outsourcing worked so well that when the strike ended, they continued outsourcing and didn’t upgrade domestic factories. Too bad they didn’t get a “non-compete” clause. Giant learned everything about Schwinn bikes and then some: they soon realized they were the tail wagging the dog. So Giant covertly sent sales reps to every Schwinn dealer in the US with the following sales pitch, in its entirety: “We know you like Schwinn, but we make Schwinn and we’ll charge you 30% less.” Schwinn dealers baled and a panicked Schwinn proposed a joint Schwinn-Giant brand, while pursuing a separate manufacturing deal with a Chinese manufacturer. But all leverage was gone– at the time of the offer, Giant was already selling 300,000 bikes a year under its own name. Schwinn declared bankruptcy in 1991, and today the brand is a shell of what it once was. Giant continues its uncontested reign as the largest bicycle manufacturer in the world.
Long live the death of the union movement, may this nation thrive when the word "union" is struck from our vocabulary...
There's a guy over here who could use your advice. See post # 52555.
BTW, my Intrepid finally bit the dust. After 10 years, 12 days, and roughly 150,300 miles, someone pulled a hit and run on it while it was alone in a parking lot, and it was enough to total it.
I'm driving a 2000 Park Ave Ultra now. Nice, little-old lady car that only had 56,000 miles on it when I bought it. (up to 58,400 now). Good car, but I miss my Intrepid!
Have you ever driven the Honda Accord V6? I have
the '07 SE version and it is a great ride. I think you
would find the steering feel just right and the cornering
and balance pretty good for a FWD sedan. I have yet
to drive an Audi, but I am thinking Honda exceeds most
all cars in its class / price range. The V6 makes a wonderful
sound at full throttle. Mash the pedal, wait for blast off and
listen for Honda sweet engine sing. -Loren :shades:
I would not have minded testing out a Fusion and Mazda 6 but never got to it. The Legacy was too loud for her tastes.
For the first time in 9 years (well, except for the Celica) we bought a car without an American connection - it was built in Japan. Last time was the 02 Ody built in Canada. Current Ody was built in Alabama.
in china only the rich can drive their car freely,can you understand?
i am afraid not. why?the answer is blowing in the wind.
The difference between our recessions of the past and now is the absence of American industry. If you drive around the South there are factories everywhere that are empty. We bought the goods from China and Japan and the jobs are gone never to return. Just think of the American Industries that are now gone or nearly so: textile, automotive, electronics and now outer space jobs are being phased out in Florida at Cape Kennedy.
The story is the same with Japanese and Korean cars. Our fellow countrymen stood in line to buy first Volkswagens and then Toyotas and Kias. If asked these buyers of non-American good will tell you that it was made in Tenn or Ga. But the jobs are far and few between and then there is always the issue of "WHERE DID THE PROFIT GO"!
The money went back to Seoul or Tokyo where they built new roads, airports, libraries and other infrastructure. Now we are talking about rebuilding ours but its with BORROWED MONEY. The wealth of the USA has been sent overseas.
I realize that the unions are partly at fault because of their high salaries and Cadillac Health Care Plans. If you don't buy goods from American companies producing Made in the USA products you will be standing in the bread line with your fellow Americans.
China has too much influence on our country now but its only going to get worse. I look forward to the introduction of automobiles produced by China and India into the USA market. I should be fun to watch them muscle out the Japanese and Korean vehicles.
Well if it's any consolation, one job appears to be getting outsourced from Japan to the United States...figuring out why Toyotas have their sudden acceleration issue. I've heard NASA is going to try to find the cause!
It's a global neighborhood, after all.
Regards,
OW