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After seeing one at the car show, no way you could get me in a Smart, instead...
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Veloster is doing well:
http://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/2012/03/01/LA63064
And did not cannibalize the Accent, which is the real news. Those are pure incremental sales for them.
Another example is the Honda Element. I know it's been cancelled, but for the first few years it sold well, and more importantly it did not take away from CR-V sales (the platform it was based on).
Ironically, the CR-V actually became the best selling SUV only after the Element was offered for sale right next to it.
So these oddballs manage to appeal to different buyers than the pedestrian cars they're based on.
Even though the Veloster isn't a hybrid the highway MPG is in the same ball park.
I guess the turbo has the quirky oddball sports niche all to itself.
Hyunkia is determined to be everything for everyone - surprised they haven't gone for pickups yet.
I always thought Honda should do a non-hybrid CR-Z, even the Civic engine would be peppy enough. Or build a Fit Si.
There would be demand for a small/sporty car, I think.
How else are you gonna get 54.5mpg and still have fun? :shades:
the Hyundai dealer was even busier. Was still packed at 6:30 (1/2 hour past closing), so they must have been working on legit deals!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Cute, but I worry about visibility given there's no windows behind the rear door.
Still, looks 1000 times better than the BMW 1 series 5 door.
It's coming here, and I bet it will sell fine - people will buy the badge.
I predict it'll do well.
We prefer "thrifty" ....
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Could have leased an E350 diesel for under $500/mo.. for just 24 months... I'm pretty sure my nose would still have been pointed up... lol..
Didn't feel any less cool driving the Z4, just because the payment was $335/mo... etc, etc...
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Unfortunately (or fortunately), my wife had test driven an E-Class by the time they came back with that deal... and, she had decided it was too large for her.. Otherwise, I would have jumped on it...
This was just one month after I leased the service loaner Z4.... which she also said she didn't want (after we got it)... So, I sort of learned my lesson... Her friend is now driving the Z4, and my teenager is bummed that his mother is an old lady... lol
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I have thought my next car purchase might be a lease to see if I really want the car for the long haul, then buy it when the lease is up, or drop the keys and move to something else without risk.
Usually 24 month leases are a lot higher than 36 months... I like the short ones, though... .never have to worry about replacing tires, etc...
1% of MSRP is a really good lease payment... but, getting harder and harder to find.. not a ton of good leases, right now...
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Since mid August last year it has almost 2300 miles on it.
Had 2 other drivers cut me off in a 5 mile round trip.
Still the worst thing about small cars.
Some banks allow you to lock the lease program for orders... others don't...
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Curious though, did they determine what actually caught fire and what caused it?
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
All European cars are tested by Euro Ncap and the MINI fared pretty well. If you search for euroncap you can see the test results for all the euro stuff together with the associated comments. Nowhere is the possibility of fire mentioned. I suspect I know why.
But there are a lot of factors as well. If you hit one of those bars on the back of a semi trailer, for example, you would likely find your roof and windshield taking most of the force (and your head if you didn't duck in time). If the vehicle in question was lifted had a trailer hitch or steel bumper and it punched a hole in the hood (car dove under it, essentially missing the Mini's bumper entirely) and took out the fuel rails, and/or hoses, I could see a fire starting. Crashes are always part luck.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Well, maybe that would be relative if the turbo engine had caught fire, thereby causing the front of the car to explode in flames and then the subsequent crash.... However, it appears the fire erupted AFTER the crash.
And, lets remember that a recall doesn't apply to problems, but "potential" problems, which in most cases, no one actually ever experiences.
Sounds like someone "venting" to me...
And, yes, it is obviously someone venting, if the story is true, that is, and probably reposted the same thing in 100 different places and we'll never hear from that person again.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
If that's all they say and then disappear, it's trolling.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The point I was poorly attempting to make was that, in most recalls, the odds of the recalled "event cause" happening to any particular car are extremely low. And, this particular issue bears that out. 4 incidents out of a potential 89k, if I remember the number correctly.
I guess I just find it odd how some folks, in this case, the "venting individual" (wanna be politically correct, you know...) often see clear lines between 2 events (in this case, vehicle fire), when there aren't any clear lines at all.
I have to disagree. I will post a one off post on other sites about bad service or a bad product. Vent posts aren't necessarily inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic nor intended to disrupt the conversation (paraphrasing Wiki).
btw, if you ever get to Callahan Florida, be sure to eat at the Pig Bar B Que. The BBQ sauce was so good I had to buy a bottle, and the fried oysters were the best we've had yet this trip. Even saw a subcompact Fiat 500 as I was pulling out of the parking lot. :shades:
His was.
Well, maybe his was incendiary.
Wasn't there some Isuzu that was crash-tested and failed because of a fuel leak? They probably didn't use gasoline in it, but maybe some other liquid, so that they could see if there was a rupture? For some reason I'm thinking it was a Trooper?
Oh, as for the Mini that burst into flames, they forgot to mention that the car that was rear-ended was a 1965 Ford Mustang with a lift kit in the rear, and a rusty gas tank! :P
Similar problem happened with 2001 Dodge Grand Caravans too.
And the 2004 Toyota Sienna got retested because of a fuel leak in the first test. (IIHS). That one led to a recall.
Oh, another one for the 2004 Elantra. I need to quit searching - must be a dozen of these out there.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
A couple weeks ago, I saw a Sonic sedan pull up next to an '04-07 style Malibu. I swear the two looked to be roughly the same size, and the Sonic, thanks to its higher beltline and rump, and thicker roof pillars, actually looked beefier!
Going by specs, the '04 Malibu is on a 106.3" wb and around 188" long, compared to a 99.4" wb and 173" long. That sounds like a pretty big difference on paper, but somehow, the Malibu does a good job at hiding those extra 15 inches, and ends up looking diminutive, IMO.