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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    Actually Mac, Toyota has been riding a wave of popularity for it's Lean and Quality initiatives in various corporate circles. You might say they are helping define what that means to manufacturers - what to imitate and what not to imitate. :surprise:
  • crookiecrookie Member Posts: 5
    There is a service bulitin to repair all the complaints on the 2007 Camry I4 model. there are still problems with the V6 tranny but be asure the will come out with a fix for that also. I just got my update fo I4 and car runs a shifts much better. if you have the hesitation problem take it in for TSB sofware update youll be satisfied. dont know bout V6 owners how soon they will be satisfied.check out http://www.toyotanation.com/ for more info
  • foxwood_21foxwood_21 Member Posts: 31
    Is or will there be any Class action for the owners of 2007 Camry 4cly that have the hesitation issue that has nor been fixed with the 2 TSB's that been issued
    In my opinion the 4cyl is on unsafe to be diven on US roads.
  • crazedcommutercrazedcommuter Member Posts: 281
    Dear Mack
    Don't get your floor mats in a gnurl.
    What do I see when I look at Scion? I see a rebadged Toyo with a better "quality" rating than the recent Camry line. My definition of "quality" is a long sweep on the Scion forum to see the low number of complaints versus the higher amount noted on the Toyota Camry forum. All I have to do is look at the number of complaints for each. It's just that simple.
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    All I have to do is look at the number of complaints for each. It's just that simple.

    Well it's obviously not that simple. You totally ignored the quantity of vehicles sold of each make...the sample size.

    One complaint out of three vehicles sold, is a much worse percentage of problems than 10 complaints out of 1000 vehicles sold. (Not the actual numbers)
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Member Posts: 1,722
    The latest TSB has fixed the 4 cylinder hesitation problem. I have not read or heard of anyone that says otherwise.
  • roadtripgirlroadtripgirl Member Posts: 20
    Thanks for the valuable info - I am about to buy a new car and the Camry V6 was first on my list. If it makes you feel any better, I purchased a new 1999 Acura CL 3.0. I'm on my fourth transmission at 67K miles. An upscale Honda is no better than Toyota. Acura has done nothing at all to resolve the issue. CR hasn't dropped Acura in ratings, though...I hope they do! Good luck with your Camry.
  • philwiduchphilwiduch Member Posts: 6
    Keeping 05 SE Decided last night. I hear there might be an issue with oil sludge. Similar to Passat? Have had no issues with my car so far. Dealer tells me there was a problem with sludge in 05. Maybe he just wants me to buy his new Camry??
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Member Posts: 1,722
    He is full of it. The sludge issue only occurred if you did not change your oil often enough in the generation 4 Camry, not the gen. 5 (which the generation of your 05).

    See message #5380 in Toyota Engine sludge and #4829 in Toyota Camry: Problems & Solutions - READ ONLY". The generation 4 engines were not as tolerant of neglect as most engines.

    I would not do business with this salesperson, and I would keep your '05. It is almost always best financially to keep your old car, and it is still pretty new. I only get new ones after they are over 10 years old, and my old Toyotas never let me down!
  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    Best to keep what you have and are happy with. With your low mileage, it's definitely a keeper. Newer isn't always better and you'll be giving the new owner of your '05 model one sweet automobile. And the dealership will make a handsome profit to boot.
    Keep it and wait a couple of years to see what's going on with the petrol situation. Who knows, there may be some viable alternatives to oil that could be in the newer models. With petrol prices slapping the $100.00 mark, it's not that far fetched.
    Just my $.02 here but I'd keep what you got if it's running trouble free. Save the $ for a 2010 model.

    The Sandman :)
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    That's nonsense. Sludge ended with the 2002 models; these salesmen will say anything to get you into a new car!
  • lwittlwitt Member Posts: 7
    I install painted body side moldings at dealerships. I can send you what you need. It has user friendly instructions, and has a 5 yr warranty
  • lwittlwitt Member Posts: 7
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  • lwittlwitt Member Posts: 7
    I install painted moldings at dealerships. If you still need these, they have a 5 yr warranty and have user friendly installation guide
  • iplanetiplanet Member Posts: 27
    Where's the good place to order Toyota genuine touch up paint via online?

    :)
  • samkhan1samkhan1 Member Posts: 7
    What is the TSB?
    I bought a 2007 Camry 2 month ago (5200 miles now), I noticed the hesitation, rough idling and vibration over 80 mph.
    Dealer says everything is normal. I don't believe them. What shall I do? I am thinking of dumping the car at their door steps. I don't enjoy driving that car anymore and I have 5 years to go. Help?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Member Posts: 1,722
    Technical Service Bulletin EG036-07. Takes a half an hour. Tell the dealer you have hesitation and unsmooth acceleration and you need this TSB done. The TSB came out in early August, so check your build date on the plate inside the driver's door. I would bet that this is probably all you need.

    Vibration is a different issue, could be wheels need to be balanced, bad tire, alignment off, etc. If you do not get satisfaction from your dealer, either complain to Toyota about that dealer or go to another Toyota dealer.
  • joel16joel16 Member Posts: 64
    Just to be clear, this TSB is for 4cyl engines. I have spoken to many people while out and about shopping, getting gas, etc. and find that (a) some haven't had the TSB installed, and are unhappy with their cars; I keep a copy of this TSB in my car and give it to them (b) some had the hesitation problem, had the TSB installed, and are now very happy with their cars and (c) the 2008 4cyl does not have the problem (has the new software). When you get this TSB, please rememeber to have service connect the car to an alternate battery source; this TSB install can take more than 1/2 hour, and can drain the battery.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Member Posts: 1,722
    "When you get this TSB, please rememeber to have service connect the car to an alternate battery source; this TSB install can take more than 1/2 hour, and can drain the battery. "

    As long as you have a decent dealer, they will follow the TSB procedure, which involves connecting the car to an alternate battery source. And if they schedule correctly, you should have it back in 1/2 hour. That's how long it took my dealer, from the time they took the car out of the drop off area to the time they brought it back to me.
  • joel16joel16 Member Posts: 64
    mcdawgg, you are correct about the alternate battery source being mentioned in the TSB. However, all dealers are not equal, so seems worth mentioning to people. I highlighted this requirement on the copies of the TSB I carry around with me.
  • mbruckermbrucker Member Posts: 2
    I asked my dealer about the 2nd TSB. They told me it was just a reissue of the first one. I gather that's incorrect. Any suggestions on how I can convince them it's a new and different one that should be performed? Thanks for any ideas!
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    Wow, that's really (really) nice of you. Seems like you're doing Toyota a big favor in your area by helping out people that have assumed it's supposed to operate that way. They might actually enjoy their Toyota vehicle after the update. Imagine that.

    There must be advantages to keeping it a voluntarily program, implemented as a TSB.

    Seems though they've forgotten the meaning of customer-centricity and good communication.

    The previous poster indicating their service department claims the TSB is identical to the one released earlier - now that's classic. Almost as non-genuine as "They all operate this way", "Everything is normal", "Operating as designed", "Cannot duplicate".

    Shame. :sick:
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Member Posts: 1,722
    TSB EG036-07 I4 ECM Calibration - 8/2/07 is the one that replaces all the other TSBs for this problem. It is a revision of the old TSBs. It is not the same. If you read the TSB, it even says something like that. Your service person is full of it. Print the TSB and take it over there and tell them to read it and do it. Or try another dealer, or call Toyota and tell them about dealer.
  • eroc69eroc69 Member Posts: 56
    I just set up an appointment for Weds. to have the hesitation looked at. Also will have them check the shaking of the steering wheel etc and maybe look into the softness of the driver seat. I was there about 6 months ago and they had an 07 in there and the seat was noticeably firmer.
    ALso, the tires they said I need to contact the manufacturer. SO its off to Bridgestone I call.
    Is that right? I need to contact the tire mftr. for that?
    My tires have 13K on them and they're horribly low tread. :lemon:
  • samkhan1samkhan1 Member Posts: 7
    Thanks alot for the info, but where can I get a copy of this TSB? is it on the internet that I can download?
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Look thru the forums ( I think it might be in the Transmission problems forum). Someone else originally posted it when it came out, and I know I re-posted it once.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    In case some folks aren't aware of this, you can go to the Camry group link and search from there. That way all the discussions in the group are searched.

    :)
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    A reporter aims to connect with a V6 Camry owner who has encountered quality problems, particularly with the car's six-speed transmission. If you have a relevant experience to share, please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com with a few words about your experience along with your daytime contact info and the model year of your Camry. Please respond no later than Monday, November 5, 2007.

    Thanks,
    Jeannine Fallon
    Corporate Communications
    Edmunds.com
  • philwiduchphilwiduch Member Posts: 6
    Thanks for the info. MUCH APPRECIATED Am Keeping the 05. It is a beauty of an SE. Will look up that info.
    Phil
  • philwiduchphilwiduch Member Posts: 6
    Thank you for your opinion. Wife and I decided to keep the 05. Ans as a former stockbroker, banker, yopu are right on with the crude oil prices.
  • samkhan1samkhan1 Member Posts: 7
    Today the dealer installed (upload) the new TSB EG036-07 for my new Camry 2007 (4cyldr) and I drove it all day long for the new program to be learned and rough idling did not go away. My car still reads 500-600 RPM when it is stopped (idling). Is this range of RPM is normal? I checked other new 2007 Camry in the same dealer, and they idle 900 RPM!! and the dealer tells me my car within range! I don't believe them since other cars read 900 RPM. What could be the problem? Please help. Thx.
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Well here's just another reference point for you.

    My 4 cyl LE 2007, with approx 22K miles on it, idles when warmed up at about 750RPM. It is halfway between the 500 and 1000 ticks on the tachometer. This is without the airconditioner on, DRL on, radiator fans OFF, and car and completely warmed up and has been driven around local area.

    I do also have the TSB on, but I'd indicate that none of the TSB's have ever appeared to effect idling.

    The RPM's are obviously higher when the engine is cold and warming up. I did take care for the first 1K miles breaking it in carefully/reasonably.

    Have you considered swapping to a different gasoline dealer to see if that has any effect?
  • eroc69eroc69 Member Posts: 56
    Like I posted a few days ago, I had my 07 V-6 in the shop for repairs. The service man called my contact # and left a message saying they were having problems with either THEIR computer {for the TSB hesitation} or my cars 'puter was having issues. They finally got it to download properly. The hesitation does seem to be GONE. I dont have my hopes up too high but its gone for now.
    THey did oil change, they balanced the car for FREE. It was pulling to the right. The shake is still there and as noticable as b4.
    They did say my tires being down to 4/32nds was UNUSUAL BUT most cars need rubber between 15 and 18K..
    THATS UNACCEPTABLE. He didnt care but did offer to get me a set of Michelin Exalto A/S at the low low low low price of
    ARE YOU GUYS SITTING DOWN???

    $640.00 :mad:
    Geeee thanks but no thanks....

    SO in closing, the car needs tires at 14,000 miles, the pull to the right seems ok, the hesitation seems to be gone but the car shaking seems to be related to tire need.

    Once again, anyone have $500.00 for me to buy tires? :P
  • samkhan1samkhan1 Member Posts: 7
    The service manager told me (was able to trick him ) that main problem with vibration (over 80 MPH) problem on my 2007 LE Camry (5200 miles) was not the tire, he said it was the steel wheels! I asked him if they install Aluminum rims, would solve the problem, he said Toyota takes so much pride on those and that why they are so expensive. Maybe we can push with Toyota to install them on. What do you think?
  • iplanetiplanet Member Posts: 27
    Just to clarify, "TSB installation" requires for 2008 4cyl. Camry as well?
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    Most cars need rubber between 15 and 18K...

    That's a good one. What a line.

    When you get new treads, I'd recommend a 4wheel alignment.

    First I'd look on www.tirerack.com to see what the reviews are for tires compatible with your rims, and compare to your OEMs. No doubt your OEMs are lower-grade, but I think 14K is just unacceptable.

    Shop around, sometimes tire stores have a 3 for the price of 4 deal, or you can get a manufacturer's rebate (check the Michelin site).
  • chuck_in_texaschuck_in_texas Member Posts: 1
    That's pretty steep. What part of the country are you in?

    In Texas and the gulf States, the distributor ( Port, Inc. ) makes a tire plan available to all its dealers, and I took it for my 2007. they way it works is that it's good for 50,000 miles. Every 5,000 miles, you bring your car in for rotation ( which I would do anyway ), and for each rotation you get credit. If you went the full 50K ( highly unlikely, of course) you'd get a $500 rebate on your new tires. At about 30K ( which is waht I would target ), the rebate is about $300. So, even if the dealer's prices are higher than WalMart, the rebate brings them down.

    Haven't heard anyone around here who took it complain. See if it's not available in your area.

    chuck_in-texas
  • eroc69eroc69 Member Posts: 56
    Yeah thats what I thought.
    I have priced tires online at Tirerack and at a local NTB.
    I guess Iam kinda up the creek without a paddle cause in PA its going to be snowing soon {anytime after mid Nov. maybe} and its every hilly. We cant get away with summer only tires here even with some AWD vehicles. I bought my wife a set of Michelin Hydro Edge and they {4} cost me over $500.00
    Guess I gotta pony up and buy something decent.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Member Posts: 1,722
    "I bought my wife a set of Michelin Hydro Edge and they {4} cost me over $500.00"

    They are expensive, but I would say they are worth every penny. Great tires!
  • aloegreenaloegreen Member Posts: 1
    Speaking of new tires. I just switched over from summer to winter tires. I have a 2007 XLE with tire pressure sensors. The guy at the tire place "offered" to replace the pressure sensors with a kit. $11 per valve stem. He said "the manufacturer recommended it at every tire change-over." Anyone heard of this? I've been through two change-overs and not had this pushed at me before. Thanks.
  • djm2djm2 Member Posts: 712
    Good Morning eroc69:
    I own a 2007 V6 XLE Toyota Camry with 19000+ miles. It will be one year old in January. When I purchased this vehicle, it had either Bridgestone of Firestone tires on it at the time. (I can't remember!) Since I don't like either brand, I had the dealer replace the tires with Michelin tires, before I took delivery of the vehicle. By choice, I service my verhicle every 2,500 miles, and the tires are rotated every 5,000 miles. To date, the vehicle does not have any vibration, and it tracks straight on the road! I have had this vehicle up to 80mph on turnpikes, and I could let the wheel go, and it would not pull to either side.

    SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU WITH A "PROBLEM VEHICLE"?
    1.) I would first have the tires on the car checked for being "out of round", and to see if the tread in mounted on the casing of the tire properly. It is possible that there is a manufacturers defect on one or more of your tires.
    2.) I would have the wheels checked for damage.

    My first guess it that you have a set of problem tires. All the balancing and alignment in the world is not going to correct a construction problem with tires. (THIS COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS!)
    I always use Michelin tires on my vehicles. I had a set of Michelin tires on my 2003 4 cylinder Honda Accord. I replaced them at 50,000 miles because I picked up a large screw that totally destroyed one tire. I replaced the tires with the same original equipment Michelin tires. I traded the vehicle with the second set of tires at around 90,000 miles.
    When you replace the tires, have a four wheel alignment done at the same time!
    Best regards. -----Dwayne :shades: ;):)
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    i'd have to agree with mcdawgg, tires - now that is one place not to go cheap, and if you are nearing the wear bars, you know you need something soon but luckily you have some time to shop and get a fair deal.

    i don't know how NTB (sears?) compares to the other outlets where you are. sometimes a tire you want isn't available at each chain (or each store at a particular chain). makes comparison price shopping a challenge. the paper often advertises specials, so it's good to look. and it doesn't hurt to ask if a store is running a special or about to.

    chances are, you're gonna get much better mileage out of the replacements.

    i just make it a point never to put a new set of expensive tires on a vehicle that may have gone out of alignment over the span of the service from the previous set. it adds real expense, but i think it's worth it. in your case, your vehicle may never have been in proper alignment to begin with, or one good curb hit or road debris hit...

    for that matter, the way i see some of these vehicles dogged down on the vehicle transports, i wonder if some of them in the oddly precarious positions have undue stressors placed on the tires or suspension components before they reach the dealerships. hmmm.

    then again, a lost balance weight or a tire with a defective set of bands. these are things all of us have experienced from time to time right?

    personally, if I can get 40K out of a set of tires, I consider myself doing pretty well. i've got a set of michelin harmonys on my accord that have given me 45K thus far. still plenty of tread. in the south, i don't have a need for a snow tire so i consider myself lucky in that regard. i've had good experiences with michelins on several cars.

    happy hunting.
  • jack47jack47 Member Posts: 312
    Re: tires

    FWIW, I still have the original Dunlop tires on my 1995 Camry. And they have never been rotated. They still have a good thread and should more than hold out till I pick up a new car in the next few months.

    Granted I only have 49,000 miles on the car...
  • garsarnogarsarno Member Posts: 72
    Have a '07 Lexus ES350, Michelin MXV4S8 tires, down to 3-4/32" in 8,864 miles. Called Michelin, no treadwear warranty on these OEM tires but they gave me 75% off new set. Cost for 215/55R17 tires were $52.98 each, installed, balanced, mounted etc. Added 6% sales tax.
  • mackabeemackabee Member Posts: 4,709
    What's really bad is the stupidity of this recall. People that are having this "problem" are putting the all-weather mats on top of the optional mats. The all weather mats are designed to go on top of the carpet and not the optional mats. There are two retaining hooks that hold the mats down. What's really funny is we are having customers coming in with the recall letter and asking if they have that type of mat when it's obvious they have the carpet floor mats. :confuse: Are people really that stupid?
  • mackabeemackabee Member Posts: 4,709
    No kidding! I'll buy it from you/
    Mackabee
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    My guess would be that many (most?) owners have never seen the all-weather mats, at least not knowingly, and therefore cannot as readily differentiate between the two as can "we".

    Safety FIRST...!!!
  • eroc69eroc69 Member Posts: 56
    Same here BUT I have Bridgestones and for them to gimme warranty prorated discount I HAVE to buy new 'stones.

    I dont want Bridgestones, even if they are 72% off.
    Well maybe. I might break down and get the Potenza G-009
    They looked good performance and decent all weather.
    I do want to get either Yokohama AVID TRZ or Michelin Exalto A/S
    But thats gonna set me back $400+ for the Yoko and almost $600 for the Exaltos :cry:
  • mmcdonald0123mmcdonald0123 Member Posts: 1
    I bought an 07 Camry LE as well...and having the same problem. I took mine back 2 days after it was bought and the dealership did an alignment and check my tire pressure. I too was told the same thing. I only feel the pulling when I am going high speeds on the interstate. I live in the state of Georgia and after three attempts to fix the problem...I filled through the Georgia Lemon Law. I received a new 2008 Camry for my troubles. Go to find out...the 08 is doing the same thing...maybe not as bad. Also, the steering shakes. A new car should NOT drive this way.
  • alan_salan_s Member Posts: 362
    I had the same problem with my 2002 Avalon and 2006 Altima 3.5 Both came with Continental tires. After numerous unsuccessful dealer trips, I replaced the Continentals on the Avalon with Bridgestone Turanza LSH's and that cured the vibration and pulling problem. The Turanza LSH is a very quiet and smooth-running tire, but has a firmer ride than the Continentals. I prefer a softer ride.
    I put Goodyear Assurance Comfortred on the Altima and it also cured the vibrations.
    My preference is the Goodyear - a phenominally quiet tire with a very cushioned and smooth ride. It completely transformed the Altima. I have recommended this tire to friends with Camrys and they also like the Comfortred.
    I think your car has Continentals too. Press the dealer to replace them with either of the above tires which are a good match for your car. If the Toyota dealer won't, (and they probably won't do ANYTHING for you) then go to Discount Tire, buy the tires and have them balanced using a Hunter GSP 9700 Road Force.
    Discount Tire will "trade-in" your used tires for $20 or $30 each toward the cost of the new tires.
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