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I think you should get a new repair shop. The brakes on a 2007 Camry are disc brakes on all four wheels, with the additional parking brakes in the rear inside the rear rotors. There is no way, that anything related to rear parking brakes would cause front brakes to wear.
You are either mistaken about your situation, or you should find a different repair shop.
No offense intended........but, either YOU totally misunderstood the "mechanic" who spoke to you, or, the "they" that you refer to is a totally untrained person.
No vehicle requires rear brake adjustment that frequently.
If there were some sort of exotic "balancing device" on the Camry that activated all four wheels' brakes when the emergency were applied, that MIGHT wear out your front brakes...........but, I don't think there's anything quite that fancy on our '07 Toyotas.
Get a new shop!
I called Toyota Canada to inquiry about if this is a regular procedure. Customer service representative told me that she did not know. I asked her to direct me to someone who knows. She said there is no body who can help me on this. Horrible customer service !! I just hang up the phone.
I do not know what to do now. I do not want them to put a used transmission on my Camry. Because I had too many other problems with this car since the first day I bought it, I do not want to take any more risk, which potentially create more major problems.
Specialty repair shops (engine rebuilds, transmission rebuilds, A/C shops, dashboard rebuilds, etc) would see and repair many more of that particular item.....and therefore have the potential to do a better repair, than a lower skill level generalist.
If I had this problem, I'd love to have a new transmission but I don't think that is required or reasonable (if I got it fabulous). My next preference would be a specialty rebuild, and then my last preference would be a local rebuild.
This must be a common practice going back a long time. I had the transmission go bad in a 1991 Honda Accord at 13K miles, and it was replaced with a factory remanufactured unit. The dealer told me that they could not get a new transmission. The reman trans was still going strong when I sold the car with 215K miles on it!!!
This must be a common practice going back a long time. I had the transmission go bad in a 1991 Honda Accord at 13K miles, and it was replaced with a factory remanufactured unit. The dealer told me that they could not get a new transmission. The reman trans was still going strong when I sold the car with 215K miles on it!!! And my teenage son drove it for the last 75K miles!!!
QUESTION: ----- How many people on this board, (who own a 2007 V6 or 4 Cyl Toyota Camry), are considering trading their vehicle for another car in the light of this acceleration problem? ----- How many people would like Toyota to buy them out of their vehicle?
Best regards. ------- Dwayne :shades: :sick: :confuse:
If there is a problem with these vehicles, I do not think it is in the accelerator pedal assembly. ---- I think it is in the cruise control assembly. ------ (There is something sending an "acceleration command" to the computer in place of the driver! ---- The only thing that can do this is the cruise control. ----- Could it be that somehow the cruise control is being left on, while the driver is operating the vehicle in manual mode???? ---- Could it be that there is an "electrical leak" between the "cruise control circuit" and the "on-board computer?")
I am going to watch these vehicles VERY carefully to see if the "repaired vehicles," (with the new accelerator pedal), have further problems.
While I DO NOT have any problems at this point in time with my 2007 V6 XLE Camry, I do place a high value on human life. ----- I would not want to be involved in an accident, because of a mechanical / electrical malfunction that could have been prevented. ------ As owners of these vehicles, we need a "guarantee" from the Toyota Motor Car Company that these vehicles are safe when driven as designed. Anything short of that would be criminal!
Best regards. -------- Dwayne :shades: :sick: :mad: :confuse:
You still have ultimate control of your car, even if the accelerator sticks for whatever reason. Do what I did (no, I didn't have any problems, but I practiced.
Find an empty stretch of road, probably not an interstate. Now, take your car up to a speed you find comfortable -- 20, 40, 65 (I did 40). Next, floor your accelerator pedal. Let those ponies run free. A split second later, while still holding your right foot to the floor, jam on the brake pedal with your left foot. Miracle of miracles, the car just stops! Oh there's some fighting as the transmission downshifts through the gears, but the car does stop if you keep your foot on the brake pedal.
One more time, do the same thing but this time, shift into neutral right after you step on the brake pedal. The engine will rev up to its limiter, but the car stops normally because the engine is now disconnected from the wheels. Works like a charm!
I'd hate to see you lose faith in your Camry, which you have praised mightily over the last 3+ years. All those 2500-mile oil changes will have been wasted!
It doesn't work that way anymore on the 2007+, after the floor mat recall is installed.
The floor mat recall does three things. They cut down the pedal to make it shorter, they take out some padding under the carpet to increase clearance carpet to pedal, and they make a change to the computer to give the vehicle a brake cutoff override. That brake cutoff override, is what gives the vehicle an extra layer of safety, more so than my Ford and Chevy which still work they way you describe.
The best operating analogy I could give you, is that it works similar in principle to how the brake disengages the cruise control, if the cruise control was set. You drive down the road on cruise, and if you put your foot on the brake, then the car will drop out of cruise control and engine rpm drops down to idle. It's that same principle, which is now applied to the throttle ANYTIME the brake is depressed.
So 210 as you describe driving down the road and then putting foot on the brake, when you do that (post floor mat recall) the transmission will NOT downshift and rpm's increase. Actually the rpm's decreases as the throttle is reduced with the brake on. Pressing the gas pedal further has no effect. You have to take your foot off the brake, if you want to be able to accelerate again.
It's an interesting approach, and it wouldn't surprise me if all manufacturers begin to use that as their standard as well in the future.
Thank you for the posting! ------ I have also practiced placing my transmission in neutral. ---- I also place my transmission in neutral at a traffic light, and especially when people are crossing in front of my vehicle.
Since the "recall" has been initiated, I have not driven my Camry, even though it was manufactured in Japan, and the selling dealer, (based on the VIN number), tells me that it DOES NOT have the CTS Accelerator Pedal! ---- I want to see what the "fall out" is going to be on this issue after the "dust settles!" ---- At the present time, I am driving one of my other vehicles. The Camry is sitting in the driveway gathering dust. ---- I am not a happy camper with the manner in which Toyota handled this entire situation. ----- They could have been more "pro-active" when dealing with this problem. ----- Today, when there is a problem with a vehicle both the manufacturer and the dealer are VERY quick to place the blame on the driver. ----- There is more to this situation than is presently known! ---- If you remember, there was an issue with the 3 to 4 up-shift and the 4 to 3 down-shift. The "shift pattern" is based on throttle pressure and governor pressure. If the throttle is NOT reacting in a smooth / positive / efficient manner the shift pattern will be irregular. (It will more noticeable at slow speeds in city traffic especially when making turns into streets and then picking up speed. The transmission will be "hunting" for the correct gear application, and in the process, it might just go into a "neutral!") ------ Maybe the earlier "shift problems" were an indictor of a throttle issue, and transmission were replaced for the wrong reasons!
I will keep the Camry until November, and I will monitor this entire issue. If it is resolved, I will keep the vehicle. If it is not resolved, then I will take appropriate action based on the available options at that time. QUESTION: ---- Does anyone think that Toyota is going to come to your defense if you kill someone in an accident based on this problem? ----- They will "run for cover" and blame the entire issue on "driver error!" ----- You will be "on-your-own!" ----- I really like the Camry XLE, and I was looking at purchasing another toyota product, and trading one of my other vehicles in the process, but this issue, and the manner in which Toyota has handled this issue, has changed my mind. I am now looking at a top of the line Hyundai. ----- YES, ---- a Hyundai!!!!!! ----- How much worse could a Hyundai be as compared to the Toyota issue?????????????????????
Best Regards: ------------------Dwayne :sick: :confuse: :mad: :shades:
I think dwb2 said basically what I'd say. Don't be afraid of your Camry. You've not had any problems in what? Over 50K miles? Have the floormat interference recall done if you're car is included.
You're a traveling salesman exposed to all kinds of drivers in all kinds of traffic, including heavy trucks. Do you know what kind of lifestyle many truckers have? They're allowed to drive 11 hours per day and another 3 on duty, which means possibly loading or unloading their own trucks. How well do you think they can concentrate on driving in that 11th hour? Compare that against the very small risk of sudden acceleration, which has no known electronic cause, just a lot of hysterical speculation. Plus you can handle such an issue as an experienced driver, just as you probably know how to handle a skid, dropping a wheel off the pavement, having a blowout, or driving through a heavy downpour.
The car is going to deteriorate just sitting there. It must be driven occasionally. Otherwise by November, it may not start at all. And as has been pointed out, its resale value is down because of the hysteria.
Also please keep this in mind. According to the latest estimates from the US DOT, 33,963 lives were lost on US highways in 2009. The estimated number of deaths from Toyota sudden acceleration is 52, over a 10-year period. In other words, 93 people on average die every single day on US highways, and at most, 5+ die each year from alleged Toyota sudden acceleration. And we don't know if some of these deaths came from driver error, as in hitting the wrong pedal. If you're afraid of driving your Camry, you may as well quit driving altogether and stay home!
Sincerely,
210delray
Most accidents occurred are from human error. I am 100% confident in my 07 Prius. I have 64K reliable miles from the car and does not expect it to change . For those of you who are deathly afraid of your Toyota, please trade it in for another brand. Don't give your self a stomach ulcer over all this stress :confuse: .
As for the run away Prius, you have to be an idiot not to know how to put it into neutral. All you have to do is push the shifter to the left and hold it for 1 second. I tested this while on an empty road doing 45MPH with no problem. The only way to "accidentally" put the Prius into reverse while trying to put it into neutral, you would have to pull the shifter to the left, then up.
We decided to keep our Camry and wait for the recall notice. As mention in this forum, we considered the fact, that we haven’t had any problems. The resale value is low now. We still have like 3 1/2 years, before it’s paid off, with a low interest rate. The percent of reported cases of sudden acceleration and accidents because of it, are really small, compared to the millions of Camry’s sold for years 2007 +.
Well today, I took our Camry in for the floor mat recall, which did include them modifying the gas paddle and installing a brake override system as mentioned by Kiawah. The brake override system works really well and I’m thankful that Toyota did this for the older Camry’s. So now, we can drive with confidence again, that our Camry is a safe vehicle to drive. I encourage everyone to wait for the recall notice and have the work done, before trading your car in.
Even though they still haven’t found the cause of the sudden acceleration problem, which I hope they do. I am satisfied with the brake override system that was installed on our Camry and hope that all manufactures would put this on all vehicles in the future. :shades:
As a automotive manufacturer, Toyota has an obligation to the vehicle buying public to manufacture a product that is safe, and properly tested prior to putting in on the market. ------- "IF" there is a mechanical / electrical issue that is causing this vehicle to accelerate on it's own, this is a VERY serious issue, and Toyota has an obligation to correct the problem ASAP! ------ This problem is not the same as a flat tire, or a defective spark plug. This problem puts the driver at a disadvantage. --- If there is a problem with these vehicles, ---- I DO NOT believe that there is an issue with the accelerator pedal, rather there is more to this issue.
Best regards. ------------ Dwayne :shades: :mad: :sick: :confuse:
I took the Camry out for a drive to New York State yesterday, while making my rounds to customers. ------ The car performed very well, but I am not comfortable with the vehicle any longer. ----- Before this recall, I enjoyed this vehicle, but I am very disappointed with the way Toyota has handled this issue, and now I am VERY cautious when driving this vehicle. ----- It has taken all the fun of ownership out of the experience. ----- Prior to this recall I was ready to purchase a Toyota Venza. I really liked this vehicle, especially the comfort of the seats. NOW I have re-evaluated my position, and I will use the Camry till November, and then I will make my decision. I was going to keep the Camry, and trade one of my other vehicles for the Venza.
Best regards. ----------- Dwayne :sick: :confuse: :mad: :shades:
Also, you must remember all of the same hysteria when Audi 5000s were supposed to be suddenly accelerating out of control. That ended with the eventual conclusion that drivers were stepping on the gas pedal instead of the brake.
But if you honestly can't let go of this fear, then you will have to trade. As for sudden acceleration, it looks like GM or Honda would be your best bet from all the data I've seen. Most other manufacturers have also had problems with this same issue, to varying degrees. Ford is not far behind Toyota in this regard.
Thanks again
Best regards to all! ---------- Dwayne :shades: :confuse: :sick:
You should see what the Toyota haters have been posting on the "Toyota on the mend" forum. They're absolutely delirious that Toyota has been brought to its knees -- for no good reason, other than to promote the goodness of GM, which may not survive as a going concern. Well, at least no one's sticking up for Chrysler!
I have absolute confidence in my older Camrys and intend to keep them for a long, long time.
A witch hunt, pure and simple.
Remember Martha Stewart going to jail? Bullcrap!
Remember H1N1? What H1N1.......never happened!
Media hype.
I hesitate to call anybody 'pussywhipped'........but, please remember where your break pedal, gear shift and ignition switch are........and use them.......in THAT order.....if your Camry starts to, OMG .......run away from you!!
In the meantime, just calm down and think how many dozens of thousands of miles/kilometers you've put on your loving Camry without a care in the world until some bozo forgets he has a break pedal, gear shift and ignition switch.
Case closed. Move on........cautiously, if you must!
IMPROPER PROGRAMMING....... of the ABS ECU.
Today I took my V6 XLE Camry for a long ride on the open road. ---- I drove it on the Garden State Parkway, the New York State Thruway and the Palisade Interstate Parkway. ------ I accelerated hard from a dead stop, and I accelerated hard from 40 mph to 80 mph. The transmission shifted flawlessly, and the throttle operated without a problem. ----- When I "backed off" on the throttle, the "throttle" returned to idle position, and the Camry coasted for a period of time, and then started to slow down. ----- There were no signs of "throttle sticking" or "unintended acceleration."
NOTE:
I have never used the "Cruise Control" on this vehicle. ------- "IF" there is a problem with the Camry, (and it is of an electronic nature), I would look at the "Cruise Control" circuit.
I am confident after this drive of four hours that my Camry is problem free.
Best regards. ------------ Dwayne :shades:
My wife, unfortunately, has a 2007 v6 with 70k miles; I hope the mileage may indicate that the car will not all of a sudden develop acceleration problems. I have found that going back to church on sundays has been a enormous help to me. :lemon:
Is this issue a 4 cylinder Camry problem, or does it also exist in the V6 model? -------- Can the dealer hook up a "portable diagnostic computer," so that it can take a "real time picture" of the issue as it is occurring? ---------- Can YOU duplicate this condition for the dealer if a technician rides with you? ---- When you are pushing down on the accelerator, ---- are you hitting the floor? ---- When you release the accelerator, does the pedal return to the idle position (fully released)? ----- Does the engine accelerate immediately when you press on the accelerator or is there a delay?
Best regards. ----------- Dwayne :shades: :confuse:
Did Toyata finally have a solution the 2007 Camry V6 transmission hesitation problem?
By the way, I just got a letter about a problem specific to 2007 Camry V6: (not I4)
Limited Service Campaign (LSC) 90K
Certain 2007 Camry with V6 (2GR-FE) Engine
Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence (VVT-i) Oil Hose Replacement.
They will fix it for free. Offer expires Mar 31, 2013 (i.e. 3 years later)
I wish Toyota would install what I call a "Face Saver" and that is erasing any memory of having bought a Toyota in the first place!
This is a bit longer post, but the story is kind of long, so I applogize in advance.
I bought Camry 2008 with 99900 km last Nov. Coolant leak was detected and dealer replaced water pump under warranty. After one month and 1000 km, there was a leak again. But no warranty now. Dealer replaced it without charging. One more month and another 1000km, the leak is back. The dealer replaced the pump and did recall fix. Gas pedal shortening and computer upgrade where break overrides gas if pressed at the same time.
On the way home, after 15 minutes, engine light is ON, and coolant temperature needle is below "C". The car is shaking and very soon is stalled. Oil was driping under the car. Obviously, coolant was lost, engine overheated and head gasket was blown.
Dealer paid for towing, examined the car and replaced the engine with one that had 22000 km, and 90 days warranty. Until this point of time I was understanding and patient. Things happen, don't they. Today I picked up the car and this time after 20 minutes, the transmission started behaving funny. Coming to stop was harsh (jerky), starting was difficult as if the car started from third gear. It took lots of time to gain speed with sporadic engine "sprints" to 5000 rpm as if the car went to netral for a moment. Back to dealer and the first thing service manager told me was: "This has nothing to do with the engine replacement, but we will take a look."
At this moment the car is with them. They tested the car and found some "Internal error" code and will do additional tests with brand new solenoids hoping that will fix the problem. If that does not help, they will need to replace the transmission, but they will not cover the expense. They will give me a "good" deal on used transmission though. I asked the manager how he explained the fact that this happened after the engine was replaced, and he answered that it was "coincidence".
How likely is that? Is this just my bad luck?
My patience is gone. I have some doubts about their competency because they keep replacing parts until they can claim that the car was fixed.
I am oloking for some ideas about how to approach them when they tell me the "verdict".
Thanks for being patient and reading everything.
Perkan
Mike
I bought a camry 2009 certified car and the same problems. RPF shifts shuddently and the car jerks often when that happens. Did you get any fix for the problem. I already went to the dealer and they keep telling me there is nothing to fix. But its not smooth at all and I dont experience that in other cars. What should I do and how did you go about this problem
Thanks
It's a bit of an awkward arrangement and conflicts with the installation of many aftermarket speakers, especially if they have any size of magnet at all.....which all good speakers DO!
Be sure to explain to your stereo provider that you don't want speakers that can't be properly "seated" on the rear deck (i.e. with the trim gasket making a proper seal against the deck) otherwise you will lose much of the base response that should be produced by your upgraded speakers.
Mike