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I put the my money on 07 Outlander during my very first test drive. Why? This was how I make up my mind:
Test drives three new model crossover SUVs within one hour.
First, I test drove the Rav4, then Outlander followed by CRV. The 07 Outlander caught my heart with its appearance,handling and responsiveness. Here, we get the 2.4L engine petrol version same as the Japanese market which has two model: M and G grade. The M grade is USD58K and USD62K for the G grade. And guess what, the G grade,in term of specs and features and perks, it is no where near your XLS! No cruise control, no navigation system, no blue tooth for phone and the most important not a V6 engine.!!
So, price wise kind of a high side.
To be fair, it is indeed a nice car to have.
Geez, take your money and go to US to buy a car - you could get into a luxury SUV for that kind of money- BMW/MB/Audi/Volvo/Lexus/Acura/Infinity. You pick... :confuse:
@carkaki: Do you have a link for the pricing for the Singapore Outlander? I can't seem to find the pricing at Mitsu SG website.
(under new cars)
Cars in Singapore are one of the world most expensive to own. BMW X5 - USD180K, Audi Q7 USD200K , RAV4 57K and CRV 59K . So, I really envy you guys that can get cars on invoice price.
Not all, have you checked Lexus or Audi before you made your decision? All in this price range - yes. Rav4 is even worse (check review from any source), by your definition it looks 4X cheap (since for Outlander you repeated it three times). Many people (including me) think it actually looks good, and it is same quality as CRV, Santa Fe or CX7.
Now, all those issues with your new car. Our brand new (then) 2004 top of the line Accord had paint bubble on a door (door had to be re painted, so left alone), cracked leather on a driver seat(replaced seat), hanging head liner in the back (repaired), and bad heater switch (repaired). No problems since, and guess what, we still love it and will buy another one (maybe with better styling next time). So if you are really unhappy just trade it in and get yourself underpowered, overpriced, not so pretty but "H" signed CRV.
.... Plus, with potential for similar or bigger problems as per CRV forums ...
One way to increase the chances for less initial quality issues would be to wait for the second production year if you could afford it. Other than that it comes down to luck.
If I was considering buying one of these cars I would be very very cautious and wait until these issues are resolved.
There is no paranoia here on this board, there is incompetence from Mitubisishi to put this vehicle on the market with these types of problems.
Thanks for listening.
What I would suggest to new buyers is do your assignment. Take the vehicle for a test drive. These issues are easily identifiable during test drive. We have described it here for you to make an accurate evaluation of the new vehicle. So be a wise buyer, test your vehicle for these problems before buying it.
Again, this is personal opinion, so some people my find it not good enough for them.
It is still an "owner's pride, neighbour's envy" SUV.
GROUP 42A Body
Wind Noise From Outside Mirrors - 2007
Outlander. A wind noise (a light buzz) may
originate from the outside mirror area of the
2007 Outlander when driving between 30-40
mph. The noise may be more apparent in a
cross wind. To repair this condition, remove
the plastic cover under the mirror pivot point.
Apply adhesive backed foam or felt to the two
tabs, wrapping the foam/ felt around each tab,
then reinstall the cover. Verify the repair.
Again everything else about this SUV is great, but the wind noise because of a improper sealing is like having excessive salt for a delicious and great meal...I wonder why MITSU overlooked small things like proper sealing when they did everything else correct. I don't know how many more trips to dealer I have to make for this issue. :mad:
I always do my own changes and am just wondering if there are any tips that one could give or any problems one will encounter.
The oil filter is very small and very hard to get to...A special tool may be needed...
It seems you have to take off the phony skid plate to get real access to it....there is a half funnel device about 2" under the filter to direct the oil into a pan after you loosen the filter.....
It looks like it'll be messy... I'm still about 2 months away from a change..I hope someone that already did an oil change on the Outtie will post here to give us a few tips...
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/gasoline_diesel_report_expl.html
Next oil change is going to be at 4k km and after that every 5k. At which point, I might switch to a quality oil product like Pennzoil platinum or Castrol Syntec etc..
I have the cloth seats...Anybody have a FIX for this problem?
That is why I'm going to spring for a towing package shortly...The tow bar and ball should at least keep "me" from backing into a wall or something..and put a nice hole in some gals radiator... after they nail me in the butt.
Wear your seatbelts to disengage the alarm Why wouldn't you want a feature like that? I thought you're not suppose to drive without your seatbelts on? It's actually a safety feature. Same with DRLs, I dunno why people are complaining about DRLs. Mitsu has been rated low on safety features before, and they made every effort to make safer cars. I guess if you don't want certain safety features, you can always go to the dealer and have them disable whatever feature you want if that's possible.
I went to my dealership today. Had a good overall experience, was treated very nicely, the dealership had already ordered the parts. However , seems like the "clunking" noise that I thought was the front-end-knock issue , is "normal" ABS self check. I only have the issue when i start/restart the engine and back out making left/right turns (not on normal driving/turns etc).
The service manager gave me a printed Tech Talk monthly issued by Mitsubishi
It had the following description for my clunking sound
GROUP 35 Service Brakes : ABS Pump Noise (Update): 2006-07 Eclipse, 2007 Eclipse Spyder and Outlander : ABS System Conducts a self-check to ensure it is functioning properly the first time the vehicle reaches approx 2.5 mph. During the self check, a "clunking" noise will be heard from the right front of the engine compartment. The noise only occurs the first time the vehicle is driven after the engine is started. It will not reoccur until the engine is restarted. This noise is a normal operation of the ABS System. Do not attempt to repair this condition.
However, my dealership still replaced the bearings etc as they had already ordered the parts. The replacement did not make any difference in the clunk sound though."
I hope this would help.
Problem #1 Windnoise, which will be resolved by dealer. I, of course, was the first one to have this problem.
Please let us know in detail how was this resolved!
http://www.mitsubishiforum.com/m_116115/tm.htm
Later, when I trade this Outtie in, I'll just put the new "black originals" back in to give it that "well taken care of" look.
COST?......$0.00 .....
TIME?......35 MINUTES....
I dont know where it is hiding but want to know if a wix filter or Amsoil Eao filter has enough room in there. I have a feeling that the standard ones are too small. Besides, when I switch to Amsoil, I'd like to upgrade the filter as well..
I found the following that maybe of interest to you folks
Oil
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/xlm.aspx
Ea Filter
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/detail.aspx?ID=6904
Wix Filter
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51356
BTW, when I was down there, I was very surprised as to how rugged it is. Drive axle to the rear differential is robust.
The oil filter is right behind the radiator almost in the center of the whole engine. Parallel to the ground.
(A nice touch on Outies for a small stainless drain below the filter to allow the oil from filter to drain out away from engine.)
I get the filters (6 packs) from Mitsu's dealership where I bought my car, Nice folks. I did ask for the special oil filter ranch for exact fit but unfortunately they don't carry them.
To my surprise, my donated 88 Acura Integra's "new" Honda oil filter ranch fit perfectly. (Honda went through from the bigger size oil filter to new tiny size filter on me 2 years ago.)
I got mine special fitted oil filter socket from Acura parts department 2 years ago. If I remember correctly, it is around $18 or so. (Help yourself, bring a Outies filter to test it before you buy it.)
With the exact matching socket, 3/8 Ratchet, I got to work. (I am too lazy to remove the plastic cover -- even though it on the way... But I am small anyway )
Even with the exact tools, it is still very tight.
I have to say, took the first oil filter out is a b**ch :mad: . IMHO, Mitsu factory probably over tighten the filter a bit. The exact socket can't take the thing out, it only allow you to tighten it up with *proper* force. That's OK. Go back to my tool box, I took out my utilmate tool.(That one most Auto part shop sell you that you turn the thing it tighten more with the direction you go with the teeth at the end that *really* bite into the oil filter something puncher the filter). Once it is out, some oil will drip to the plastic cover that I was too lazy to take out. :P )
You can picture this since the filter is on the middle of engine block, I was under the car with my arm almost fully extend out to unscrew the oil filter. I could use another hand to hold a cup under the drip funnel--OK.,OK I am lazy.
After that everything is smooth sail. :shades:
HTH -Ming
That's said, with my luck, my wife just so happened to have our car the rear tired punctured which I had to put on a spare tire with a jack stand. :sick:
I did look up the menu and put a jack stand for the spare, (on the end of the book emergency section for replace the spare tire.) If you have 2 jack stands, you can lift it up there. Ditto location when Discount Tire company lift my car up to put in the new tire yesterday .
BTW, this is my first car with tire pressure sensor. I now know that when the tire first put in, that "flat tire" warning won't go away till 5 minutes after I had drove off the tire company parking lot.
Already made an appt with a dealer, but I was wondering if anybody might have an idea or point me in the right direction as to what I may attribute the problem to.