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If it's good enough for Mitsu Corp.....It's good enough for me....
100,000 mile warranty....
Oil's Slippery Slope: My Advice -- Stop Wasting It!
I saw a black pan and black drain bolt but not sure if its the right one as its sitting front right.
Either way, your battery shouldn't die on a new vehicle. If it doesn't hold a charge after you charge it up, then the dealer has to make it right.
Oui Ve!
Beware - there is a recall on 2005 Outlanders - on a cooling fan. Dealer replaced it.
Technology is there to help people but there needs to be some backup plan like cutting out automatically after an interval to preserve battery life. I can imagine if you parked in a noisy area, then the audio chime may not work.
In this scenario, IMO, there is no way for the vehicle's computer to tell if (1) you wanted the car on ACC (e.g. waiting for wife at parking lot listening to radio), or (2) you have left it on that position by accident. If I'm in scenario (1), I certainly do not want the computer to cut off the power while I'm listening to the radio. If it's scenario (2) then it would have been desirable for the car's computer to shut off the power. I guess they have not made the Outlander that intelligent yet.
This is a cool forum that I get tons of info about '07 Outlander. Thanks to all of the inputs, I almost made up my mind to go get it after I spent 2 days reading most of the posts about this model.
The only thing I am not too sure about is Mitsubishi's service in Canada. My friend who bought a Lancer in 2003 told me that he was really pissed up by Mitsu's service. I myself sent 2 emails to Mitsubishi Canada inquiring about the 2007 Outlander info, but never got any feedback, not even an electronically generated "response email". :mad:
I am a little concerned. Warranty is longer but it doesn't mean good. I also expect better service. Anyone can talk about the service you experience from Mitsu's service centre?
Thanks!
We only have 2 dealers here plus 1 in Quebec side. The one I went to test drive is a brand new one but the owner owns a few more dealerships of other brand names in the city. They can offer about $1800 discount. But their PDI (excluded from the delivery charge which is listed online) & admin fee add up to C$1000 which I think is unreasonable. Did you get any discount in Toronto?
I have a friend who works in Mitsu Japan, and highly recommended this SUV to me. (That`s the reason I started my research). He told me that this SUV had the ability to compete head-to-head with RAV4 in Japan. From last yearMitsu started new aggressive strategy and significant changes to get their share in NA market. They pay a lot of attention to the feedback and eager to make changes. So I hope this helps raise the level of their service and quality.
I have scoured the manual with no luck. I wa stold that it was in the passenger side interior.
Give it few more months and real deals could be had. Personally, I couldn't wait longer.
But shouldn't PDI be included in the destination delivery fee?
According to following article, it seems that it`s kind of expense from tuning up and maintaining your car by dealer.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/columnists/story.html?id=e99f95cc-323b-4753-- 9c61-b6f50db4f945&p=1
But to me, it just seems to be another nominal expense to charge on consumer to increase their profit.
So when people here said "paid $xxx above invoice", did they mean they paid MSRP price + Destination Delivery Fee + applicable taxes, then + $xxx on top?
I plan to show hand next month, and I am trying to see if I can benefit from the EPP program from my friend. But maybe I am not eligible for that program. :confuse:
Thanks!
My wife has her own business.She keeps Vehicle Purchase Agreements to prove to Revenue Canada what she paid for the vehicle so there is no problem with depreciation on her income tax. She has her form for her trade-in , a 2004 Saturn Ion, and it appears that the Vehicle Purchase Agreement form is identical. Possibly the government requires all new vehicle purchases to use same form. However Belleville Saturn charged her $225.00 in 2004 for administration fee and there was no PDI fee. They also added a vehicle theft( etched windows,sticker etc.)package under this section (Total Sale Price )was $199.00. So it appears that it is dealer's choice what to charge and whether you get them to drop it.The charges in this section (Total Sale Price) are freight,federal air conditioning tax,tax for fuel consumption and administration fee with another blank line which in which Mitsubishi put PDI and Saturn put the theft package. I only started reading this discussion three days ago so do not have any idea what this "invoice price" refers to. Could it be what manufacturer charges dealer for car? What is this EPP program you are referring to?
Obviously, the invoice price is thousands of dollars less than the MSRP.
When one says "paid $xxx above invoice" it means he/she paid:
Invoice+$XXX (dealer profit)+Freight+ Registration+Taxes.
Some people, myself included, include in the $XXX all the dealer fees, which are considered dealer profit, like Admin,PDI - in some cases this is together with Freight, but not in Mitsubishi's case, labor for accessories installation. etc.
I searched in this forum, looks it is about $2500 less than MSRP.
no5, "Mitsubishi Outlander: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #302, 15 Feb 2007 6:24 pm
archquark, thanks for sharing, EPP means Employee Purchase Program.
I actually think Mitsu put up better information in the following link.
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/owners/service.do
That split the Regular (every 7500) and Severe (every 3000)
"Quote from the above link"
Which Schedule Should You Follow?
Select the schedule for Severe Maintenance if most of your driving is done under one or more of the following conditions:
• 50% of driving is done in heavy city traffic during hot weather.
• Extensive idling and/or low speed operations (stop-and-go traffic).
• Extended use of brakes while driving (stop-and-go traffic).
• Repeated short trips with engine not fully warmed up, especially in freezing temperatures.
• Dusty, rough, muddy, sandy, or salt-spread roads.
• Vehicle is used for towing.
I choose to change on 5000-6000 is because our usage is somehow in between plus I sometime get busy. If I forget or get busy, I won't slip up to 7500 miles
I think we've been sold a 3k bill of goods in NA.
Any ideas?
In my case that's 7,500 miles for my Nissan and 5,000 for my Subaru, although I do tend to stretch the intervals a bit.
And if I really thought there was an issue with running oil that "long" in a passenger car, I'd spring for an analysis like the fleet operators do, instead of just throwing numbers around or wondering if the molecular tails in my crankcase all broke at 3,000 miles.
You may be interested in Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2 too, btw.
I trust the manufacturer and always drive them forever - we're on our 4th car since 1982 and not being a hobby oil changer has worked fine for me.
ymmv.
That's not very likely for platinum although rhodium will react with fused alkalis and palladium can dissolve in oxydizing acids. Of course, you know those reactions rates depend on concentration and temperature.
On the other hand, it's hard to argue against real world experience.
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I put it up on the ramps and looked around but can't find it anywhere.
Biscuit, do you mean the front of the engine, which would be the passenger fender, or front of the vehicle when you face it? Can you see it from underneath, or is there a flap or panel covering the oil filter. Thanks.
Thanks for the info (not too bad to get to after all!!!)
Are there any experienced oil changers out there on this model that can comment? Maybe prevent me from having one messy change. Thanks!
go back to post 98
lmchen, "Mitsubishi Outlander Maintenance and Repair" #98, 22 Mar 2007 1:09 am
That should help you. (I just bent the rubber a little bit to get in.)
That's said, I have to mention that I am on my own schedule.
Mitsu have outlander/other care on every other oil changes to replace the Filter. You need to oil change between 3000-7500 depending on the car usage (check Mitsu website - owner links.) -- That translate to 15000 miles to change the oil filter.
I changes the oils and oil filter as a pair out of a habbit on every 5000 to 6000 (Since I am down there, why do a half job?)
I also set my Navi reminder to 6000 just in case I am too busy around the time.
Don't overfill, less than 4 Qts and the stick is hard to read.
HTH