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http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
There have been more than 224 complaints filed under 6 powertrain categories. Honda will only be held accountable when the NHTSA forces a mandatory recall.
Consider contacting your State Senator as well:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/f_two_sections_with_teasers/states.htm-
Finally, consider contacting this legal group, ask them to expand their class action suit: http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-complaints/h- onda-odyssey-torque-converter-class-action-lawsuit-complaint/
2011 Odyssey Touring Elite, 6 months old, 14999 miles
"...we'll have the technicians look at the transmission as well. Over time, shifting has become rough, and occasionally upon acceleration between first and second gears, the transmission seems to be shuddering."
Indeed they do, after sitting all night in cold temps, the a/t fluid seems do have drained down and when it's put in reverse, the whole tranny slams together with a bang.
I now start the van, and after a few seconds slip it into neutral let it sit there for a few more seconds then put it in reverse....no lurch, thud or slam.
I am also careful on the 2 to 3rd shift not to be standing on the gas, I dump the a/t fluid every 2nd motor oil change and have added a Magnefine filter on the fluid return line.
Will any of this save me from the inevitable tranny failure...probably not, but I have done all I can to prolong it. :sick:
That's ludicrous you must work for Honda. That motor trend van only has 15k miles.
My neighbor beats their '04 Sienna into the ground and it never had a transmission issue after 120k miles.
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/ProblemCases/2011Page1
You should add your case there too.
My wife & I are careful drivers and service our Odyssey at all required intervals. Actually, we change the transmission fluid every 30k miles which is above the factory recommendation.
I think you are misinformed that only a few dozen people are having transmission problems due to poor driving habits. This is our 3rd Honda since 2003 with a bad transmission.
February Motor Trend is reporting hard shifting and torque converter judder at 15k miles. Is this another so called "driving habit problem"?
:confuse:
http://www.facebook.com/hondaodyssey
http://www.odysseytransmission.com//ProblemCases?msgId=910
It's broad stretches like this statement that lured many people into buying Hondas despite their long record back into the 90s of transmission failures.
I have had many cars to 150,000 and now to 190,000 on a 1998 Buick with NO transmission failures. They were all GMs. And if I had failure at 60-, 70-, 80K, and even earlier, I would have been upset just like these owners have been who post here.
Many relied on past reputation perpetuated. The best source is an old timer mechanic in his own shop that you patronize. Stop and ask him about various cars and brands you are thinking about buying, new or used. Better yet, take the potential purchase of a used car to him for an inspection. Money well spent. And if a trans on a used car does go out, he will direct you to the best replacement in terms of actually fixing the problem instead of putting in another bad transmission. Won't be a $6000 replacement.
Best thing the unhappy owners can do is spread the word among their friends about the longevity of the transmission problems.-- how the company did not redeign the problem trans and how the replacements were the same problematic units and the company put the same problematic trans in for years.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Honda certainly knows what the weak spots are in their units too, but as he says, the fixes are patented and to change out all the parts would be opening up the company to a billion dollars worth of lawsuits.
If Honda admitted to the issues and started bringing back the 100's of thousands of the Odys that went out the door with a/t's doomed to fail they would have to take a couple of years off to catch up.
I also think that the Honda Z1 a/t fluid they used was crap, and the company has now quietly changed over to a synthetic without much fan fare. This is after the dealerships claiming that the world would end 10 seconds after using anything else. HOnda doesn't even sell the Z1 anymore.
I bought a new 2003 Ody and paid $34,000 for it thinking, like everyone else, it was a bullet proof unit. Wish I had of Googled, "HOnda Odyssey transmisson Problems" back then.
I now change the a/t fluid using a synthetic every second motor oil change, have added a Magnefine inline filter to catch the clutch pack debris and liquid metal, don't drive it like a sports car, had the pathetic oil squirter recall installed, and know that in spite of all this it will still fail, soon.
If I am lucky enough to be in Utah when it does , I will get Larry to do his re-build using all the new patented aftermarket parts to replace the Honda crap. The engine will outlast the rest of the Van, but that doesn't help when it's hooked to a boat anchor transmission. :mad:
points out an important fact. Not every unit is going to fail early. Maintenance and usage also play a part in longevity.
I have a 2005 that just turned over 70K. We are considering replacing it next December (2012) when it should have ~ 78K on it, and a big part of the decision to do it then or keep it a couple more years (up to 100K or so) is whether I trust the tranny.
Now, a class action settlement where they extend the warranty on the trans to 10/100 or so would help sway the decision! Though my wife is also ready to move into something smaller, if I can get away without paying for it, all the better.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
drained , replaced fluid twice, no good so far.
live in dc area ,
van does not go in reverse unless you turn ignition off, then on, then drives in reverse like a charm. it will not shift over second gear no matter what, or even first gear. on take off , shudders and kicks like mule then drive normally. he mentioned the computer of car might be the vilon. but not sure. so, back to square one.
the van started acting up at 125k, and now at 145 still moving , but you dont want to be the guy driving behind me, used to slip and stall, then, now totaly difrnt symbtoms. is it the sellonieds??? anyone has any idea here? ???????????
Honda does not stand by their transmissions or work. A transmission should last longer. The company does not stand by their products.
I will not be buying an Odyssey. I would recommended that people buy a Toyota instead. My 1995 Corolla is still going strong.