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Ford, chevy, dodge, Toyota. No truck has a 0% defect rate.
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kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
Oh and I have 60k on my tundra now. Much of which was towing a race car and trailer that weighed over 10,000 lbs. My F150 ( brand new ) was terrifying to tow anything over 7k. After it broke down 3 times before 25k, I got rid of it. I loved that truck initially,,,, I planned to keep it forever. I had only owned Fords and this was the first NEW one I had ever owned. Every one of my Mustangs had over 200k on it
And for the ignorant person that talked about driving a forign car,,,, My Toyota is made in America. My F150 was made in Mexico. And yes i fully expect to see you in the unemployment line. I mean , I wont be in it,,, I ll be the guy waving at you as I drive by . Just look for the bad [non-permissible content removed] Tundra.
Read up on the reviews,,,,,, that always makes me laugh. I read reviews, but I DRIVE anything before i make an opinion on it. Well except for the F250 turbo diesel. My co worker has one. I kicked that things [non-permissible content removed] in 2 drag races. That new vehicle has been in the shop twice already for leaks and crap falling off of it.
Here is something to focus on, and this is a fact. Ford gives bonuses for HIGH PRODUCTION NUMBERS. Toyota gives bonuses on on lack of rejection
A good friend of mine still has his, just passed 65 thousand last I talked to him (5.7, DC, short bed) and it's been flawless except for a recall on the front suspension. Still not bad compared to the not 1, but 2 GMC Sierras that he had before the Yota.
The first Sierra was lemoned, the second was sold off to a coworker for a song...
Even funnier was he was a service manager for a GMC dealer in NH and every single problem that he had with his trucks could be fixed for cheap, in the shop and with parts at cost.
And yet he bought a Toyota... And then traded his wifes Suburban that got 8 mpg and had an addiction to Intermediate Steering shafts and fuel pumps on a Highlander. Then left the dealership. :shades:
I found this interesting concerning Tundras:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05/200003-tundra-owners-may-be-eligible-for-fr- ame-replacement.html
Seems Toyota has a problem with frames rusting to the point the truck is unsafe.
Harry
BTW I loved the posts about the Turdra. With the F-150 EcoBoost model being able to pull an 11,500 pound trailer, a V6 that can out pull the big V8's in the GM and Dodge, lookout, their sales will get even better. I had a 2001 F150, 44 sheets of drywall that would have put any other half ton PU bumper on the ground, hauled it like it was empty. I needed a bigger bed though along with room for 5, and out of all the trucks made, only Ford has one. None of the other trucks had a crew cab with an 8 foot bed, even in their heavy duty lines. I have had my F350 Dually powerstroke now for 9 years, and have not had any major problems with it, just the usually wear items.
Chevy and GMC are essentially the same thing but they are counted separately. If you combine them as one (which in reality they are, but have different names), then they beat the F-150 easily.
Dodge simply doesn't make as many trucks as Ford. Dodge could sell 100% of its inventory and not beat Ford because Chrysler (even before the economic disaster) is much smaller than Ford. They don't manufacture as much. I'm not sure percentage wise how much F-150s are sold per manufactured each year or for Dodge Ram, but to say Ford sells more and bragging about it is misleading and silly. It's like a closing pitcher for an MLB team that wins 100 games bragging about having more saves than a closer on a team that wins 40 games. It doesn't necessarily mean that 1st closer is better, but that he had way more chances to get saves than the other guy.
If you like politicians and their rhetoric, then you like the stat of the F-150 being best selling truck as meaning something. If you like actual reality and less BS, then you understand that that stat doesn't really mean much.
Does Ford actually break down the sales between the F150, F250 etc?
Anyway, for 2011, the F series has been outselling the Silverado and Sierra combined.
For July Ford sold 313,183 F-Series trucks. GM sold 215,906 Silverados and 80,194 Sierras.
Love my Ram, tho - the HEMI power is fantastic, it gets decent mileage, and is the looker of the bunch.
and a 2011?
Fact is, the '09 Ram is the first P/U I've had for about 30 years. I looked at late model used, dismissed the Ford due to lack of power, and couldn't afford the GM products which seem to have the best economy of the three. When Car & Driver magazine compared the full size trucks in '09 and named Ram the winner, that was the clincher for me.
Not in 2012...
Ford F-Series = 645,316
Chevy Silverado = 418,312
Ram Pickup = 293,363
GMC Sierra = 157,185
Silverado + Sierra = 575,497 -- well behind Ford.
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Who cares? All three trucks are virtually the same. Just as a Wendy's, McDonalds and Burger King burger are virtually the same. Five years from now, they will all have the same features, operating costs and dependability between them. The diff is in the badge.
I just did a search for new F150s at my local large Ford dealer's web site. 164 new F150s came up in inventory. 4 of them were priced at twenty-nine thousand and change. 160 of them were priced at OVER THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. For a 1/2 ton PICKUP TRUCK. That is INSANE, is what I think.