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Maybe the 'V is "overlooked" by someone who drives a Suburban or a Durango. But that's to be expected.
I don't scrape the windows - I just let it melt off because I don't drive it when it's cold.
RWD and light, so it's as bad in the winter as it is fun in the summer.
The vinyl top lasted 11 years; I just replaced it.
Get an older one so you don't feel bad.
-juice
When I say overlooked, I do mean overlooked. The Escape and Tracker/Vitara are the only small SUV's that could be named when I asked around this morning.
Then again, I am in the Midwest and Cavalier is number #1 selling small car. Not a lot of love for imports.
-juice
Then I suppose I shouldn't mention that you can get a cash refund for any unused portion of the extended warranty at any time, including buying a 2005 SE CR-V... oops, I mentioned it. Oh well...
LOL
Gave up a 911, wow, you must LOVE her! ;-)
-juice
Plus, had a little one... you know how that changes things...
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My 5 year old loves the Miata, though. There's no affordable 4 seat convertible that is sporting enough to replace it.
-juice
I'll spot an old early '90s Corolla with about a zillion miles on it and looks it... and I'll say: "See that car? That is the car you will get when you turn 16. No, no, not one LIKE that... That particular car right there, once it has another 50K miles on it."
Also, I look back fondly on that old 911.. I bet its aging gracefully......
regards,
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We've had a few threads like that here on Edmunds, and "bicycle" is what I usually suggest.
Or a motorcycle. Teach them to ride defensively (or else).
-juice
Hmmmmmmm.....something strange going on here.
-juice
The info. is still in head anyway:)
for 2005
Standard VSC
5 spd auto replace 4 spd auto
16" wheels standard
SE model added with leather interior, painted trim and unique color option
Pricing for the 4x4 SE $25K plus
EPA mpg 22/27 for 4WD automatic
-juice
Well, I wonder if this will be deleted too?
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http://www.hondanews.com/CatID2031?mid=2004091059755&mime=asc
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moparbad Sep 13, 2004 10:39am
FWIW, you might want to check into this thread.
archman1 "2005 Honda CR-V?" Jan 14, 2004 12:05am
To try and convince someone who wants a larger SUV that they should consider the CR-V (or any smaller SUV for that matter) is an admirable ambition, but not something I would take on. I equate it to trying to convince someone that they can get by in a studio apartment rather than the four bedroom house they desire.
As for the people you talk to not being aware that Honda makes a small SUV, not sure what to think. I assume they have eyes.
The CR-V is the number one small SUV in the Chicago market. Has been for several years. Imports of all brands are huge here. Chicago is the Midwest. Perhaps you are referring to other areas. 15 years ago I would have agreed with you to a point, but imports are now everywhere. Even Michigan.
I can't go a block without seeing this rather stylish (IMO) small SUV with the word "Honda" on the back in very big letters. I would think others see the same thing.
I can't explain why the people you speak with have "overlooked" Honda SUVs.
CR-V is not number #1 in Midwest and not in Chicago. Show me the data. Have you even seen the data? Escape is number #1.
And yes, people have eyes, however, what people see is not processed the same by all.
Steve, Host
Hmmm, check the interior specs, the CR-V compares pretty well with an Explorer (as long as you don't need the third seat. I think it actually has more rear leg room...
tidester, host
Stevedebi: I'm well aware of the CR-V's interior space. At one time it had more interior room than a JGC (or close, don't quote me), may still I'm not sure. I was making a point, which I guess I didn't do a very good job of. Most likely someone wanting a large SUV would "overlook" the CR-V like Moparbad said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18837-2004Sep13.ht- ml
jmolinsky link didn't work for me this morning and I saw the CNN link before venturing here to Edmunds. Guess this leaves 49 posts to go today! = : )
It's mentioned that when the government gets this involved, 60% – 80% of the time it leads to a recall.
Also, a Edmunds.com marketing rep is quoted, and that this has been a "hot" topic on internet chat rooms.
Bob
Those that want to participate with the 50 messages per day could do so.
Just a thought.
CR-V is a better vehicle than Escape, Ford has many more dealers.
steve_ "Honda CR-V fires" Sep 14, 2004 12:47pm
Steve, Host
On a different note:
As far as interior space is concerned, the current CR-V is rated for 106 cu.ft. including both the passenger space and the cargo area. The cut-off between small SUVs and mid-size happens to be 106 cu.ft. That's why Edmunds and some other publications have the CR-V filed under mid-size vehicles if you look them up by class.
What I noticed the other day is that Honda's media site publishes the interior volume at 103 cu.ft. for the 2005 model. We lost 3 cubes somewhere, or somebody's data is wrong. There's nothing in the list of changes that explains the difference.
There's your Cliff Clavin factoid for the day.
Some of the other SUVs you're talking about have payloads in the 1200 lb range, and 3-5 times the tow ratings.
In other words, the CR-V is medium-sized but light-duty.
Is it just me, or were all 3 of those articles nearly identical? Sheesh.
-juice
All three articles were virtually word for word. I printed them out for future info.
varmint "What makes a small SUV small?" Feb 8, 2004 2:38pm
The characteristics that keeps the CR-V from being mid-sized would be the engine, curb weight, and light-duty capacities. But there are others (Liberty) whose only claim to being small is their interior volume. It's essentially a cramped mid-size.
Does it really matter? There are many CR-V's in Chicagoland. My block has three. My work has at least five at any given moment in the parking lot. It's a hugely popular vehicle here as are all Hondas. Did I mention the three Odysseys in a row across the street?
Even the Forester has more capacity than the Pathfinder in CR's big box test. And the Subie doesn't even pretend to be mid-sized.
They're all growing now. Mid-sizers for the most part offer 3 row seating now, and full-sizers have gotten positively huge.
That's why I think there is a slot for smaller SUVs, maybe sub-compact. They might just be people movers, not necessarily SUVs. I'm thinking Fitt/Jazz, Cube, and competitors to the xB, except with AWD.
-juice
-juice
Basically compact crossovers.
Ironically the Forester is already there, sorta.
-juice
Subaru and Toyota are the only two who retained the "smallness" of their offerings. And that is likely due to the fact that they already had slightly larger vehicles in the fleet, which would have presented a conflict. A larger RAV would have stolen from the Highlander and a larger Forester from the Outback.