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Your MPG is low, but not so low that I'd expect a problem. If it stays consistently low or gets any worse, I'd take it in and see if something has gotten fouled (exhaust, plugs, etc...).
Owners tend to average between 22 and 25, but there are some that get less and other who get more. For example, I've been getting 26-29 mpg when driving long trips on the highway. Not everyone can be so lucky.
The 5 speeds (like mine) tend to do slightly better than the automatics. Also, cars in warmer climates tend to do better than those in the cold. Mine drops about 2 mpg during the cold Winter months.
Mileage, like fine wine, improves with age. Mine averages 24-25 with a 60/40 mix of highway/city driving. Pure highway is 27+.
I did at least see tether anchors in the hatch area for all 3 seat positions at the Philly Auto Show. Make sure the child seat comes with a tether kit. It looks like a seat belt sticking out the back, with a hook at the end of it.
-juice
The most realistic rumors regarding the '02 CR-V have come from the reps at Honda. We were told by one that the CR-V will receive the same equipment as the new Civic. Side airbags were one of the things that were noted. Dunno if the Civic has a latch system or not.
I guess they are going to be surprised when they get their first delivery.
Same question still stands, though - does anyone have a rollout date and color selection for the 2002's?
David
VTEC.net had a link which discussed some of the new colors in Honda's '02 lineup. I think that post references the Ody, but a few other cars are listed.
The only rollout date I've heard was from a Zone 6 Honda Rep who attended the Mid Atlantic CR-V meet. He said that it is planned for September 15th. Of course, this could be changed at any time.
I enjoy speculating about the '02 CR-V as much as anyone (possibly more), but the truth is we won't know anything until Honda lets it go to press. We can read rumors, look for spy pics, and make educated guesses all day long. But everything that we find might just be based on a fake model that Honda was driving around to throw people off.
varmit, don't be so sure...
http://www.batzi.com/
http://www.canineauto.com/
http://www.dogshoe.com/products.html
I wonder if Honda has such a back-log of the 2001 CRV that they have purposely clamped down on 2002 CRV information so that they can dispose of the current stock before the new one debuts?
This also makes me wonder if there are some major changes with the new CRV. If the changes were only slight people would probably still gladly buy a 2001. But if they're major changes, I'll bet a lot of people would wait two more months.
That happened to us nearly a decade ago with the Accord - we loved the '88 generation cars and the '92 generation, but no so much the '95 (I don't remember exactly when years changed). Well, had we know what that third generation was going to look like, we probably would have rushed out to buy on of the last second-generation cars...
Worse still is the current situation with the Odyssey, where the MSPR is a big question mark as well, and yet, given the supply problems, one has to put down a deposit to hold a car "at MSRP" without knowing what MSRP will turn out to be!
David
Subaru does product launches in Japan first, so we always get a preview of their new models.
Given Honda's emphasis on secrecy, there may be bigger changes than most people expect. If it were only evolutionary, they wouldn't be afraid to lose sales of the 2001s.
-juice
It's true that people like you and I are busy surfing the Internet looking for clues about the '02 CR-V and we might change our minds about the current model if we knew more about the '02. But we are not normal. I'd guess that as many as 75% of the people who bought a CR-V this month have no idea that a new one is coming around the corner.
Many other auto manufacturers release information early because they can't keep it hidden. For whatever reasons, Honda has set the standard for keeping things secret. If Ford could do the same, they probably would. So instead of having spies release their secrets, companies like Ford will go to press voluntarilly. This way they can get the credit for the news, and they can put their own spin on the changes. IOW, they make the best of a poor hand.
This last bit begs the questions, "how do companies like Ford get away with it?" Huge companies like Ford, Toyota, GM, DC, and such can afford to have old models sitting unsold on their lots. In comparison, Honda is a tiny car company. They don't have the money or the clout that the larger companies have. Each unsold car on the lot represents a significant problem for the car dealership. You and I could care less about the dealer's problems, but Honda can't do that. Do not forget that Honda makes money selling to dealerships. You and I do not buy cars from Honda.
As for big changes... Why would Honda mess with a design that was the class leader for so many years? While the media may put others like the Escape or new Rav4 at the top of their lists, Honda is still selling CR-Vs without a problem. If it weren't for the fact that Civic platform was just redesigned, Honda might've gotten away with waiting until 2003 for a new CR-V. (I'm not saying I would've bought one, but I'm sure it could have remained profitable.)
Subaru had trouble hiding the new WRX, but that's in part because the previous one, STi models in particular, had a fanatic cult following that did everything they could to get a sneak peak. So the cat came out of the bag early.
Ford stinks at it because the guy who runs BlueOvalNews.com has tons of friends on the inside. You can just about get a 5 year plan from his site, it's amazing.
The 2003 Forester is still a no-show. We'll see.
-juice
Sasquatch - Thanks for the links, but none of those are "seats", per se. I can't use the seat belt type restraints with my greyhounds because they don't sit. It's not physically impossible for a greyhound to sit, but they aren't built for it. When necessary, I've used a harness on each dog and fixed them to the tie downs in the cargo area. The best solution is to crate them, but alas the CR-V does not have the 90 cu.ft. cargo area necessary for two greyhound crates. :-)
Tomf11 - Beatfarmer says it all.
-juice
You clip your dog(s) to the middle of it. I would imagine you can rig that up somehow.
The other thing which occured to me is if you can find a coupler which is 2 female seat belt ends, and then clip them together and then clip the dog harnesses to that.
...OR get a climbing carabiner, put it through the hole in the 2 rear seat belts so they are now attached, and then clip the dog harnesses to THAT.
I plan on doing something similar between roll bars for the Wrangler. I want to leave enough room so the dog can lie down, stick head out either side, but not jump out into traffic or hang herself. I will probably put a ring in the middle, and attach to that.
You reminded me of another exception in pre-releasing information. Boutique-sized or niche manufacturers may release information early as they typically have a brand-dedicated following and have little to lose. Sometimes, but not often, this can apply to a single car (Nissan's upcoming Z for example).
Sasquatch - You're right. For me, self made rigging is the only way to go. I have a harness for each beast and clip one to a tie-down in the back of the cargo space The other dog gets hooked to the one at the front of the cargo area on the opposite side. I use a "leash" that is about 12-16" long. It's long enough that they can stand up and spin around (3 times) to make themselves comfortable, but not so long that they can get tangled up with one another.
what me worry?
all new stuffs are buggy anyways
Has anyone had a moon roof installed or heard risks associated with doing so?
P.. If I knew the 2002 would be offered I/ a moon roof I'd wait... but no such luck.
They do not use model numbers, but mine is a 15"x30" ASC tinted glass roof, manual pop-up style. It's $300 installed, more if they have to cut away any roof rails (which CR-Vs do not have) or if you want a deflector with yours.
They did power roofs for $900 and up.
The market is mature and so most problems have been worked out. They add bracing around the roof itself to compensate for any structural loss. Mine does not squeek or rattle, and I've been happy with the purchase.
-juice
I'm sure there have been a few "serious" problems with the CR that have been corrected over its current run. I was curious if anyone had a list of these issues and how they were resolved.
Thanks.
What utility trailer do you have? I was thinking about getting one myself.
Some have experienced a wobble/shudder in the drive train. Others have experienced pulling to the right.
Others still would hear a clunking from the front suspension.
When mine was new (99EX Auto) I had the first problem, but it went away after 5000 miles. It would occure in second gear while accellerating, but only if I didn't come to a stop first. I never experienced the pulling, which appeared to be a problem with bad alignments.
These are about as serious as I can recall. I read of one person who had their transmission replaced (under warranty) and another who had their rear diff replaced.
There was a recall a few years back for a wiring harness that needed to be rerouted to prevent wear (for some 98-99 models).
Varmit, can you fill in the gaps?
PTTR (Pull To The Right) - Some CR-Vs have a problem where they pull (not drift) to the right. With some it has been worse than others. A number of owners have solved this by getting their alignment set straight. A few have tried this, but the alighnment hasn't worked.
Whine/screech from the rear - This one is a service issue. If you don't change the dual pump fluid used in the rear dif (RT4WD only) it can wear out. It's much like changing the oil in your engine. Failure to do this results in a whine or groan-like sound from the rear of the car when taking sharp turns (parallel parking, 3 point turns, etc..)
Shudder/vibration at 2500 rpms - This one isn't very common, but it's been reported a few times. Owners have found a vibration from the drivetrain. It happens at about 2,500 rpms when accelerating hard. Well... trying to accelerate hard anyway. :-)
I forgot about the clunking suspension. There's a TSB out for that one. I don't think it's been a problem for newer models, but it may crop up in a used car.
There was also a recent concern over some poorly manufactured bolts. A recall was put into effect for Civics, CR-Vs, and other Civic-based vehicles in Japan. They were still looking into whether or not any were shipped to North America last time I read anything about it.
We're in the beginning stages of planning a meet in Cooperstown, NY. Most likely it'll be in September, but we haven't nailed down a date (as far as I know). Perhaps we'll have a birthday party for the '02 CR-V. ;-) We already have an OEM skidplate donated as a door prize. I'm sure more will follow. It'd be great if you could make that one.
Elight50
Here's the wiring harness recall:
http://www.ptcruiserusa.com/hondasuv/crvix/underhood/recall_electrical.htm
This is the proper alignment for a CR-V:
http://www.ptcruiserusa.com/hondasuv/crvix/underhood/alignment/alignment.htm
This is the TSB on the clunking suspension:
http://www.ptcruiserusa.com/hondasuv/crvix/underhood/tsb/tsb_frontsusp_98050.htm
Here's another artist's rendering of the '02 CR-V. It looks an awful lot like the one we saw earlier in that Japanese magazine. Sorry, I can't post them side by side. The other was linked through Photopoint and is no longer available.
But the headlights are nicely done.
The local dealer here was not willing to sell for less than $20,300 for CRV-EX Automatic.
1) Squeak while making sharp turns...I just had my rear diff fluid replaced and this took care of the squeak.
2) Occasionally my drivers seat will release backwards(with some pressure). I just had it into the dealer to have this look at and they could not find anything. I looked at the NTSB site and it looked like there were a few complaints about this but only for the 1997. Has anyone else experience this? This is really my biggest concern since the seat hit my sons legs last time this happened.
3) Just in the last month, my drivers' window has been giving me problems. Have not had this into the dealer yet...again, has anyone had problems with this?
Really, that is all the problems I have had which I don't think is too bad with over 50,000 miles. You can't say thay about many cars! I can't wait to see what the 2002 looks like...I am looking at replacing my in a couple of years.