2001 - 2006 Honda CR-Vs

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  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    If you don't need to carry big bulky items and don't care for the higher seating position and/or higher ground clearance, then the Accord is the better value HANDS DOWN. You get more features, a more upscale interior, and a more comfy, quieter ride. And all at a lower price! Of course, the CR-V's RTAWD may have an advantage in winter conditions, but even that may be marginal. I think the Accord's FWD with traction control and a good set of tires wouldn't be too far behind.
  • thekingtheking Member Posts: 107
    Land Rover has very few dealers,English heritage(I once owned an MG and it leaked all its fluids all the time) and there have been 'teething problems'. Do not buy LandRover if you do not want to be 'intimate' with your service department.
  • jjc7jjc7 Member Posts: 3
    I'm getting ready to buy a 2002 CR-V and am looking for a bike rack to hold 3 bikes. I assume I need to look for one that goes onto a trailer hitch. From the models I've found I can't tell if they will work with the spare tire on the CR-V. Does anyone have knowledge of a bike rack model that will hold 3 bikes and fit on the back of the CR-V? Thanks.
  • rockycowrockycow Member Posts: 114
    Since you can run into foul weather most any time in the rockies, make sure you have good M+S tires. Driving on marginal tires in the rockies is very risky.
    rockycow (Denver)
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    I don't think a bike rack will work mounted on the hitch.Instead you can get one that mounts on the spare tire.It uses the bolts that hold the
    wheel.That brings up an interresting question. Will the spare tire fit in the space under the
    rear floor?If so someone could invent a bike rack
    to go where the tire would go normally.
  • jfigueroa1jfigueroa1 Member Posts: 209
    The freelander in going to be more $$ and for real what you are buying is a ford escape with a few add on, plus land rover vehicles do not hold their value. But in my opinion paying 7k more for a ford with a different tag it is hard to swallow.
    I am waiting for my Vlx "should be in in about a week" and it is a very practical not too big not too small good mpg specially now that the fuel seen to go up.
  • sluglineslugline Member Posts: 391
    Hitch-mount and spare-mount are both feasible options on the CR-V. Swagman and Allen are both examples of 3-bike spare-mounts; Saris makes a hitch-mount that will accomodate the spare tire. (Remember that the spare tire doesn't protrude very far beyond the rear of the bumper anyway.)

    My suggestion: Get advice from a bike or sporting goods store where the staff knows what they are doing. You might also want to check the websites of REI, Thule, Yakima, etc.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Freelander has been out in Europe for several years (1997 IIRC?), so remember it's not new and shouldn't have the typical new-car issues. It's completely unrelated to the Ford Escape, in fact it was developed before Ford even owned Land Rover.

    Ironically it was Honda that saw the Freelander prototype and got inspiration to built the 1st generation CR-V. Remember they used to have a partnership.

    Having said that, I was not impressed with the Freelander's interior. Space is used efficiently, but the materials didn't seem any better for all the extra cash you spend.

    I like the monotone look, so the Open Air looks best, but I'm a big fan of the teflon-like coating on the lower cladding. So yes, a completely flat-black model would be hilarious. Maybe using plastic panels a la Saturn, minus the paint?

    Jetta or CR-V? I wouldn't buy diesel, because many stations near me don't even offer it, and the ones that do charge a lot more. But the Jetta has a very upscale interior, and should handle sportier. I'd strongly suggest sampling the 1.8T though. Fuel costs are only a small fraction of your overall running costs, and that engine is much more fun.

    -juice
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Punkintoze - When you take a sharp turn in a CR-V, the AWD will start to activate. if the dual pump fluid has worn out, you will hear a "whine", "grind", "screech", or even a "high-pitched hum". I've seen it described a number of ways. This is what Andil1 remarked on. However, you should not hear a "clunking" noise.

    If you are indeed hearing a clunk, the previous owner may have ignored the sounds described above and not had the fluid changed. If the fluid was not changed, the car's RT4WD system may have become damaged. We can't know for certain. I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy this car. Just make sure that the dealer takes care of the problem properly.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Drain the rear diffy and then check the drain plug. Usually they are magnetic, and if you see metal shavings on it, it's toast.

    If not, and it's quiet once you fill it up, you're likely fine.

    -juice
  • artdechoartdecho Member Posts: 337
    Click on this link and then scroll down to Honda and click on Open Air to see more pix (including front & back shots).

    http://www.lequotidienauto.com/mag/020304/geneve/accueil.asp

    While the body work is nice, isn't it amazing what a decent set of wheels & tires do for the new CR-V?!
    Oh, and move the handle on the rear door to under the "H" and make it a swing up hatch......now that's my perfect CR-V.
  • mam9mam9 Member Posts: 31
    I've had that happen 3 or 4 times already, but there's a corresponding noise when I first turn the key. It's sort of between a buzz and a sizzle, not very loud. You almost wouldn't notice it and just think you didn't turn the key far enough. Don't know whether to be worried but will definitely ask at the first oil change. Hope it's not a bad starter. That won't bode well for quality overall.

    Like yours, it always starts perfectly the second time I turn the key.
  • subzero206subzero206 Member Posts: 111
    finally we get to see the back, its so fresh, so clean, so WOW! love the clear tails too even though they'd be illegal. come on honda send that V to us!
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    Was wondering if we could have a poll on how many have kept the Bridgestone tires, how many have swapped out to another brand and if so, what brand?
    And, what problems besides access to the radio controls has anyone found with the gear shift on the dash?
    Thanks.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Did you notice the turn signals on the side mirrors, a la Mercedes, on the Open Air?

    subzero- I'm not a fan of clear taillights, either, but they do look very well on the Open Air.

    I bet if they increased power a bit, the Open Air can probably sell for 25K ($3,000 more than EX)...or more.
  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    After 30 second thinking, I am buying the CR-V over Freelander et all. Next consideration is to upgrade tires & wheels.Any advise on best tires without sacrificing noise and handling. Also, I hear that going to 16" or 17" alloys can create other problems such as speedo and well rubbing. Who has changed these with success and what to avoid?
  • susanlmsusanlm Member Posts: 15
    Wow!! I want one!! What a great looking car, even from the back.

    Even though my intellect likes the black cladding for its durability and ruggedness, my fanciful side loves the clean, lean lines of the all-one-color body of the Open Air. I especially love that roof! Please, oh please tell me this is not just a dream!!

    Susan
  • susanlmsusanlm Member Posts: 15
    mam9...Yes, that's it! I just didn't know how to describe that noise when I first turn the key. Buzzing or quiet sizzle is a good way to describe it. It happened to me again this morning except this time it was worst than usual. I hadn't used the CR-V since Saturday evening around 8:00pm and when I tried to start it this morning around 8:45 AM on Monday, I had to crank it twice before it turned over on the third time. That was the first time it has to be cranked more than twice. And the noise was much more pronounced this morning.

    I wonder if parking on a slant has anything to do with it? Every time I notice this happening, I have been parked with the nose at a slight downward slant. This morning, I was in a parking space which has a good 25 to 35 degree slant with the nose facing downward.

    I'm almost due for my first oil change so I am going to be sure to mention it if it continues.

    Susan
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/031102dnmethitandrun.18e932.html


    Hard to believe

    "Mallard, 25, told police she went into the garage and apologized to the victim several times..."

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Jeff: check with the rim shops, because you have to get the right offset, lug pattern and number, and a matched tire/rim size. 215/60R16 will fit, but I get 225/60R16 would as well, or go 17" if you really want to go nuts! :-)

    Check out tires.com, I got a set of MB Motoring MB6 16"x7" for just $75 a pop. They were being discontinued so I got a deep discount. They run specials all the time, so keep checking and call to ask about them. Mine were delivered with tires for $643, and that includes everything, even wheel locks.

    Check out TireRack.com too, though I didn't find prices even close there.

    -juice
  • samstrsamstr Member Posts: 13
    I've also had the problem of the V not starting after the key is turned. It has happened to me approx 4-6 times and always starts on the second time. However, I have't noticed any strange noises prior to turning the key.

    I've had the car now since Jan 12 and it hasn't happened to me for about a month now. I will ask the dealer on my first service. If it happens again I will go in immediately.

    If anybody has any ideas why this is happening please post. Also, please keep the post updated with any new information regarding this issue.

    Thanks. I'm crossing my fingers that it doesn't happen again.
  • scnamescname Member Posts: 296
    It hasn't happened to me. Maybe you have a cold tight engine ? I'd say let it break in a while longer.
  • bhoughtonbhoughton Member Posts: 10
    Hi all,

    Been lurking for a few weeks, but was intrigued by the starting problem. I think that the CR-V has an anti-theft immobiliser system. Just a wild guess, but I wonder if the ignition switch is failing to recognize the transponder in the key on the first try. (This has been a common and serious issue with the new Mercedes C Class.) If so the "buzz" or "sizzle" could be the normal sound of the electric fuel pump that would kick in with the starter motor. Without the sound of the starter engaging, the fuel pump sound would be the only noise present. (?)
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    doesn't the owner's manual in fact state that you should avoid hanging anything metallic with your key fob would may interfere with the transponder/immobilizer? Perhaps that's the reason for people experiencing starting problems?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    ...others have even suggested not having a second transponder keys for another car on the same ring.

    The receiver may get confused.
  • timz58timz58 Member Posts: 44
    MPGMAN:
    My wife and I are fortunate to own both vehicles, a 99 EX Accord and a 02 CRV EX. The old Tina Turner tune, "Different Strokes for Different Folks" pretty well sums it up. We have been very satisfied with our Accord, nothing but regular maintenance for 80K miles and it is a great highway car although a little noisy. The 4 cylinder engine delivers a consistent 30 - 32 MPG if driven in the 75 MPH range. Running all day at 85 and 90 on uncrowded interstates will produce about 27 - 28 but the car is stable and comfortable at that speed. The CRV with 1700 miles is getting about 24 MPG. Most of this is highway travel at 70 - 75. I would be hard put to make a choice between these two excellent cars and am glad we have access to both of them depending on the daily travel requirements. The Accord (Primary Driver is my wife) is driven about 100 miles a day 3 days a week and will probably be sold at about 90K to my daughter who will more likely than not put another 100K on it. The Vee was bought to tow behind a motor home because of the "flat tow" capability and the 3300lb curb weight. It provides a great deal of versatility and confidence as a way to get around in inclement weather. It seats four comfortably with four golf bags behind the seats..............what else do you need? To increase the utility factor we will purchase a light weight utility trailer to haul the nasty stuff (garden manure, lumber and other Home Depot necessities). We have changed tires on both cars when new. The Accord came with Michelin X4 mud and snows that created a howling and rumble at highway speeds. We went to a Michelin X1 and those became extremely noisy after about 70K. Present tires are Les Schwab Z800 - 205/60-15s (a premium tire) and the noise level is much more tolerable. The Vee came with the dreaded Bridgestones...........worthless rinds that made conversation impossible at freeway speeds. These have been replaced with a Superior Tire house brand tire (Eldorado) in an all weather 215/65-15 with 28 psi air pressure. Much quieter and better ride. Car choice is up to you. I don't think you will go wrong with either one of them.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Those rims look great, but the low profile tires make it look absurd. I couldn't see how bad it was until I saw the latest pics.

    I like the rear bumper, but the front one doesn't thrill me. I'd rather have seen the stock bumper with the same paint job. I'm not a fan of the clear lenses, but otherwise the back end looks good.

    You folks are kidding yourselves if you think that thing would A) pass an impact safety test, and B) cost less than $27K. It's a great idea for a concept and I hate to be a buzz-kill, but it's obviously just a concept.
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    I am getting 19mpg in my normal drive to work
    route.My old Explorer got 15 mpg on the same
    route.I was expecting better results since I gave up 50 hp.I have less than 500 miles on my V.What are you getting?
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    2002 LX, 26 psi tires...

    When it is warm on trips averaging 55 to 65 I have gotten 29 to 30 mpg!

    Now it is below freezing a lot (worse case scenario) I am getting between 23 and 25 mpg. A couple times I got 21 or 22 but that is probably due to letting my crv idle for twenty minutes in the morning on super cold days! That way I have a nice warm crv to get into on my way to work.
  • jfigueroa1jfigueroa1 Member Posts: 209
    At 175 in. long atop a 101-in. wheelbase, the Freelander covers virtually the same footprint as the Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute. It's the first Land Rover model to employ a robust unibody instead of the traditional trucklike ladder frame. An all-new 2.5L/175-hp DOHC V-6 is backed by a five-speed Steptronic automatic transmission. All U.S.-spec Freelanders feature all-wheel drive; no low-range transfer case or 2WD models will be offered; but Hill Descent Control, traction control, and all-terrain ABS are standard offerings. The Freelander's trump card is its price, which should start just below $26,000, with fully loaded, leather-lined models coming in at roughly $30,000Ñhandily putting Land Rover into the higher-volume lower-priced SUV segment where it's never before been able to play.
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    What material is used on the seats in 2002 - I know part of it is cloth, but I've heard some of it is leather or vinyl. Which is it?
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    vinyl
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Ssssh, quiet varmint, go away! ;-)

    $25k with the huge glass roof and 200hp, please.

    I'm not a fan of the vinyl/cloth seats. It should be one or the other, IMO.

    -juice
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    looks cheap. The previous generation's all-cloth was much more upscale looking, IMO. (Even the quality of the cloth was better in the old one, I thought)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I agree. The black plastic on the dash also doesn't look as good as the old stuff. It's too shiny, and the texture looks artificial.

    Minor nit picks, though, except the vinyl.

    -juice
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    Went there to see what other tires could be used on '02 EX.
    Did not list Michelin LTX or Yokohama Geolandar H/T for cr-v. But these two tires are rated high by the different rating/review sites. What other tires would be recommened with good handling and low noise levels?
  • moonkatmoonkat Member Posts: 265
    Yokohama Aegis LS4 - surprisingly quiet (for a blocky tread), comfortable ride, excellent in wet, good handling (tracking and cornering), good snow traction, and inexpensive. Better overall than the Michellin X-one pluses they replaced on awd van at half the price.
  • fasteddie9fasteddie9 Member Posts: 63
    look here http://www.tirerack.com/tires/yokohama/yokohama.htm
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    would this tire be good on the '02 cr-v?

    tirerack has this tire listed under passenger tires when you look under survey results not suv tires but when search by vehicle this tire shows up for cr-v.

    The Michelin LTX, Michelin Cross Terrain SUV and Yokohama Geolandar H/T (which all appear high on the survey list) don't appear to come in 205/70-15.
    I was limiting myself to Michelin and Yokohama brands but if there are others just as good.
  • beenyoungbeenyoung Member Posts: 2
    I'm thinking to buy a CR-V EX auto. So, is there anyone can tell me what did you pay for it(including tax and destination charge).

    Thanks.
  • moonkatmoonkat Member Posts: 265
    muckyduck:
    Tirerack recommended this tire for my "light truck application", a 4,000 lb awd minivan. I got the 215/65R15. My concern was that the tire satisfy the "load rating" for my vehicle which it does.

    With all the complaints I have read about the OEM Bridgestone "all terrain" type tires, owners looking for good all around tires "should" be looking at "passenger car" tires. I believe they will be much better served by good all-season tires (standard, touring or grand touring) unless they plan to go mudding.

    The LS4 tread pattern is much blockier than the photo indicates (and still surprisingly quiet), and I suspect it would be a decent off-road tire (meaning dirt, gravel, not Rubicon trail). I tested it out on the snow covered slopes of my side yard...I'm convinced.
    By the way the vehicle is a GC AWD with similar 4 wheel drive to a CRV.

    I'm dreaming of an X-box (CRV paltform - Model X), and the LS4s would be my first choice for the X-box if the original eqpt tires were Bridgestones all terrains. Maybe some 215/65R15 LS4s, or Bridgestone Turanza Revos in 225/60R15s
  • ssoto1ssoto1 Member Posts: 66
    I'm waiting for my 2002 ex auto to come in,I went to bay ridge honda in brooklyn sales man was Frank paid 22040 with dest.charge and I got the cargo cover for 1/2 price $112.plus tax @8.25% came out to $23,979.54 DMV was $120
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    I am installing the foglights tomorrow, on my 2002 crv autmatic. Has anyone tried to do this?

    Anyways, when do you adjust the foglights? Can you adjust them after the bumper is put back onto the crv?

    Any tips on how to remove the panels in the car. It feels like you are going to break the clips when you pull the panels out. Do you just pull on the panel, and the clips undo themselves? I assume, yes.

    Thanks...
    daveghh
  • mdmomamdmoma Member Posts: 8
    I changed out the Bridgestone tires for Yokohama Avid Touring on my 02CRV and my 00 Odyssey. Very pleased with the results, especially for the price.
    I fully agree with the tirerack survey which gave the tires very high marks in all catagories.
    We can now have a normal conversation at 75mph, wet traction is excellant.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    LEV generally means it meets the emission requirements for that vehicle in its vehicle categorie (ie. compact cars, large trucks, etc...)

    The 2002 crv meets LEV standards for subcompact cars! That is what the II in LEV II stands for! On top of that it is the cleanest SUV out there, beating all the SUV's (except for the prototype ones that we can't really get our hands on).

    Being this green while driving around such a peppy and roomy car makes me pretty damn happy!

    Rumors of a Hybrid crv? Have you heard them? I have...
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    Is the 205/70-15 tire or 215/65-15 tire better for the 2002 cr-v? Will there be rubbing with the non-standard size? Will the spare tire cover fit the 215/65-15?
  • jfigueroa1jfigueroa1 Member Posts: 209
    why the carpet? it look too thin and cheap. I wander why honda did not use the same carpet material as the civic or accord I was looking at it and it is very thin and not to soft. After all the crv is not a cheap poke man look alike toy.
  • sluglineslugline Member Posts: 391
    For those who want improvements in ride and noise level, yet still want to retain advantages offered by a truck tire, this model deserves to be on your short list to consider.

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    The H/Ls even improved my CR-V's steering response and ability to track straight. They were highly rated on Consumer Reports' most recent test of SUV tires and on the Tire Rack customer survey. I chose them upon the recommendation of members of the CR-V Information Exchange. I must emphasize that these are definitely NOT the same as the Bridgestones installed at the factory.
  • artdechoartdecho Member Posts: 337
    What size are your H/L's? Did you stick with the stock size (205/70-15) or go with 215/65-15's?
    Anybody have any problems fitting 225/60/15's?
    Rubbing/clearance issues?
  • suvshopper4suvshopper4 Member Posts: 1,110
    daveghh: "The 2002 crv meets LEV standards for subcompact cars! That is what the II in LEV II stands for! On top of that it is the cleanest SUV out there, beating all the SUV's (except for the prototype ones that we can't really get our hands on)."

    What are you basing this "cleanest SUV" claim on?

    Thanks.
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