2001 - 2006 Honda CR-Vs

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  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    I wonder if Europe has a larger number of car to pedestrian accidents than we have here.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    The Canadian EX only comes with the keyless entry. For an alarm, you'd have to buy a dealer-installed unit. I think that's also true for the US version, is it not?
  • davisdogdavisdog Member Posts: 99
    The US EX comes with the Keyless entry and the Immobilizer Key system (the key's have a chip in them and the car will not start if it doesnt sense the correct chip on the key (or doesnt sense the chip at all)). There is no Alarm system (it's available as a DIO or aftermarket if you think you need it)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    My parents are getting a "Touring Edition" upgrade from the dealer on their 2002 LX. It adds a tonneau cover, keyless entry, and a security system, all from Honda.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Well, that's positive enough. One cautionary note on interpreting the results. The UK CR-V comes fitted with the 2.0L version of the i-VTEC engine and therefore has differences under the hood. Dunno if they would be enough to change the test results, but I would wait to see how the Aussie CR-V (with the 2.4L) does in their testing.

    Robmarch - I dunno about Europe, but pedestrian safety is very important in Japan. The crowded streets of the major cities are very dangerous for those on foot. Americans proably won't care until Dateline and CR get tired of scaring the public with rollover stories and move on to this next. =)
  • maximxmaximx Member Posts: 9
    does anyone have the roofrack crossbars? Is there any wind from these (sunroof open/closed). Are they really $500 canadian? does anyone else make them that fit the space in the existing rales?
  • uptonjohnuptonjohn Member Posts: 5
    Maximx: I'm not sure of the conversion rate but yes, the two crossbars from Honda go for about $350 US. You can purchase the same factory crossbars from a number of online places. I think they go for a little under $200 US. I just installed Thule cross bars on my 2002 CRV. Although they do not have the nice clean finish that you'll get from the factory bars, they are much more versatile. You can add almost limitless accessories to them. The other drawback, other than the aesthetics, is they make a lot of wind noise. So much so, that with the sunroof in the vent position, the wind noise is literally deafening. Because I enjoy the sunroof a lot, I took the crossbars off until I'm going to use them. They just unlock from their base that you attach to the roof. That leaves the bases on the roof, which aesthetically isn't all that pretty, but its not bad. Installation is SIMPLE. I took me twenty minutes to install mine. As for wind noise from the factory crossbars, I know some people have had issues but have had the noise remedied from the dealer. Hope this helps.
  • wdpittwdpitt Member Posts: 2
    I have been doing so much research on the net for a new car. I am only considering SUVs. I made the mistake of falling in love with the Highlander, but it is out of my price range. I have a Chevy Blazer which is great, but it is time for something new. I never thought I would consider a mini-ute, but price is driving me in that direction. I haven't driven the CR-V yet, but am strongly considering it based on research and the boards. Everyone seems to really like them and they have excellent crash test results. However, I am having a hard time giving up my leather power seats. Any ideas if these will be options in MY03, or any aftermarket ideas? The Rav4 has leather as an option. One last silly question, what is the difference between a moon roof and a sun roof?

    Thanks for your help!
  • sfsmithsfsmith Member Posts: 20
    I think I read a message or two in this discussion list about being able to track an 'ordered' CRV if you had the VIN number. I've ordered a 2002 EX 5speed and was interested if tracking is possible.
    TIA
    Steve
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    The foglights weren't too difficult to install if you like to tinker and if you are willing to put 4 to 8 hours into it. It took me close to 8 hours, it was fun to do it myself, plus I saved tons of money.

    Pulling the dash out is really difficult, after you unscrew the tap screws you have to pull really hard and you may brake one of the snaps like I did. Someone I talked to didn't break any of the snaps so my case may be unique. And luckily the snap I broke isn't a real significant one.

    When you connect the harness under the stereo I had a lot of trouble getting the harnes to reach the connector, so I had to break the connector off of the vehicle frame so my harness could reach it.

    When you install the rubber gaurd where the foglights go, make sure they are facing the right way. I almost made that mistake.

    If you are going to go through with the installation I can give you more details and I will spend more time describing my expereience.
  • wyorebwyoreb Member Posts: 45
    to answer your question, i have an lx automatic.

    i was shocked to get over 27 mpg after a month and 1K miles. i thought there would be some kind of break-in period with mileage on the lower end of the epa estimates.

    i am not an aggressive driver, generally drive the speed limit and avoid hard braking/accelerating. live in n. colorado, so have the advantage of thin air and low humidity, but have also heard that engines are not as efficient at altitude.
  • subzero206subzero206 Member Posts: 111
    get aftermarket leather, it is much better than anything honda has to offer. you'll have to live without the power seats though. a moon roof is a glass roof you can see through (look at the moon). a sun roof is a solid piece of metal no glass, u cannot see through it.
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    A sunroof usually is metal and is found in
    older german cars.Much more desirable is the glass
    sliding type which is a moonroof.When it is open
    it is a sunroof but when it is closed with the cover slid back it is a moonroof.It gives an airy
    feel to the cabin without the noise.That and the 6 disc changer was the clincher to get the EX
    instead of the LX.As far as leather goes I had it in my last car and the hot sun made it very
    uncomfortable when first getting in after work.So
    I don't miss it.Power seats I don't miss either
    because I am the only one that drives my V so it is always set right.It could use a lumbar support
    though.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    WDpit - You may find that the current mini-utes are almost the same size as the mid-size vehicles of the 90's.

    A word of caution with aftermarket leather. It's a good idea, but make sure that it works with the side airbags (if you get those).
  • sandresandre Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2001 CRV that I want to change the transmission fluid on and the rear differential oil. The owners manual says to only use honda oil, Do I have to or can I use a good quality dexron type? I was also wondering about using a synthetic dexron ATF? I have use synthetic in the past on a Grand Cherokee and it helped my gas mileage. Any information I can get would help.
  • bascottbascott Member Posts: 27
    Just thought I would post my results. You all had me curious. I have a 2002 EX automatic and do mostly highway driving (65-75 mph). I have 2200 miles on the car. My last tank I got 26 mpg and that was using AC.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    MPG is very dependent on driving style. Highway driving at 65-75 mph is perfect for getting the highway mpg rating. As the speed increases above that, the drag of the car becomes more of a factor, and milage decreases. I haven't checked my mileage yet, but I monitored this tank to see what it is.

    sandre - you might try sending an email to honda to ask them which fluids other than their fluid would be acceptable. Or, ask them what specifications the fluid must have, and find one that matches. Good luck.
  • sluglineslugline Member Posts: 391
    If you have a certain brand of synthetic ATF in mind, contact 'em and see if they will recommend their product for use in your Honda. It couldn't hurt to ask. Unfortunately, the specs for Honda's ATF and rear-differential fluid are not open or otherwise well known, therefore no other company to my knowledge has made any serious attempts to bring "clones" of these fluids to market.
  • cgphil1cgphil1 Member Posts: 29
    Hi Varmint, can you elaborate on the reference to the UK CRV in post 8059. Does this mean that the CRV manufactured at the Swindon, England plant and destined for the East coast USA is 2.0L vs the 2.4L in those manufactured in Japan, or are the 2.0L built specifically for the European market.
    Thanks,
    Clive
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    is for the European market. All US spec CR-Vs have the 2.4 reguardless of point of origin.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Clive - In some markets (like the UK and Japan), the CR-V comes with a 2.0L engine that is very similar to the one found in the Honda Stream. It cranks out about 156 hp and 141 lb-ft of torque. In markets where fuel economy is king, and cars are taxed based on engine displacement, this is a good idea. However, in lead-foot markets like the USA, buyers would complain about it being under powered. While there is only a 4 hp difference, the engine lacks the torque that many Americans want.

    This 2.0L model is made in both the Swindon and Sayama plants along side the 2.4L version we have here. They just don't ship them to us.

    I have no idea if the 2.0 vs 2.4 will make a significant difference in crash test results. I just wanted to mention it as a possibility for folks to consider.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    autosite.com finally updated.


    http://www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr/svolsu.asp


    CR-V fell behind Escape and Liberty for the month of May, but Year to Date total is still ahead of the other two.

  • shellymeister2shellymeister2 Member Posts: 115
    Tonight, again, my daughter had trouble starting our CRV. The symptoms: It cranks, but does not start. This time it took 5 tries. It happened to me once about 3 weeks ago also. Fortunately or unfortunately, the problem is sporadic. I'm concerned that since the problem is intermittent, the dealer might have trouble locating the source of the problem. Anyone out there having similar experiences? Any TSB's issued for this problem?
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    But isn't it a pain to have to reset the seat everytime you take it in for servicing and the mechanic adjusts the seat.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Bodydouble - Golly, wouldn't I love to be in your shoes. No offense, friend, but if adjusting the seat once every 3-5K miles is a big problem for you, then I want to live your life. =)
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    Have not had the pleasure of taking my V for service but I like my seat all the way back so I just run it into the stops.If you are going to have power seats a memory seat would be nice.
    My Acura has both power seats and I like them because on a trip I can recline to take a nap then push a button and be back upright.Someday
    I would like an MDX or Pilot but am happy for now.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    If it's a manual, make sure that the clutch is all the way depressed. I've done this accidentally several times after adjusting my seat and not getting the clutch 100% down. If it's all the way down, and still not working, they might have to adjust the switch there.

    Auto - no ideas right now, sorry.
  • shellymeister2shellymeister2 Member Posts: 115
    It's an automatic...........
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    Actually I was thinking of power seats with MEMORY when I made that comment. And to answer your question -- yeah, getting that all-important precise setting for the proper seat cushion tilt angle, seat-back recline angle, seat height, fore/aft position so there is perfect synergy between man and machine is not a task I take lightly! :) And don't get me started on positioning of the rear-view side mirrors. :))

    Actually, and this part if true, I've set the 2 seat memory positions on my CL for "winter" and "summer" modes. Because winter clothing is bulkier it necessitates a slighly different seat setting. Now all I have to remember is to take the proper key fob remote when the weather changes! Isn't technology great?
  • bronxgirlbronxgirl Member Posts: 2
    I just purchased a 2002 CRV-EX. I can hear any noise there is in a car. I have a vibration coming from what I think is the center console (around the radio) I think. I have not been able to find it exactly. Has anyone had this problem? I took it to service who told me that It is normal to have this noise on any non-smooth road. That I don't believe. Please help! It's driving me crazy! Most roads in NY are not smooth!
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    "perfect synergy between man and machine"

    LOL. I guess I need to spend more time working on the finer points of automotive ergonomics. =)

    Shelly - Sorry, that's the first report that I can recall. I'll let you know if I read something elsewhere.
  • benzrulesbenzrules Member Posts: 13
    Just bought a Honda Pilot and this is my first Honda to own (have owned other Japanese cars but no Honda). I am really enjoying it so far, but had a question. I purchased the 7/100 extended warranty, but of course have 60 days to cancel. My question is for the longtime Honda owners, what problems are typical after the factory 3/36 expires. I have never purchased the warranty for other Japanese vehicles, but have for the Mercedes I own as these repairs can get wickedly expensive. Would appreciate feedback from other long-time Honda owners as to basic repair items and costs further down the road. Thanks for your help.

    Stephen
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Stephen - I'm no help. I haven't had to repair mine.
  • freeberfreeber Member Posts: 116
    ...but a dealer told me they are notorious for Power window actuators failing and AC probs. My family never had any of those issues through many Hondas. I'm on my first though so I can't say. (Most people feel its a waste of money. I got one anyway...)
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    Automatic transmission failure would be a major concern which, by itself, may justify the extended warranty.
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    My reasoning is this.You are covered for 3 years
    and 36000 miles.Then if you finance for four years
    you have one year to worry about because you are still making payments.After four years the payments can be put into an account for repairs
    and if you were paying $400 a month then in a year you will have $5000 which should be enough
    for any repairs.But realistically the chances of a transmission blowing at 50000 miles is slight.
    My sons Escort has well over 100000 miles and still works but his Mazda MPV died at 80000 miles.
    It's a gamble.
  • oldstuffoldstuff Member Posts: 14
    Just bought it two days ago, we simply love it. I have read on this board people do not like the bland front end or that its not body matched painted. Well, we love it just as it is. My last car had stone chips all over the hood and I was reminded how it "could be" with the CRV while driving it home from the dealer, a big Semi truck passed me hauling gravel and I heard that painstaking sound of rocks bouncing off my new car,,,,AAAHHHHH. I for one am glad it has a plastic scratch resistant nose. I cant think of any complaints with the design inside either. Very bland but hey, they say I'm boring so its a fit. Its very functional and thats what were looking for. Cant wait to try it out in the Sierra Mtns skiing this year.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Good point about the 2.0 engine in the European CR-V's, and their possible influence on the EuroNCAP crash tests.

    I would think that the (presumably) heavier 2.4 engine might improve the score in an offset crash test, all other things being equal. Usually more mass helps.

    Are there any other equipment differences for the European CR-V?
  • sluglineslugline Member Posts: 391
    One thing I've noticed is that in markets outside the US, compact and luxury are not exclusive terms in the car markets. The CR-V winds up being the high-end SUV model in many markets like Europe, and Honda makes goodies like heated mirrors, navigation systems, and headlight washers available. But there's a price to be paid, and I am guessing that Honda thinks that Americans are not willing to pay $30K+ for a Honda-brand mini-SUV, so we get the $20K-ish version instead.
  • yellow_jacketyellow_jacket Member Posts: 2
    Greeting to all,

    After test driving about a dozen new Mini-SUV and sports wagon type of cars, I finally decide to get a Honda CR-V. I really like to get a 5 spd CR-V. But no dealer in the area has a 5 spd CR-V ( Atlanta region). Is it really a good idea to buy a 5 spd CR-V? I don't care about resale value since I intend to keep it until it can't run any more. The thing worries me is the availability of the parts in the future since there are so few 5 spd CR-V around. What do you think?

    Also I like to ask a few questions on CR-V.

    1. Is CR-V made in Japan or England? The brochure says it is made in Japan. But a sales agent told me some are made in England. If the CR-V is made in England, I would have to reconsider other options since I don't trust the quality of the car built in U.K.
    2. Do ABS and AWD really work? In a few months, I will relocate to Penn. Just wondering if ABS and AWD justify the extra cost. I drove another brand of car with the traction control in a thunder storm, the car actually performed better without the traction control.
    3. How long is the typical delivery time? Do I have to pay the full price even before I see the car? If so, what kind of protection do I have if something goes wrong?
    4. Excluding tax, title and dealer fee, I intend to pay $19 K for a 5 spd CR-V LX (standard equipment with no extra option). Is this price too low or too high? How much do you pay for dealer fee?

    Thanks in advance for your help and your time.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Wmquan - I've never been able to get a straight answer about the differences between the 2.0 and 2.4 versions. Some descriptions of the 2.4 engine hint at the possibility that it's the same chunk of aluminum as the 2.0. It's just been bored slightly and stroked to increase the volume of the cylinder pots. If that is the case, then mass would actually be decreased. That is, unless the 2.4's head weighs considerably more than the 2.0's.

    To make matters more complicated, there could be differences in the hardware that gets air and fuel in and out of the cylinders. It's possible that the manifolds, intakes, filters, and everything else under the hood is slightly different or placed in different locations.

    I suspect that some of these related systems are different, but not many. The cost of manufacturing all of them would be too high. The bottom line is still a big question mark.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Yellow_Jacket - Some CR-V's are made in England. The USA is currently getting shipments from across both oceans. The ones from the UK are sent to the east coast.

    As for reliability, the Swindon plant must meet the same quality controls as the Sayama plant. The UK vehicles use the same design, same parts, and same manufacturing methods. Last year, the Accord and Civic took 1st and 3rd place in a large scale reliability survey in the UK. Both are made in the Swindon plant.

    The fact that Rover, Morris, Aston Martin, and other English car makers have always had trouble making quality cars has to do with the designs, corporate controls, UK economy, and manufacturing processes. Honda is a completely different company.

    Does it really matter if the guy on the assembly line is named John, Juan, or Jian?
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    No. But all else being equal, I would prefer if his name is Matsubara, or Yoshida, or Ichiro!
  • crvciviccrvcivic Member Posts: 11
    I just picked up my 02 EX V 5 speed. I would recommend it. Nice close gates with shorter throws than older V's. I definitely wouldn't worry about parts availability,that's not a blip on the radar unless the world goes mad max on us. I was concerned about the potential problems with a UK built model and fortunately I got a Japanese one. You might try to specify a Japanese model when ordering, which with the 5 speed, you will likely need to do. Delivery time exactly 3 months. $500.00 refundable deposit left when ordered, nothing more until I signed the invoice at delivery. Read up on buying new scams on this site before anything.
  • arkydogarkydog Member Posts: 50
    I too was unable to find a 5-spd '02 CR-V for under $22,000 in the Carolinas or Georgia, so I ordered one for $18,516 from a dealer in Okla. that I discovered on this bulletin board. Like Crvcivic, I paid a $500 deposit, no other fees or up-fronts. I ordered in May with a late July delivery date. So far, I'm on schedule, haven't received a VIN yet or confirmation of where the car was made, but am checking weekly.

    I have had a 5-spd mini-SUV (Suzuki Sidekick 4-dr) for nearly 9 yrs., driving in the Carolinas and mts. of NC. If you are in central Ga., I think the 5-spd is definitely worth having in this part of the country. Lots of fun, peppy, quick even with a smaller engine than the CR-V. Does dirt and gravel roads and mud better than any automatic I've ever had. Plus, I get excellent gas mileage with the 5-spd. even though I drive fairly fast on highways (70 - 80 mph). Am a little worried about lower gas mileage with the heavier CR-V. Traction in wet weather has never been a strong point with my mini-SUV, but a lot of that depends on my tires and how worn they are. I expect the AWD CR-V will be an improvement over the RWD I've always driven.

    I'll be interested to see how you like your 5-spd. Please post -- most folks on this bulletin board have automatics!
  • falcon74falcon74 Member Posts: 67
    What is the name of the dealerships in Oklahoma and what was the price in relation to MSRP? Thanks-
  • yellow_jacketyellow_jacket Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the response. Here is more of my comments and questions.

    Varmint & Bodydouble: I agreed with Bodydouble. CR-V is 100% made in Japan is one of the dominant factors I choose CR-V. I had seen how the British union workers work before ( not the auto plant). I'd rather see CR-V made in U.S than in U.K if it is not build in Japan.

    Crvcivic & arkydog: 3 months is really a long time!! By the way, what kind of scams do they play when ordering the car in advance?

    I didn't get the chance to drive the 5 spd CR-V. I drove the automatic version and the 5 spd Civic Si ( which has similar gear box and engine). My first impression is CR-V is not as fast as the other one ( Toyota RAV 4, Ford Escape, Nissan Exterra, etc.). The gear box is kind of similar to the one used in Toyota Matrix or Pontiac Vibe. It is pretty decent. But Japanese car still have a long way to go in terms of performance when comparing with a German car with 5 spd. I am somewhat concerned about ordering a 5 spd CR-V without driving one. But nobody has one around here ( in the city of Atlanta).

    Arkydog: $18.5 K sounds like a great deal. Which model did you order?

    Crvcivic: How much did you pay for your CR-V? If you don't like the car you order, can you get part of your deposit back? Did you order the same way as Arkydog?

    By the way, how do you determine if the CR-V is made in Japan or U.K? Dealers make mistake all the time on their sheets. I just want to be able to tell by myself.
  • h1vch1vc Member Posts: 295
    I think that would be www.markroberts.com. But they don't do that anymore. Now they sell at msrp.
  • sunturtle70sunturtle70 Member Posts: 2
    What have people's experience been taking their CR-V off-road? Has anyone purchased any after-market products to make their CR-V more off-road worthy? I'm considering the X-terra and Liberty, but worry about their long term reliability. With 150K on my Civic, I'm a loyal Honda fan.
  • sluglineslugline Member Posts: 391
    Factors against the CR-V as an offroader:
    (1) Stock tire size is on the small side.
    (2) Underbody is not well-shielded.
    (3) No low-range gearing.

    Factors in favor of allowing the CR-V to offroad:
    (1) Ground clearance not bested by many others outside of Jeep.
    (2) Decent approach and departure angles.
    (3) Real-Time 4WD system.

    If you can give us your definition of "offroading," we'll be better able to give you an assessment.
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