Does Honda offer heated mirrors as an accesory on the CR-V? I have had them on other cars and really like them. I think they should be standard or at least offered on any suv/4WD vehicle that is likely to be used in bad weather. Also, do the wipers just have one fixed "intermittent" speed? It doesn't sound like they have variable intermittent speed. Honda always seems to leave out some little things here and there that the competition has and I feel should be included in the EX model. I think they leave this stuff off because they can since they know their cars are going to sell well anyway. Not a good attitude!
Thomas: if you are a gadget lover, try a Forester XS, it has tons of content, including heated mirrors, seats, front windshield de-icers, and even rear window de-icers.
But I bet you could find an aftermarket fitment (Mito maybe) for the CR-V.
Where are you? Honda, in their "infinite wisdom," choose to supply different accy's, not to mention to models, to different countries ... note other interesting items on the same page ;-)
That photo shows the best part - the heat helps even when it's just raining. Looks like Honda (and Subaru, FWIW) keeps the best stuff for the home market.
Check out those ones that have turn signals built-in, those are pretty cool too.
Speak portuguese, lefty? (inside joke, calcanhoto means left-handed)
We pronounce it Tay-Shay-Dah, but the X throws everyone off.
That air filtration is cool, I added it to my ride. What are those little sensors in the bumper? Parking distance control? That would be good if you have tinted windows.
wipers are not variable intermittent, though the civic ex has variable. The difference is that the spot on the stalk was used for the rear wiper instead. It would have been very easy to include them, but then they would have needed to put the controls for the rear wiper on the dash, not the stalk. I like the variable ones too, but this certainly wasn't a deal breaker for me.
I don't think the heated mirrors are available in the US market. I've never had heated mirrors, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing.
robmarch, Somebody in Canada correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the EX come with heated mirrors and a digitial temp. reading for inside and outside the CRV.
I thought they were available in canada also, but didn't want to post b/c I didn't know for sure. I didn't see a flag next to domettg's name, so I didn't know what market he's in.
I might think about installing the canadian heated mirrors in my CRV, if they aren't too expensive.
ateixeira ... Tay-shay-dah ... almost sounds Japanese ... Teisheida, mas o menos ...
My wife tells me, yes the sensors are some sort of proximity sensors ... 60 cm for rear, 50 cm front ... and "it beeps." Very handy for 5' 2" wife, tinted rear glass, etc.
P.S. Speaking of Adriana Calcanhoto (left handed :-) what does "Vambora" mean? Idioma ... "It comes, it goes?" One week in Horta quickly taught me Espanol ain't Portugues
Someone posted the other day asking whether the CR-V was difficult for an elderly person. My 85-year-old not quite 5' mother was able to get in it on Sunday with little difficulty, and exiting was even easier. All she had to do was turn in the seat and basically stand up. Entering and exiting was much easier for her than the low-slung car I had before. This is a great relief to me as I was so worried about whether she would be able to get in it at all. No problem!
Although my folks are not elderly, they are in their late 60's and got the CRV for that exact reason. They were finding their Accord a bit too low and the CRV is very easy to get in and out of for them.
Sorry, my wife says left-handed in Brazilian is 'canhoto'. About little extras, I'm sure Honda will begin to gradually included them year by year. When you have a good model, you only want to tinker with it a bit, maybe improve it by adding options or missing accessories as standard. Look, the '03 is getting a bigger dash compartment with the door that will hold CD's plus a few other minor accessories. Remember the '02 door compartment was too small. Heated mirrors would be nice, they are available in Canada but not the US, yet most US manufacturers put them on mid and high level cars. Here in the Northeast we get freezing rain, snow, fog too. It's interesting that most car makers leave out some extra's but have some that others don't have.
njbob - if you're in New Jersey then you ain't in the Northeast ... Maine IS the Northeast, especially when you're originally from Tallahassee :-) "Canhoto," left handed, etc. where IS that translate website? :-)
OK, CR-V talk ... I think what ateixeira and I are pushing is the frustration we feel that "Big Brother Honda" is differentiating its product at our expense ... protecting the Pilot (and the Element?) in the US, competing with everything in Australia and Nippon itself, etc., etc.
I think the impact of the web is very interesting in this situation ... information travels at the speed of a good Google search argument, so to speak. I recently returned from a vacation in Japan (where CR-Vs seemed relatively scarce BTW), and was able to personally eyeball some of their accessories ... but the point is click on ...
... for an English index of most of the accy's available in Japan, some of which WOULD be very useful here in the U.S. ... but apparently don't fit Honda's current marketing scheme/strategy.
Handa sez they can only sell what Honda U.S. distributes here ... so we're left to other devices :-) It will be another year before I'm back in Japan, so now I'm looking for a Handa in Honda-land, so to speak.
Vent, vent ... time for some Ithamara Koorax, not to mention Adriana Calcanhoto :-)
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Are those 2003 CR-V pictures I see at hondanews.com?
Well, that's what the text below the images identify them as...but it sure looks to me like some (most?) of them are recycled 2002 images.
For example, scroll through until you find the "2003" image of the center console with both storage compartments and the drink holder open. If you compare it to the "2002" image of the center console with the compartments open you'll notice it's the exact same picture. The upper compartment is the same size despite the fact that Honda announced they were increasing the size.
I guess it depends how much other stuff you would like to bring along. The back seats are certainly big enough for 2 adults on long trips, and 3 is pretty comfortable also. The rear seats also slide forward to give more room in the back, so if you don't need the full leg room in the rear seat you can trade it for space behind the rear seat.
I'd recommend the new CRV to most people, excluding those who require large towing capability, those who require seating for more than 5, or those who really need better gas mileage and would be better off with a smaller car. It's also not a sporty handling vehicle, but has enough highway and around town power for me. It doesn't handle badly, just not very sportily.
It's a very flexible, comfortable vehicle. I would include it in the vehicles you plan to compare.
I notice the tie-rod coupling to the right wheel bracket on my 02 V is not flush. There is a slight angle towards the front. The coupling on the left wheel is perfectly flush. Would this cause undo pressure on the connecting bolt and possible breakage? There is almost constant movement and pressure on this coupling. Bolt breakage would cause steering loss. Should correction of this problem be covered by the Honda warranty? Any opinions would be appreciated.
A couple of things, first, is the lack of some accessories. For example many Honda competitors have foglights as standard on their higher level SUV's. This means that Honda should have had the foglights as standard on the EX. Honda does come up a little short in extras compared to others, but they don't come up short in overall value and quality. The '02 has some minor teething problems (ie drift to right, rocking seats, cel light going on) most have been corrected as the model year progressed, but look at the Escape, it had some major problems. I don't understand the lack of heated outside mirrors here in the colder US areas. Since the CRV is an international car, maybe Honda in Japan hasn"t quite figured out what we want?
Second, NJ is considered part of the Northeast, though a bit on the southern end.
Finally, I got the CRV for many reasons, it is one of the best in gas mileage for its class and good power (would never have considered it if it still had the 2.0 Liter engine) Also liked the rear seat leg room. At 6 ft tall, one of my criteria is I have to sit comfortably in the rear seat with the front seat all the way back. I wanted the ability to carry items bigger than what I can fit into my sedans's trunk. The CRV has proven itself a very versatile vehicle, I definitely made the right choice.
I agree with njbob about the heated mirrors, fog lights, etc. Also, how much would it cost to include an outside temperature guage, automatic headlights, variable delay wipers, homelink garage door transmitter? To me, the CR-V would look more substantial with larger, wider tires. I think 205's are whimpy for even a mini-suv and 16 inch wheels would fill up the wheel wells more giving it a larger presence. The roof rack should be standard on the EX IMHO. Another thing that would be nice that could be done at the dealer would be to subsitute the fold down tray with a real center console for those who value storage space more than the ability to walk between the seats. These are things I think many people would be willing to pay for. Instead, you are faced with trade-offs. Many people will still go with the CR-V because of Honda's reputation but you feel you would have liked the ability to get some off the things offered on the Forester for example. I know that Honda does not do "packages" that include groups of accessories. This makes the vehicle selection process very simple, especially in terms of locating a vehicle. If you want a white EX automatic, you got it. However, maybe they should have one more trim level in the CR-V to add alot of these goodies. I think there is more than enough room between the CR-V price and the Pilot price to do this without infringing on the Pilot. Just my opinion.
I have a 2002 Canadian EX, and it has heated outside mirrors (fortunately, I have not yet had to use them) as well as an outside temperature gauge. No inside temperature gauge, however.
theracoon: did you notice in the features for 03, the foldable tray table is for a cell phone in 2003. Wow I'm excited. wonder if that's just a description change or reality. And the white ext/ black is not listed....
from autonews.com anyone see this aug 26 2002? "CR-V: A hybrid is expected to bow when the sport wagon is reskinned for the 2005 model year." no other details. mmm
njbob: Honda does have less content, all that stuff plus cross bars for the roof rack are missing. I think they leave accessorizing up to the dealers, or you.
But they do offer value pricing, it's hard to get a moonroof and side air bags for about $21k.
If you do want all that stuff and aren't the DIY type, check out a Subie, 'cause they offer virtually everything mentioned above standard.
But even Subaru has cut a few costs - the mud guards and cargo cover are no longer standard. But the CR-V doesn't have those, either.
I guess that's the trade-off; the Canadian models (LX, EX, EX-with leather) come with some features not available in the U.S. - but then we don't have a large enough population to warrant after market suppliers like Handa-accessories.
We chose the LX and gave up some things we really would have liked because the LX comes with side airbags standard. We have young children and there have been some reports of children in the back seats of autos being injured by front side-airbag deployment. As the CR-V has excellent side impact ratings without the airbags, we decided it would be better not to have the sidebags until further studies show whether they are safe or not.
To Haralick: We just bought ours, and our two kids are now 8 and 10, plus a 65 lb Lab. I spent several years lifting kids in and out of a 2-door hatchback. One slipped disc later, I would comment that any vehicle with a high entry/exit will be a joy to your parenting duties. The CR-V has one feature that I love a lot - the tray that folds down - great for access to your kids. Regarding size, that is a personal judgment. We find it big after what we had.
Soccermum, I don't think you are going to want to hear this because you could have gotten the EX with side airbags and your kids would have been fine.
There are sensor that sense the difference between kids and adults based on the size of the person sitting in the seat. If a small body is sitting in the seat, the airbags are turned off. This is true for all the air bags.
After many years and cars, I finally got a rock to cause a crack in my '02 EX cr-v windshield. Since this has never happened to me, I have a couple of questions: 1. For the sun shield material that is above the rear view mirror (dotted pattern) - will the people who replace the window also replace that? 2. What happens to the inspection and license stickers and rear view mirror?
My insurance company told me I have a choice in who I use, although using a Honda dealer would be more and not covered. What questions should I ask of these companies that do this? Thanks.
Most insurance will allow you to use OE parts, especially since your car is so new. So push them a bit to see. Maybe you could compromise - tell them you'd buy it from a wholesaler, like Handa, to get reasonable prices, and have them recommend a place to install it.
Otherwise, ask for an aftermarket part that resembles the OE one, including the tint.
red dots on tires usually are to help them balance with the wheels. Sometimes there are corresponding dots on the alloy wheels, which annoys lots of people.
The OEM glass uses something called "greenshield" tinting to help prevent the interior from getting hot. It works. We discussed it earlier in this forum when someone measured it with a light meter. Get the OEM glass.
"There are sensor[s] that sense the difference between kids and adults based on the size of the person sitting in the seat. If a small body is sitting in the seat, the airbags are turned off. This is true for all the air bags. "
What happens if the sensors don't ... oh, that's right, I forgot, there are sensor to sense whether the sensors are sensing.
Does this make ANY sense?
I still agree with Rush ... rather than airbags, put a big spike on the end of the steering column, pointed right at the driver's chest ... then, by Jove, people will drive more safely.
I continue to find extreme irony in finding that our safety bags were/are unsafe :-)
Varmint, That was me with the light meter, it filters all but a smidget of UV lights. Sitting in the CRV is like you wearing UV protecting sunglasses outside.
ROYGBIV light (visible light) is not blocked much by the green tint, you can see that when you sit behind the lightly tinted green glass of the CRV. The black/smoke tint you see in the EX does help keep the temperature down because it does block the ROYGBIV light.
Mainemanx - Cadilac used to do that. One of their trademark interior details was a big fat cone mounted right in the center of the steering wheel and pointed at the driver. Tre chic.
Daveghh - Thanks. That's the notion I was trying to get across.
My interpretation of what I had read was this - the side airbags (in front) deploy with adults in the front seats - and children sitting in the back seats were injured. I will attempt to find what I had read over six months ago to verify, but it put me off at the time. I thought perhaps it was like the deal with front airbags. Once they were ubiquitous, problems began to emerge. Fixes came later, but too late for the unwary few that were vulnerable.
Perhaps I am overprotective, but I only have the two. I am rethinking my habit of having the dog in the rear cargo area, isn't that a 'crumple zone'? Maybe she should ride in middle rear seat position with her own seat belt.
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But I bet you could find an aftermarket fitment (Mito maybe) for the CR-V.
-juice
http://www.honda.co.jp/ACCESS/automobiles/cr-v/useful.html
2nd item down.
Where are you? Honda, in their "infinite wisdom," choose to supply different accy's, not to mention to models, to different countries ... note other interesting items on the same page ;-)
Check out those ones that have turn signals built-in, those are pretty cool too.
-juice
RE: http://www.honda.co.jp/ACCESS/automobiles/cr-v/useful.html
I particularly like the Remote Start ... but can only afford the Footlights ... plus, I love that title "Useful Items."
We pronounce it Tay-Shay-Dah, but the X throws everyone off.
That air filtration is cool, I added it to my ride. What are those little sensors in the bumper? Parking distance control? That would be good if you have tinted windows.
-juice
I don't think the heated mirrors are available in the US market. I've never had heated mirrors, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing.
Somebody in Canada correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the EX come with heated mirrors and a digitial temp. reading for inside and outside the CRV.
I might think about installing the canadian heated mirrors in my CRV, if they aren't too expensive.
-juice
-juice
My wife tells me, yes the sensors are some sort of proximity sensors ... 60 cm for rear, 50 cm front ... and "it beeps." Very handy for 5' 2" wife, tinted rear glass, etc.
P.S. Speaking of Adriana Calcanhoto (left handed :-) what does "Vambora" mean? Idioma ... "It comes, it goes?" One week in Horta quickly taught me Espanol ain't Portugues
I bet lots of short women drive small SUVs so something like that would be desireable. The one in a Rendezvous I test drove worked well.
Vambora may be short for Vamos Embora, which means let's go!
-juice
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OK, CR-V talk ... I think what ateixeira and I are pushing is the frustration we feel that "Big Brother Honda" is differentiating its product at our expense ... protecting the Pilot (and the Element?) in the US, competing with everything in Australia and Nippon itself, etc., etc.
I think the impact of the web is very interesting in this situation ... information travels at the speed of a good Google search argument, so to speak. I recently returned from a vacation in Japan (where CR-Vs seemed relatively scarce BTW), and was able to personally eyeball some of their accessories ... but the point is click on ...
http://www.honda.co.jp/ACCESS/automobiles/cr-v/index.html
... for an English index of most of the accy's available in Japan, some of which WOULD be very useful here in the U.S. ... but apparently don't fit Honda's current marketing scheme/strategy.
Handa sez they can only sell what Honda U.S. distributes here ... so we're left to other devices :-) It will be another year before I'm back in Japan, so now I'm looking for a Handa in Honda-land, so to speak.
Vent, vent ... time for some Ithamara Koorax, not to mention Adriana Calcanhoto :-)
Nope! Sorry. Maine is EAST - as is Wyoming! :-)
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Sumimasen ... my wife sez we're both wrong ... Tokyo is East, and a Sable is an animal!
I guess it's all in which way you're "headed" ;-|
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I want Honda to make the CRV in a V6, a quieter interior and a footrest for my left foot! I'd buy the CRV in an instant!
Well, that's what the text below the images identify them as...but it sure looks to me like some (most?) of them are recycled 2002 images.
For example, scroll through until you find the "2003" image of the center console with both storage compartments and the drink holder open. If you compare it to the "2002" image of the center console with the compartments open you'll notice it's the exact same picture. The upper compartment is the same size despite the fact that Honda announced they were increasing the size.
Marketing...don't you you just love it...
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too small for a young family of 4. 2 kids, one
1.5 yr, one 1 month.
I'd recommend the new CRV to most people, excluding those who require large towing capability, those who require seating for more than 5, or those who really need better gas mileage and would be better off with a smaller car. It's also not a sporty handling vehicle, but has enough highway and around town power for me. It doesn't handle badly, just not very sportily.
It's a very flexible, comfortable vehicle. I would include it in the vehicles you plan to compare.
The CRV is very sporty for an SUV or even mini-vans. It rides like a large stationwagen instead of rough and crude like the Jeep Cherokee.
The sliding seats are a plus!
Man, check out that custom fit child seat. Though I'd like to see a built in booster, like Volvo offers.
-juice
Second, NJ is considered part of the Northeast, though a bit on the southern end.
Finally, I got the CRV for many reasons, it is one of the best in gas mileage for its class and good power (would never have considered it if it still had the 2.0 Liter engine) Also liked the rear seat leg room. At 6 ft tall, one of my criteria is I have to sit comfortably in the rear seat with the front seat all the way back. I wanted the ability to carry items bigger than what I can fit into my sedans's trunk. The CRV has proven itself a very versatile vehicle, I definitely made the right choice.
did you notice in the features for 03, the foldable tray table is for a cell phone in 2003. Wow I'm excited. wonder if that's just a description change or reality. And the white ext/ black is not listed....
from autonews.com
anyone see this aug 26 2002?
"CR-V: A hybrid is expected to bow when the sport wagon is reskinned for the 2005 model year."
no other details. mmm
But they do offer value pricing, it's hard to get a moonroof and side air bags for about $21k.
If you do want all that stuff and aren't the DIY type, check out a Subie, 'cause they offer virtually everything mentioned above standard.
But even Subaru has cut a few costs - the mud guards and cargo cover are no longer standard. But the CR-V doesn't have those, either.
-juice
We chose the LX and gave up some things we really would have liked because the LX comes with side airbags standard. We have young children and there have been some reports of children in the back seats of autos being injured by front side-airbag deployment. As the CR-V has excellent side impact ratings without the airbags, we decided it would be better not to have the sidebags until further studies show whether they are safe or not.
To Haralick: We just bought ours, and our two kids are now 8 and 10, plus a 65 lb Lab. I spent several years lifting kids in and out of a 2-door hatchback. One slipped disc later, I would comment that any vehicle with a high entry/exit will be a joy to your parenting duties. The CR-V has one feature that I love a lot - the tray that folds down - great for access to your kids. Regarding size, that is a personal judgment. We find it big after what we had.
I don't think you are going to want to hear this because you could have gotten the EX with side airbags and your kids would have been fine.
There are sensor that sense the difference between kids and adults based on the size of the person sitting in the seat. If a small body is sitting in the seat, the airbags are turned off. This is true for all the air bags.
1. For the sun shield material that is above the rear view mirror (dotted pattern) - will the people who replace the window also replace that?
2. What happens to the inspection and license stickers and rear view mirror?
My insurance company told me I have a choice in who I use, although using a Honda dealer would be more and not covered. What questions should I ask of these companies that do this?
Thanks.
Otherwise, ask for an aftermarket part that resembles the OE one, including the tint.
-juice
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What happens if the sensors don't ... oh, that's right, I forgot, there are sensor to sense whether the sensors are sensing.
Does this make ANY sense?
I still agree with Rush ... rather than airbags, put a big spike on the end of the steering column, pointed right at the driver's chest ... then, by Jove, people will drive more safely.
I continue to find extreme irony in finding that our safety bags were/are unsafe :-)
That was me with the light meter, it filters all but a smidget of UV lights. Sitting in the CRV is like you wearing UV protecting sunglasses outside.
ROYGBIV light (visible light) is not blocked much by the green tint, you can see that when you sit behind the lightly tinted green glass of the CRV. The black/smoke tint you see in the EX does help keep the temperature down because it does block the ROYGBIV light.
Daveghh - Thanks. That's the notion I was trying to get across.
But you need to remember that a New Englander considers Philadelphia to be the Deep South.
LOL - I slay me!!
Perhaps I am overprotective, but I only have the two. I am rethinking my habit of having the dog in the rear cargo area, isn't that a 'crumple zone'? Maybe she should ride in middle rear seat position with her own seat belt.