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Toyota 4Runner



  • akgakg Posts: 85
    I bought a 2001 last October(thanks to Cliffy's help!!!), paid $500 over invoice, but got the $1500 cash back incentive. The only thing I had to pay, was the sales tax on the original($500 over invoice) amount before the $1500 was deducted. My total(before sales tax) was $26,700 for a SR5 4x4. What I ended up with was $1000 under invoice(more or less).

    Hey, how wide is the 2003 going to be?
  • vicarouzavicarouza Posts: 18
    This has also been a MAJOR concern of mine!!....I currently own a 2001 SR5 4WD and one of it's greatest assets is its MANUVERABLILITY because of it's tight dimensions (especially width) - parking is also a breeze and so are those narrow trails when going to that "secluded" spot the 4 Runner can take you.

    IMHO, I think that the current 4 Runner is a tad bit narrow (cramped) for comfort and I'd like to see it a bit wider (for stability as well)......but I'm keeping my fingers crossed and praying that they don't make it TOO WIDE like that Acura MDX - 77 inches(what were those guys thinking??????)Currently the 4 Runner 68 inches wide and rumor has it that it will be about 4 inches wider -72inches (HOPE THIS IS TRUE, cause anything wider would make it practically useless on the trails, and it would lose it's nimble fun-to-drive factor and it's precious manuverability)
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    how the new redesigned 4Runner will fare in the marketplace, once it debuts. I have no question that it will be an excellent vehicle, but I have serious doubts with the advent of all the new IRS-fold-flat-3-row-seating SUVs, as to whether it has the "stuff" to win the "showroom battles."

    No question, for those who need the extra off-road and towing capability, the 4Runner will be an excellent choice. Although the new '03 Expedition offers those capabilities too; and offers IRS, 3-row seating, and I've seen several XLT-trim models with sticker prices just above $37K.

    Granted, the Expedition is more likely to be compared to a Sequoia, but still, it's food for thought...

  • What is the typical mpg of a 1996-newer 4runner with 4banger and auto, and V6 and auto. How much difference if any, does 2WD vs. 4WD make? Thanks, Lance.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    Maybe, but the Expedition & Explorer both have fairly cheezy interiors. IRS & 3rd row seating isn't everything, especially when it comes to reliability.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    I think the mileage difference is somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4 mpg. The 4 cynl. has to work a little harder due to less torque to pull the saame weight. I'm sure Cliffy would have actual specs for you on that.
  • dmason56dmason56 Posts: 1
    I'm looking to buy my 16 yr old a first vehicle. A buddy has a '92 4Runner w/about 100k miles. Do you think it would be a good first vehicle? Ease of driving? Durability? Etc......Thanks for your input.
  • This is a good first vehicle. Get the VIN and check service records with a Toyota dealership as your next step. Lance.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Think of it as the manufacturer paying part of your down payment. That is exactly what is happening.
  • lindaf4lindaf4 Posts: 3
    I will be trading my 92 soon and have 2 questions.
    1. What should I expect to get for it? I have only 50,000 actual miles on it and I'm the original owner. Other than a worn spot on the leather upholstery and a small dent in the back, it's in perfect condition.

    2. Should I wait for the 03 or try for a good deal on this year's model? Hubby is pushing me to get a Lexus, but I've been ecstatically happy with the Toyota. What do you think?
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    I would fill out the Edmunds TMV information for a used '92 4Runner, which takes things like mileage, condition, color, and options into consideration. Personally, with a small dent in it, I would consider it "near mint" condition, not "mint" condition, when filling out the on-line form. Edmunds is usually right on if you're honest about the way your form is filled out. I filled it out for my truck, went into a dealer to have it appraised, and Edmunds was dead on.

    As far as waiting for the '03 Runner, that's exactly what I'm doing. If you have time to skim some of the posts over the last month or so on this board, you'll get a good idea for the pros and cons of the '02 vs the '03. To sum it up, if you aren't concerned about additional power, more roomy interior, or improved ergonomics, then the current 4Runner is for you. If those things that are lacking in the '02 bother you, then wait until September. It's not that far away. The new model will have a 245 hp/283 lbs/ft V6 and an optional 235 hp/320 lbs/ft V8 (standard in the Limited), and is about 5" longer, 4.5" wider, and 3 to 5" taller, with a much-improved interior with optional navigation and DVD systems. If cost is an issue, the word is that Toyota is going to actually cut the price of the 4Runner slightly, by offering more packaged options. Supposedly, they're trying to get the 4Runner closer to it's roots as being an affordable off-roader, while making it more competitive with the Xterra.

    I personally was unimpressed with the 4Runner in the fall of '97, when I ordered my '98 Jimmy 4x4 instead. I recently drove a 2002, and while there have been some improvements over the last couple of years, I was still unimpressed. Especially when there are so many SUVs out there with more power and nicer interiors. From the looks of the Lexus GX470 that the new 4Runner is based on, and the spy photos I have posted, I think the '03 is going to be WELL WORTH THE WAIT.

    If your husband is pushing you toward Lexus, but you like the 4Runner, then the new GX470 would satisfy both of your needs, but you'll have to wait until November for that, and pay a little more for it. I think it's an awesome-looking, incredible SUV, at least on paper.

    If you don't want to scroll up to find the links to pictures of the Lexus and '03 4Runner spy shots I posted, let me know and I'll post them again for you. Hope all this helps! -TB
  • My crystal ball is a little foggy today but consider this: There will still be 2002's available when the 2003's come out. Toyota would like to see them all gone on the introduction of 2003's but it's not likely. If they run out of 2002's too soon they have nothing to sell in that category, if they have too much inventory they'll have to discount to get rid of them when the new model comes out. You can only hope they have too many and the discounts are good but at least you can compare when the 2003's come out and make a more informed decision. The reason Toyota isn't giving out information on the 2003's is because they don't want to loose sales on the 2002's. I was about to set down 40 large on a Sequoia but I decided to wait to check out the new 4Runner, more interior space, V8, better resale. I say wait.

    Here's a link to Kelley Blue Book. It will give you a ball park on the value of your current vehicle.

  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    Kelly Blue Book is also a great source for comparison, but I've found Edmunds to be more accurate. Here's a link to the '92 4Runner info to fill out:
  • When I clicked "post message" then went up to re-read it, your's showed up at the same time, we must have posted in the same minute. It is interesting we both had the same thoughts about waiting for the new vehicle. I also drove the 4Runner (2002) and very quickly decided it was not the one for me. Too cramped and not real comfortable to drive for my size. I'm hoping the new model will be a big improvement to an already well liked vehicle. I'd prefer the larger Sequoia (4200 lb boat to pull) but my wife will be driving this vehicle most of the time and would like something a bit smaller and easier to park, etc. This may be a great unit for both of us.
  • I just ran a 99 Q45 through both Kelley and Edmunds. The private party to private party value came out $3000 higher on Kelley. Not an exact science I guess.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    What is the "Kelley Blue Book" Price?

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  • lindaf4lindaf4 Posts: 3
    I must have missed that picture link. Could you post it again?

    Thanks for the info. I did the Edmonds estimate and was pleasantly surprised. Obviously, I keep my cars a long time so I'm pretty rusty at the trade in thing.

    Only thing is, it looks like I'll have to forego the tailgate in favor of the lift. Don't know how I'll adapt to that, but I guess time will tell.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Obviously you haven't been paying attention to the market lately. The 02's will be gone by the time the 03's get here. There have been huge discounts, rebates and low apr on the 02's for the last 6 months. Our latest allocation of 02 4runners is quite small, I say they will start building the 03's around the middle of July. Those boats they put them in in Japan take a while to get here. And we still have the Sequoia, Highlander, Rav4 and Landcruiser to choose from. The supply of those is getting low too.

    : )

  • Sounds like a company man to me. Your crystal ball must be clearer than mine. Time will tell won't it now, Mr. Obvious.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Actually he is a "company man" - check his profile. Mackabee has been around Town Hall for a long time (it'd be ~18 years if edmunds had been online back then). I don't think he was trying to be snippy, but he can drive you bonkers at times when he doesn't finish his stories.


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  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    Here are the links for you:

    If you click on "Automotive" at the top either page, you get a choice of pics within the photo album, one of which is the GX470 photo collection.

    Enjoy! -TB
  • lindaf4lindaf4 Posts: 3
    Now if you just make that decision for me....
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    I wasn't trying to be "snippy" just stating the facts. And there's only one story I haven't finished. It will get finished eventually.. maybe it will get turned into a sitcom, I don't know yet.

    : )

  • newgradnewgrad Posts: 25
    Hey guys, thanks again for the advice on my A/C. They sprayed it with mold killer and the smell is gone!! However, now I have another problem that I've recently noticed. The rubber/plastic trim around the driver/passenger side windows is fading rapidly. Black has now faded into large spots of gray. Has anyone else experienced this problem? What can I do to restore the trim to it's original glory or is this a problem that I should bring to the attention of Toyota and have them fix since it's still under warranty??? Thanks in advance...
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    It depends on what may have caused the fading. Have you run your truck through a car wash with the foam wax? I had the same thing happen to my Jimmy's trim and side mirror plastic after running it through a no-touch wash with the multi-colored foam wax. Needless to say I don't go to that wash any more. I was able to restore the rubber trim and plastic mirror housings by using McGuire's wax. I had to rub the rubber for a while, but I was eventually successful. I haven't had to do that since it happened over a year ago.

    If that's not the case, and it's fading in the sun, or for some other reason, then I would definitely have Toyota replace the trim under warranty. You can try to restore it the same way I did mine, but once something like that happens due to sun or acid rain damage, chances are you'll have to do it again periodically, which would be a pain in the [non-permissible content removed], in my opinion. Better to have it done right.

    Since I don't own a 4Runner yet (can't wait till September!!), I may be way off base, and some of the other Toyota aficionados may be able to give you a better answer. Hope I helped though. Good luck! -TB
  • bigjoe5bigjoe5 Posts: 2
    Looking for advice on purchasing a used 4Runner !!
    1998 >> 2001. Seeing how the prices are a little too high for some of these 4Runners. Does anyone recommend purchasing or think that prices will drop since Toyota has redesigned it ???

    Should I wait a few months ?

    Your suggestions are welcome, thanks.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Which year and what trim level (sr5 or ltd) are you looking for? Right now with the incentives on the 02's you can pick one up at invoice or below.

    : )

  • ckmccoy5ckmccoy5 Posts: 24
    I have a question about the 4Runner: My 98 Limited is in great condition EXCEPT for a trashed console - specifically the black pieces which run between the front seats on up into the dash. Questions: Can these be replaced by me (decent skills with hand tools)? Any clue on parts cost and install costs from/by the dealer? Where can I order these type of parts online? Many thanks -love the forum - and the truck.
  • Does anyone know where i can buy jumper cables for my 2000 toyota 4runner 2wd. I live in the Houston area 1-10 west and wilcrest.
  • dchyornydchyorny Posts: 47
    I have a 2001 4Runner SR5. The two additional cigarrette lighters that are used for say cell phone charging are not working. I verified with my car where I stuck the charger and it worked. I suspect the fuse has blown. I looked underneath the driver side panel and could not figure out which one it is (fuse that is). There were a bunch of them clearly marked except this one. Also there were some that I couldn't understand what they were. Maybe it was one of them. I didn't feel like pulling them out one by one and looking at the actual fuse. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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