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GOODBYE NISSAN....FOREVER
And if that wasn't enough...10 miles after the new CVT transmission was installed by the Nissan dealer, the service engine light came on and the whole thing started smoking. It's back at the dealer again...
Needless to say, I've given up on Nissan doing anything to fix this. They know about the issue, they know people could get killed, and they know that this isn't a rare failure for their CVT transmission...and the most they have done is extend the warranty. They won't do anything more because it would be too expensive.
As soon as we get this car back from the dealer, we're driving down the street to the honda, ford, and toyota dealers to trade this mess in for something more reliable and less likely to kill my family.
If you're researching this car...don't buy it. No matter how good it looks, it is a REALLY bad car. You will regret purchasing it....trust me, this thing almost killed me. I wouldn't wish this piece of junk on my worst enemy.
do you know if folks have had these problems even in the 2011 Rogues ?
Mine was actually manufactured in Jan 2011 and was shunted between 3 dealerships before i picked it up - so it has 390 miles on it.
I am wondering if I should've picked up a June built 2011 Rogue instead for $800 more ? :mad:
Thanks for the advice!
I don't recommend to buy this car, I was reading a lot of reviews about all the problems that rouge has. :sick:
For those of you with transmission issues...do take to the dealer for a replacement...otherwise you are risking your life. the car will accelerate to more than 70 miles an hour without warning. Be safe and get it done!
I am glad that I stumbled onto this discussion thread as I have been researching the vehicle before purchasing.
Now I'm worried for my friend whom owns a JUKE with the same CVT transmission!
Will appreciate input. Thanks
Thanks again, Jim
I just bought a 2009 Rogue and decided, after the fact, to look at maintenance issues. Woops! I found this discussion group today. My car is used with 25,000 miles. What has your experience been since last August? My dealer offered a seven year 120K warranty which I took. I drove the Rogue to Charleston, SC last weekend without incident.
Don
There is engine drone from time to time, but that is normal with a cvt. I get 24mpg in town and 27-29 on the road.
The extended warranty with your vehicle is a good thing. You never know.
Jim in St. Louis.
There is engine drone from time to time, but that is normal with a cvt. I get 24mpg in town and 27-29 on the road.
The extended warranty with your vehicle is a good thing. You never know.
Jim in St. Louis.
Don
Oak Ridge
Good luck, Jim
Check if the car has a recall on the transmission. You may be covered.
Please advise as to what happens.
Jim
Enjoy the car. It is a very good vehicle.
Jim
Before we bought it, it was a fleet car for a company and then the dealership bought it at an auction where we got it. The reports for it are clear thus far. It now has 5000 a little over miles on it. Any tips help TY
(By the way, I would disagree with the comment of assuming the people who had problems are young drivers who like to speed. I am not one of them, and the others who wrote in sounded like nice couples on long road trips like I was.)
Being in the Business and having some technical experience with diags, I want to make sure I can see what is going on. I consulted two dealers and One says "It's an overheating problems, and Nissan is working on a fix" (This was from a service advisor) - I contact the Service Manager and he calls the Factory Rep, and I get the Blond Salute (The "I DUNNO SHRUG")(Yes, I'm Blond also)
I call a Buddy of Mine who is a service rep at a local dealer and he's at least willing to listen to me.
Here's what I see with a Snap On Scanner while Looking at Transmission Data.
(Quoting my email to my buddy the service rep)
So I drove the hell out of the Rogue this weekend with the scanner on it. The Datum I pointed out to you seems to be an issue.
When monitoring the ATF Temp readings, you can monitor both the Temp Sensor Voltage Reading and the ATF Temp in Degrees Fareheight. The Voltage readings Stay Between 2.0VDC and 0.6VDC which, according to the weighted values from mitchell Should be 68 Degrees and 230 degrees respectively. When I read temperature (Weighted Values) from Trans Data 2 the 2.0 volt reading is consistant with the 68 degree temp, but as the voltage drops the interpreted data shows that the trans is reading 275 Degrees at .6 volts. This will cause a failsafe mode if the TCM interprets this value as a condition that is above normal temp. When I read the temperature of the transmission with an infrared thermometer, it never gets close to the high temp reading that the interpretted datum shows.
As the transmission heats up, the whine in the transmission returns and gets louder as the temperature climbs.
I know that Nissan is aware of this heating issue and they are working on a "FIX".
I am also getting an intermittent burning smell when going uphill in warmer outside temperatures.
I know that this transmission, if it is heating up, will have excessive wear in the transmission drive belt due to the high temperatures.
I know that the whine is not an acceptable condition for the transmission to have.
Having the transmission drop into failsafe mode after 2+ hours of driving is unacceptable.
With this transmission dropping out of warranty in less than 500 miles, we need to do something about it ASAP.
(End of Email)
So, here some more "Sauce for the Goose" - If this is a problem with Data Interpretation they should have been able to fix it by reprogramming (Or cause it, because part of the first Technical Service Bulletin they performed, did a reprogramming of theTCM) - OR - If the problem is heat related and the problems don't show up untill the transmission get a few thousand miles on them, they can let it fall out of warranty with an average of a one time transmission replacement for problem units prior to the extended 120,000 mile transmission warranty expiration.
Either way, Nissan needs to step up. If you are getting a Whine, Burning Smell, Failsafe Mode (Normally with no check engine light in my case), a feeling of slipping under load - Be the Squeaky Wheel and demand an answer and a Transmission replacement as soon as it occurs. A whine is rubbing / slipping - that causes WEAR - that causes FRICTION /HEAT - THAT CAUSES FAILURE !
Good luck, my fellow Rogue Owners!
Now, I'm waiting on Nissan Consumer Support to get involved as I started a case file with them. At least the service ticket will have a mileage less than warranty expiration and I have recourse if this thing bites the bullet.
The next question is who (if anyone) serviced the transmission last? Was it overfilled at the dealer when it was replaced at 80k?
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I'm seeing alot of conflicting things with Tech Bulletins, and the like. I have now 8 calls into Consumer Affairs, and have yet to be in contact with their Rep. They Promised a contact within 24 Hours, I did get one dropped call when I attempted to answer their call.
I have a request into the supervisor now.
So what you are saying is that the Postings here are pretty much fabricated? Let me Qualify myself. I have 2+ years of formal instruction in Automotive Mechanics, I have 20 years of Electrical Technical Experience with Computer Controlled Mechanical Devices (U.S. Navy Weapons Control Systems), I have been back in the Automotive Industry as a Technical Service Consultant, Manager of Various Franchise and Independant Auto Facilities, have attended and Taken Diagnostic Strategy Training through 3 or 4 different entities, and know you imply that I don't have a clue as to what happens (or should I say Paranoid)
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The age old mentality that if it doesn't produce the Symptom then it isn't Broke, is the exact mentality by the "DEALERS" that saves tham money by allowing problems to exhist in warranty covered vehicles that ultimately fail normally outside of the warranty period (And we know customer pay is more $$ in your pocket)
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I have had Whinning, Burning Smells, Intermittent Slippage, Screaching Sounds from two different transmissions in my Vehicle. Now this one dropped into failsafe mode, with no check engine light, no transmission control or engine control malfunction codes, no freeze frame datum, and 4 people riding in a vehicle that is locked into a single ratio setting of the transmission, with traffic going at 70+ mile per hour, at night, and I can get more than 40 to 45 mph so I can get off at the next rest area in 7 or 8 miles, and you tell me that Me and My Passengers are SAFE in this vehicle.
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I'm glad your not in Quality control and Hopefully your not making the decisions on my warranty service.
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I currently run an independent facility that prides itself on running every reported symptom to ground, with the best efforts of 100 years of automotive technical service that we have in the shop. We may not be able to duplicate it, nor fix it at times, but we never make Blatent Statements like the one you just made.
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Your "OPINION" is Noted, But Just like Opinions, Everyone has a Sphincter, and more than a few of them STINK>
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So, they are not admitting there is a pattern of failure, and if I can get it to act up in front of them, they will "More Than Likely" cover the repairs.
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OK, so it Trade in Time, and Bye Bye Nissan.
I hear Edsel may be making a comeback :surprise:
The problem with the CVT also affects the entire engine. The 120,000 mile, 10 year warranty should cover all related moving parts.
As far as dealers "white-washing" the "truth" in order to avoid costly repairs... nothing could be further from the truth. As I stated above, Nissan PAYS US to fix their cars. In the case of replacing a CVT transmission, they pay us over $3K. However, before I can spend their money, I have to offer them proof that there IS a problem. If I cannot duplicate a concern, real or not, I cannot get Nissan to pay for a repair.
Period.
I would have to say, that if this is true, AND you have had this happen with "two different transmissions in the car", that the problem is NOT in the transmission but in the transmission control module. But of course, this is an unsubstantiated guess, just like you're asking Nissan to make.