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I think the Focus is a nice car, and that torque vectoring is a neat concept.
The Impreza is good all around as well, and the visibility felt much better than on the Focus. My 8 year old son gave the Impreza a big thumbs up after sitting in the rear seat during back-to-back test drives on the two cars.
Having had it now for several days, I must say I really appreciate the great visibility on my long, mixed commute (for good measure, have taken out the headrests in the back and stored in a cargo net).
The side view mirrors are very well thought out. I also like the moonroof w/ deflector, and the alloy wheels on my premium hatchback.Am getting comfortable with the satellite radio and navigation interface as well.
The good engine response at low to medium speeds make the Impreza fun to drive just when the commute gets more dreary. The CVT works smoothly, no issues on a moderate downhill (on the Sunol grade on 680N in the SF East Bay).
So am happy with the decision in favor of the Impreza">
Duration from order to pick up = 9 weeks.
Paid $728 under invoice. Local dealers are now selling (the few they have) at MSRP.
Nobody has been able to figure out why it took so long for the car to get built and I'm hoping it gets here when it's supposed to so this can all end!
I'm thinking of getting body side moldings for my SP Hatch and was wondering if its worth it. No dings on the car yet, thank goodness. Also, is it easy to install or better to have the dealer or a professional do it. Looks pretty simple when I checked out youtube.
if you take the time to cut the holes out of the patterns provided, you should be able to get it perfect. we didn't, but still got it pretty spot on with two sets of hands.
if it weren't for the offered help, i certainly would rather take my time to do it right myself than pay the dealer $120+ they wanted.
key is: budget enough time, cut the holes suggested to hold the panel/guide securely in place, and have a second set of hands.
Seriously though, they're pretty easy as long as the prep work is done right. It's more tedious to get the template attached to the car than it is to attach the moldings themselves. I actually sat the edge of the templates along the door sill to keep them level from front to back. Attach both the front and back templates at the same; it allows you to check if they're level with each other.
I figured that the templates sitting on the sills makes the moldings sit a tad lower than trying to line them up along the bottom edge of the doors, but it looked like the sills were on the outermost edge of the door (serves their purpose better).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDksviUVhM
i definitely think it can be done solo if you follow directions. we (the tech at the shop was in a hurry) didn't bother to cut the holes which would allow an easier mounting of the templates. we just taped the top and bottom and i held the templates in place while he lined up the trims.
but yes, it's a fairly easier job and saved me $$$...much easier than the crazy homelink mirror i installed...
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/Vehicles/2012-subaru-impreza/
Should be interesting to follow for the next year.
Bob
Hard to believe in this day and age that the Limited model doesn't have at least a manual lumbar support.
And now the cops are after you for grant theft auto.
Nice deal!
The 10" sub (the stock Kicker one) rattles the hell out of it though, lol (same as the stock mirror).
for $50, that's a good deal. mine wanted over a $110+ more than the $162 i paid for the mirror, that's why i did the self install.
John
And ... I paid with $1800 in Subaru Bucks and put $2500 (max amount dealer allows) on my Subaru Chase CC to earn another $75 future bucks.
My Sport Limited either doesn't have it or it doesn't work. Anyone have a working indicator?
Only thing close is the high beam indicator.
I do see a green light with squiggly line in font come on when the fog light is on.
Although if you leave the fog lights on, you can use that indicator as a quasi "headlights on" indicator.
It would be nice to have the indicator because the auto on feature is not very sensitive (in my car anyway) and it's hard to tell if they come on when it's raining. The manual states that the dealer can adjust the sensitivity but I'd rather not have to go that route.
BTW, the current model Outbacks are ultra sensitive; they come on when going under small bridges.
It may be that the Impreza doesn't have that functionality.
Odie
The only option I got on my Camellia Red Sport Limited w/ MR was the cargo tray. May pick up a rear cargo net at some point.
calculated mileage: 39.3 mpg
car computer mileage: 39.0 mpg
However, i tracked my route on googlemaps, and it came out 4% longer than reported by my odometer. this was the first long route i've checked with gps or googlemaps, but it's consistent with my shorter trips previously compared against the odometer. if i correct for that 4%, the mileage on my 160 mile trip today was 41.1 mpg!
I'm curious to know what sort of mileage folks are getting out of the manual transmission....
Right now, I'm only seriously considering Fiesta and Impreza, but I'm having a hard time getting over the not-so-pleasing look of the Impreza. I still have to drive the Impreza (manual and auto), plus I really should take a look at the Mazda3 now that the SkyActiv models are available. Still, I'm quite familiar with Subaru, it is the only AWD of the bunch, and I have $2,500 in Subaru Bucks available.
Those do make for compelling arguments!
-Steve
I don't want to insult your wife, so I'll end there, Steve. I would hope that if she wants an MT car, something like this wouldn't sway her opinion.
Odie
It would be nice to have lumbar, but for the price of the Impreza, this is a smashing success. It's still hard for me to believe that it cost less than my 10 year old Forester and 10 year old $$ when new and is improved in all areas.
John
Based on the Crosstek specs, the 2013 Limiteds will probably get a back-up camera.
I've paid the same price (~$22,500) for my last 3 cars.
'96 Outback 4EAT - Base model w/ AWP, CD changer, trailer hitch
'03 Outback 4EAT - Base model (included AWP and single CD)
'12 Impreza Sport Limited w/ Moonroof (CVT, AWP, leather, etc)
76.6 vs 80.1 miles is a pretty big difference!
at least compared to my old car (honda civic) google maps matched my odometer on that car to within a small fraction of a percent.
- the airbag problem some people have had
- misprogrammed ECU/TCM
- maybe offer rear camera option
- something more elegant than the black curtain near the telescoping steering
....
Thanks,
Ray
Not seen the Scan Gauge, but have been using a Garmin Ecoroute HD for some months. This plugs into the OBD II port and uses Bluetooth to communicate to my Garmin GPS device. I have found prime use is modifying my driving behaviour as it throws up a series of detailed gauges. Fuel economy is improved a bit.
I had been worried whether water pump was near failing but water temperature is reporting consistently at 83 C so happy.
Cheers
Graham
I just used it to diagnose my wife's Sienna, and it has a proper place there, too.
Good to have, and it'll certainly show you the "(deg)FWT" water temperature, together with three other parameters, if you set it up that way.
BTW, when you turn the car on, you have to push the "gauge" button to see the four gauge parameters, otherwise it sits at the init screen.
Cheers -Mathias
I use a OBD scanner with bluetooth interface (~$19)
If you already have an android, iphone, tablet,or ipad, there are apps (lot of them free) that will talk to the OBD scanner and display temperature, and lots of other data.
I'm using an android app called torque. It can show oil, water temp.
Torque, hp, output. Do 0-60 time, and many more.
I basically had fun playing with it for a couple of weeks, then haven't use it much since then.
I doubt I would want it mounted on the dash for the long term.
I you have use for a ipod touch, tablet, smartphone, you might as well buy one of those gadgets that can interface with OBD bluetooth.
It's really fun to drive, but I noticed something disturbing, when I pulled into a friend's driveway, whic has a slight dip in front of the curb cut. I heard a noise, and found that the underside of the front bumper had scraped the edge of the curb. It doesn't show from the front, but bending down to look under the car I can see a definite scrape in the paint. Is there anything that can be used to protect that area of the bumper? This never happened with other cars, but the clearance seems very low, and curb cuts in New York City are not always the smoothest. I'm also thinking of ordering the rear bumper cover that flaps over the back, for safety when parking on the street.
Anyone else have ideas on protecting the finish in a city environment? I didn't get the bumper appliqué and don't know if that would offer enough protection.
This forum has been really helpful in the whole buying process, thanks!