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I have a Titanium 2.0 Ecoboost AWD. I am getting 17/20/23 after 3000 miles, rather than 21/24/28 as stated on the window - 20% less. My other concern is the huge drop in range because it's only a 15 gallon tank.
Take a look at a recent article this week regarding Hyundai/Kia...
Hyundai, Kia Overstate MPG, Will Compensate Owners...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hyundai-kia-overstate-mpg-compensate-220411168.htm- l
I purchased a 2013 Ford Escape Titanium AWD 2.0 Liter Ecoboost in August 2012.
Estimated MPG 21 City / 24 Combined / 28 Hwy
After 3,000 Miles: MPG 17 City / 20 Combined / 23 Hwy
This is 20% lower than the EPA on the Sticker with only a 15 gallon tank, the range is horrible!!!
Note: in the manual it states "Did you know you can get 15% better fuel economy if you drive 55 instead of 65 on the highway?" It would be quite upsetting if the car was tuned to drive far below the speed limit, putting drivers at risk in higher speed traffic as they try to achieve better fuel economy!!!
The first week I drove the car on a flat highway at 75 mph nonstop for a full tank of gas, and only calculated 23 mpg. Its never improved. I drive conservatively and never get close to 28 mpg on the highway. Watching the average mpg on the dash drop has caused me to tame my driving habits, but still no improvement. I believe I was getting 25mpg on the highway with Premium fuel. Many have said it's because ethanol in the gas drops mpg, but premium usually doesn't have ethanol. Will test again.
I purchased the Escape for an SUV with power, but also good fuel economy. I love everything else about the car - the looks, the technology, the seat comfort. However, if I knew this was the mileage I would be getting, I would have never purchased the Escape. There are plenty of SUV's available with more comfort, power, bigger gas tank, and for less money at 17/20/23.
Hyundai, Kia to pay 900,000 owners for overstating mileage on window stickers
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/hyundai-kia-pay-900-000-owners-overstatin- - - g-mileage-125024437.html
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2013 Ford Escape Titanium w/ MyFord Touch Sync
Strange..
Then there is the issue of Ford, seemingly, not having a clue as to how to go about fixing the CAC condensation poblem.
F-150s are extraordinarily heavy vehicles, nearly 3 tons of curb weigh for a fully optioned 4WD version.
You really can't drive a 3 ton vehicle even remotely assertively and expect to get anything but terrible mileage.
On the other hand, I've driven 2 different EB F-150s and far EXCEEDED the EPA figures. This verifies what pzam is saying. Mileage varies greatly by driver inputs. :shades:
There is also a strong smell of gas when the car idles.
Just want to know if others have experieced the same, and if the fuel ratings do in fact improve over time.
Thanks
I presume it has an oil life monitor? Follow that and you should be fine.
The dealer transferred my license plates from my old truck over to the Escape when I bought it and I didn't see them do it. I just removed the front license plate (as it's not required in my state) and was somewhat surprised to find that there's no real license plate "mount" for the front license plate. It looks like there's just a couple of holes in the plastic on the front bumper, almost like they were just drilled there and the screws for the front license plate were just screwed into those holes. Needless to say, it looks pretty unprofessional with the front license plate off. Can anyone else confirm whether this is the way that it's supposed to be, or (as I'm wondering) did my vehicle not come with a front license plate mount and my dealer did some kind of makeshift job of installing the front license plate?
The car is great to drive and a lot of fun. The touch system is not there yet as well as the gas mileage. Although mine has been improving (up to 19 mpg on the last fill combined mileage). Also, the small fuel tank limits the range quite a bit and is a small pain.
Lets hope that Ford does a software update to the system and things get better. Otherwise it will continue to be an unreliable and inconsistent system.
We were all sold on this vehicle for a great set of features.
An on those rare occasions where it works as designed, we love it.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the majority of the time.
This is my first domestic car purchase in the last 25 years after a bad experience with a Chevy. I won't be in a hurry to try that again!
Now having gone through this forum, it seems as if this model year of the Escape is loaded with problems. Can anyone please advise me whether or not we think the issues on this forum are typical of new cars, or do you guys think that the 2013 Escape has a higher than average problem rate and I should wait for a later model year to see if quality improves.
Unfortunately, I am dealing with an insurance total loss and need to make up my mind this weekend.
Thanks
I've also been reading that premium gas is recomenned for this vehicle. I wish I'd know all this before I purchased it. I would have kept on looking.....
I drive the same route to work every weekday, 1 mile city to a semi crowded freeway, 7 miles at 50-60 mph, with slow downs for slow and merging traffic and then 1 mile to my office, under those conditions my average is currently 25.5 to 26.3 mpg's and it was a little higher when temps were warmer. I took a road trip this summer from Minnesota to Louisiana, mostly on 2 lane highways, but some interstate and 4-lane bypass. I drove between 55 and 65 on the way down and I got as high as 38 mpg's, but generally got 34-36 mpg's. I'd say 75% of the time I was traveling 60-62 mph. I was told by the service manager at my dealership that the sweet spot for the 2.0L and the 6 speed transmission is 63 mph. On the way home from Baton Rouge to Minneapolis I drove Interstate the entire way and depending on the weather (it rained for the stretch through LA and MS), at the speed limit of 70 or 2 mph above, I got 33 mpg and as much as 36 mpg at slightly slower speeds. Whenever I drive the Interstate I use the cruise control, except in hilly terrain and drive 2 mph above the posted, I anticipate when I'll need to pass slower traffic and pass well in advance of the cars traveling fast in the left lane. I accelerate slowly and evenly and try to never go below what my cruise is set at. When I have to cancel the cruise and resume, I accelerate evenly to speed and then resume the cruise rather than hitting resume and having the engine rev to speed.
I enjoy a good road trip and have traveled coast to coast and border to border multiple times and over the years I have developed a good driving style. Unless there is something obviously wrong with your car, decent mpg's are attainable with a consistent and conservative driving style.
But that is NOT what the EPA intends nor do they test for.
I will probably never own an EcoBoost for numerous reasons but if I did the first thing I would do is change the "gain" of the gas pedal position as it relates to throttle plate position. I suspect, strongly so, that the throttle plate reaches the WOT position with about 1/2 gas pedal depression. From that point on the turbo speed is regulated and thereby used to provide the engine throttling (un-throttling??) function.
I think I would begin by "wiring" the wastegate fully open and drive that way for a reasonably long period. Long enough to determine just how good the FE might be even with a detuned (10:1 compression ratio vs the DFI standard of 12-14:1) DFI engine and no turbo boost. Also get an idea of the level (enough?) of HP/torque with no boost.
Here's Why Real-World MPG Doesn't Match EPA Ratings
"If you are currently an aggressive driver (cruising speeds from 75-85 mph, constantly accelerating and changing lanes and braking sharply) and you decided to calm down (driving with the cruise control set to 65 mph), your fuel economy would improve an average of 35 percent."
Save Gas with Smart Driving and Slick Aerodynamics
People who complain that they are getting bad fuel economy never want to blame themselves, so there must be something wrong with the car.
But I live in the deer infested two lane boonies and only get to drive 80 once every few months and it's kind of fun to bomb down the Interstate sometimes.
Agreed. Just because modern vehicles have the ability to go faster when you mash the accel pedal, doesn't mean everyone has to actually drive faster.
If we looked at an old Ford similar in size, like a Bronco ii, it got horrible mileage by comparison, and did not have the capability of being as fast.
If a person used the same amount of speed in the Escape that was available in the Bronco ii, then the Escape will obviously get better mileage.
If the Escape user gives the car the same accelerator application, it will a) go faster than its predecessors and b) get unsatisfactory mileage.
The downside to more powerful engines is that YES, one does have to baby the accelerator to get better mileage.
On older automatic trans vehicles, you had to basically mash the accelerator to even start moving. Not so anymore, so it takes a gentler touch than many may be used to.
The way I drove my 1978 F-150 is vastly different from how I drive my 2011 F-150. It is literally difficult to accelerate as slowly as my 78 Ford could at full throttle in a modern truck.
How so? Well, the pedal pressure that I have to apply to the M35 to get to a certain speed feels much harder than on the Escape. In other words and this might be totally subjective, I feel I have to press the accelerator pedal much harder in the M35 than on the Escape in order to reach the same level of acceleration.
Based on my experience then I would have to say that Ford has made it much easier to accelerate on the Escape by setting a lower pedal pressure calibration on this car versus my M35. Consequently, given the spirited performance of this car, it is much easier to waste gas by accelerating faster than normal compared my other car.
As said before, this is my observation based on the performance of the two cars I own. So for what its worth, it is easier to waste gas and mpg's on the Escape than on my M35.
freeway 24mpg, I would say i am a hair aggressive, puts me where I thought I would be, im glad i didnt need the premium unleaded to get it. And yes I hit the turbo quite often... No reason to drive like a turtle to get those specs. If you do and are getting bad mpg, the easiest thing to check esp in the cooler weather is the PSI in your tires, make sure they match the door, you wont hurt anything buy adding 2 psi, your mpg will improve, i have never balded the center of my tires by doing this.
The my touch works well for me, a hair sluggish, but it is a PC, and thats expected.
Someone asked about the oil life, I didnt see an answer.. we have an oil life monitor, but I dont see where to check the life percentage.. im sure a light comes on when its close, but I would still like to monitor.
Overall love the car MPG are close to what I expected, radio/mytouch was too
i do not like the 19" tires, the ride is fine, but look up prices on new shoes, I am not looking forward to that