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Here in Northern Cal, CL's are an excellent bargain. We paid under invoice for ours last year. I always see them advertised at very good prices at reputable dealers (none of that "1 at this price" crap.)
THANKS,VINNY
You asked the best way to use the transmission. I answered. That's the way I use it, because I feel it's the best way.
Now, if they would only get rid of that stupid gated pattern.
The shiftronic might come in handy if you're driving uphill in a snowstorm, while trying to pass a truck, and towing a boat. Otherwise, jam the gas pedal, and it downshifts by itself.
15,100 miles in 14 months and not one single problem. My old Chrysler 300M group was right- this car is BORING! NOTHING to complain about like my 99 300M!!!!! Never a dull moment with Christine from day one until 33 months later when I got rid of her!
Time for another oil/filter change and a tire rotation.
fastdriver
Wow. Another 1000 miles went by already?
Sounds like the catalytic converter "tingling".
fastdriver
PS Forget to mention in above message- BEST car I've ever owned and I have about 18 coats of Zaino on it!! ;-))
... that's too much Zaino ...
I'd bring it in to the shop immediately.
Bring the car in to a reputable shop right away, to find out for sure what the noise is. (An Acura dealer if it's still under warranty.)
LOL... Nope. Had the Zaino, then bought the CL-S! Eighteen coats is nothing in 14 months if you know anything about Zaino. Love that Z shine!
fastdriver
VINNY
I am looking for help. My parents are almost set on getting me a 2002 Nissan Pathfinder, however I am in love witht he Cl Type S, which they are also considering. My parents asked me to give reasons why it would be better for me to get the Acura instead of the Pathfinder. Can someone please give me reasons why I should get the 3.2 Cl Type S instead of the Pathfinder, so I can tell my parents. If you seem to disagree and think I should get the Pathfinder please tell me why. Thanks
(That's why I hate rich people. One of the reasons, anyway.)
nhl: I think gary does have a point in regard to both of those vehicles being excessive. But I think the Pathfinder would offer less of a temptation for you to get into trouble. The CL-S is designed for one thing -- to go fast. And I don't know if kids should be given that kind of arsenal. (I'm assuming you're a young guy. If you're, say, 30, then we might have a different problem)
Thanks
... why do you want a CL instead of a RSX? I'm curious. Yes, the Pathfinder and the CL are both nice, and refusing either would be, um, not smart.
Bottom line, the CL-S is a performance coupe and (taking a wild guess here) you may not be ready for a 260hp FWD car. The pathfinder (IMO) is a pretty boring vehicle. The base CL is a perfect compromise.
Interestingly enough, my mother was keen on the idea of me driving a Subaru wagon or a Ford Explorer around ... thinking that sedans or coupes aren't "safe" ... I'm not going to diss AWD Subaru wagons here, as they have good driving dynamics compared to a lot of sedans, but in a small coupe, you can avoid the stupid, lumbering Ford Exploders... while the Pathfinder is a well-built machine, it's still a truck.
Safety wasn't a 'big issue' for me. Haven't heard of Acuras engulfing in flames or rolling over the way Fords do... Integra/RSX or CL is plenty safe. In general, cars simply drive better than trucks, meaning that you can avoid problems before they occur on the expressway by using that steering wheel. If you try some stunts with any truck, you're going end up on your back at 80 mph. NOT pleasant.
Driving around in a spiffy new Corvette that wasn't mine, a friend and I decided to stop by and test drive the CL-S 6-speed on a wonderful summer afternoon. Sunshine, some cash in the pocket, and fast cars... felt young again
Anyway, the CL-S brochure states pretty explicitely that the CL-S's differential transfers torque to the outer wheel on cornering. It did not say if it is active or not. If active, that's the Prelude's ATTS system, period. If it's passive, i.e. it lets the wheels spin at different rates if they feel like it, thereby resulting in more torque being presented to the outside wheel than the inside wheel, then that's just a differential. However the brochure wasn't clear and the salesmen had no clue either way and seemed happy insisting that it must be "better than whatever was in the Honda because this is an Acura and they're better, you know." Uh, ok salesguy.
That said, this was a great car. I've been starting to think about the second car I'm going to need around September or so, and the TL has been on the list of "cars to look at" for a while. Sans the six speed on the TL-S, though, the new CL-S might have to take its place. I didn't sense a hint of torque steer, and it had effortless power compared to the two Hondas (Prelude, S2000) that I have experience with. It also had what seemed like the same short throw shifter and light clutch pedal of the S2000... almost identical. Very nice. If only the ride height weren't so sedan-like!
I also was impressed by the front seats automatically motoring forward to permit passengers to jump into the rear, and especially impressed by the relatively ample space there. I'm 6'1" and felt pretty comfortable in the back. If it has ATTS... then lower it an inch or two, and that's the Prelude successor right there.
I've never even sat in an Infiniti so I can't speak on that.
Equal price, I wouldn't know whether to take a BMW 330Ci or the six-speed CL-S. That would be a tough decision. Factor in the price decision and it's a no-brainer.
I haven't tried the 6-speed, but IMO, the CL-S has to lose some bulk and weight to be a Prelude replacement. (The G35 coupe actually has the ideal dimensions)