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I heard that Ford may be having problems with parts being flown in, so I don't know if DC is having the same problems.
I thought that was a really good price. I'd just have to get abs and pay a little over $22,000.
Matt
Anyone thinking about putting on Xenon lights on the Liberty? Also, any neat tricks u can do with the liberty? Please post!
-Dave
What about air bags, does anyone have a liberty with side airbags?
I've noticed a strange metallic grinding sound coming from somewhere. It's not constant, or really loud, but it is noticeable.
Also, there's a wind whistle when driving on the interstate with all the windows closed.
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
The best thing you can probably do is to have (HID Xenon, if you wish to spend a bit more money) auxilary driving lamps installed so that you can turn them on whenever you wish. It should look fitting on a Jeep afterall :-)
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I'm eagerly anticipating joining the Liberty fold and by all the buzz on this board, it looks like there are many happy Liberty owners out there.
I'm still deciding whether to get the Command-Trac or the Select-Trac. I own a bare-bones 1990 Cherokee with 185k. It has shift on the fly, naturally, and found while livng in New England that it had a propensity to fish tail in sloppy snow unless 4x4 was engaged.
Anyone thoughts on pros/cons of two systems would be helpful.
Also ABS would be a new luxury to me. Some feedback on its virtues and drawbacks would be appreciated, as well.
Cheers.
I just test drove a Liberty Limited and it handled nicely, had good, not great pickup (My last two vehicles had 5.0 engines) and turned and generally was a nice vehicle. I live in NYC and so I had more than a few pot holes to try it out on, and the Liberty handled them all quite nicely, dulling the worst of them well and erasing the smaller ones totally. Dealer was laughing at me swerving into them.
Any help on the codes issues would be great.
Regarding the lights... thanks for the information. I will certainly investigate a HID conversion. If anyone has done this on their Liberty, please share your experience.
Regarding the lights, I wasn't referring to a conversion, but rather HID Xenon auxilary driving lamps. HID conversions for the headlamps are not legal and not particularly good since the headlamp assemblies were not designed for those special HID bulbs in mind.
You can have a look at Hella's light tunnel to see the (drastic) difference between HID Xenon driving lamps and halogen driving lamps:
http://www.hella.com/maineng/lev1b/lev2ba/lev3bab/lev4baba/index.htm
I hope this helps!
Drew
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P.S. What sort of bulbs does the Liberty use for its headlamps? You could also consider changing to E-code (European spec) headlamps which will give you a better cutoff, but not necessarily better brightness.
It will probably help with the resale value when your ready for a new vehicle down the road. In fact, you could probably get most of your money back.
Bob
drew_ "4WD & AWD systems explained" Feb 5, 2001 8:24pm
CommandTrac = Part-time 4WD
SelectTrac = Full-time 4WD
Drew
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Command Trac has:
4WD Low (part-time), 4wd High (part-time), 2WD and Neutral.
Selec Trac has:
4WD Low (part-time), 4wd High (part-time), 4WD High (full-time), 2WD and Neutral.
Part-time 4WD can only be used on slippery surfaces, and is used in difficult traction conditions. Low-range 4WD is used only in the most severe traction conditions. Full-time 4WD can be used on any surface, anytime.
Bob
Anyone have any specifics to add for a Liberty?
Steve
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-mad
PS: You'll love it. Awesome vehicle, no problems at all. Liberty Sport, Selectrac, Patriot Blue 4x4.
In another matter, I'm disappointed to see that ABS is not a standard feature on the Liberty. (It should be.) Was wondering if most Liberty owners have found the anti-lock brakes to be a "must-have" option. I'm looking to streamline options to keep costs down but don't want to cut corners on safety. Are the ABS worth the extra $600.
Bob
This explanation will help you out:
drew_ "4WD & AWD systems explained" Feb 5, 2001 8:24pm
Hope this helps!
Drew
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Bob
Drew
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I do agree, it's a marketing issue, not a mechanical issue.
Bob
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I just drove a test drove a Liberty, which I really liked. My wife is making fun of me because she thinks the styling is too young and cute for a 42 year old father (I really was after a Cherokee, but the Liberty is so superior in ride, handling, comfort and seems much more solid than the Cherokee...) I think it is an impressive piece of work and I'm in the position to support the American economy right now by buying a new car.
So, tell me, have any of you gotten this response? Is the Liberty destined to be a 20-something woman's SUV? Am I going to be the only out-of-touch middle age guy driving one?
Probably. ;-)
What's wrong with 'young and cute', anyway?
ejp
Oh, hell. All the little SUVs are cute. At least this one's unique. Anyone know if there is a package that includes selec-trak and ABS? Hoping to order with those features and would love to get a package deal...
FYI, the dealer in my area is selling just under invoice (must be a dealer incentive). Is that pretty good?
FYI. I am OK with a 42-year-old father to get a Liberty.
As for the ABS, that doesn't come with any of the pkgs (unless they've changed that) but is available for all levels (Sport/Limited) Good luck!
It may look cute but I'm impressed with it.
Gotta admit, the Flame red Liberty looks sharp but my wife out voted me and we got the Woodland brown instead. Glad we did. Still love my Wrangler too.