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By the way, did you ever get the hoist for your garage?
Seat warmers huh bama? Are you the guy that came to a dealer near me a couple of years ago and ordered a Jeep with power windows, seat warmers etc. but he either didn't get financing or changed his mind. The sticker price was over 30,xxx....wow.
Haven't sold the car yet the woman wants to have a mechanic check it out so......I'm patiently waiting.
Well folks, come to Gill's when ya can we welcome the old crew and the newbies
Hug your Jeeps for me
dwrangler
I didnt get seat warmers.. I would like too..
at 3:30 in the AM its still cool out there.
And i've got the hoist on order..
I've lost your email D, i havent forgot about ya.
You can click on my name to emial me, or you can post it.
picked up mirror relocation brackets, cause this year im taking the doors off.
Keep Jeepin
BAMA
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I am totally mystified by the appearance of the Mitsubishi Mirage on that list. Who drives those? I'm not even sure there ARE 1000 of them on American roads.
The dealer had 6 adhesive backed templates with my VIN that he stuck to the two side windows and the windshield. He then pulled an acid pen out of his pocket that looked like a magic marker and dabbed at each template a bit. After the last one was finished he went around and pulled the templates off starting with the first one put on. The whole process took less than 5 minutes. The instructions I was given was to not roll down my windows for an hour as it might smear the etching. I asked if I needed to wash it off later and was told no. It looked like a pretty simple process and was quite quick.
One of the glass companies in town told me that a store called Hobby Lobby has a glass etching kit and that you could do it yourself. That could be an option for folks that might get a break on their insurance and with the CNN report who knows.
Sounds like it might be worth checking in to.
I think I would play with some glass before I tried to do my Jeep (do a friend's Jeep first).
Finally got my spare tire put on last night by the tire company. The wheel and the tire were in the same place at the same time so they were able to get it mounted, balanced, and mounted on the rear.
I am a happy camper.
Also, I am considering getting a performance catback. I've seen them from Borla, Jardine, and Gibson. Anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks
I recently purchased a 2002 X model with Trac Lock. At the time of purchase I thought if you got the Trac lock you automatically got the 373 ratio. Now I'm not so sure. How do I tell which ratio I have ?
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-twylie
actually ive NEVER heard of it before..
Is this a STATE thing or just a personal thing.
I dont thinkI would want my VIN on my window
THEFT. I dont get it.. every car I get seems to get in the top 5.. I had a Cutlass ..hmm that was #2 then.. Camaro.. #1 Now Wrangler..
I must like the same car the thieves do..
Still no luck on getting this payment thing worked out. I was on phone with them for an HOUR today yelling at them
To my records I am paid up through JUNE..
but nooo they said If I dont make my MAY payment i will get late fees..
OK I get penalized for their goof.
It sure was easy for them to deposit into wrong account. But it takes a over a MONTH to take it out? Take 2 steps forward take 3 back..
WHEW
Goin crazy!
Bama
Bama - there has always been a possible insurance savings if you etch your windows. My only thought was that if someone really wanted it they would probably break that window to get your car! So I've never had it done. But maybe next time, if it will really save me money on the insurance!
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Let em have it bama
Cross your fingers folks I've got another person interested in my car.....if it sells soon it may not be much longer to Jeeper's heaven
Hug your Jeeps for me...til I get mine
dwrangler
The Renegade was out then I guess, but I don't remember much about them. I do remember the Levi seats around that time but they would have been out of my price range.
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Bama, I save about $200 a year on my insurance for having the windows etched. Another insurance company that I talked with does not offer a discount for etching in TX. I guess you would want to ask before you did it. Oh yea, let me know what kind of car you are going to buy next so that I can be certain not to buy the same thing. Would like to keep my rates down by not having a vehicle that the thieves like.
Mtngal, I figured the side windows might be broken out also if the vehicle is stolen. That is why I think it is crazy that the insurance company only wants to see two windows etched. Even if they break the windows I still save that $200 a year on the insurance. The other program that I am in has engine and body parts etched which I think would be more realistic in aiding in the recovery of the vehicle.
My favorite commercials of the bunch: an early 70s Levi's edition CJ5 commercial with several groovy girls parking their rears into the back seat of the Jeep, and especially the mid-60s Jeep Commando commercial with the Marlboro-voiced announcer telling you the Commando has "GUTS! Takes you wherever you need to go! GUTS! with a tough 6-cylinder engine! GUTS!" etc etc.
Dewars
Fun heritage link, Ducks.
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DWRANGLER..ive got the cashed money order I faxed it to them today. Stopped by my dealer today to check on lift, he gave me someone to call that will light someones fire.
I wish u well on seling that firechicken
Ok.where do you do this etching..very small?
to me thats gotta look tacky with your VIN so everyone can see it.
Hey OCEAN. belive me pal I'll let everyone know
what my next car will be..
Keep Jeppin!!
Bama!!
The etching I have is fairly small. The VIN is maybe a quarter of an inch in height and maybe two inches long. I really don't notice it that much and it is maybe a half inch from the bottoms of my side windows. The windshield is also etched, but it is so low you can not see it from the inside.
Remember that your VIN is already out there for the world to see. Just look down through the windshield at the dash and you can see the VIN plate.
Bama, I would check first with the insurance company to see if they will accept it and how much it might save you. I checked to see what a security system would save me and it would take me several years to break even.
Seems like a person could pick up some pocket change if they could get good at etching windows. $50 a pop for a person to save $200 a year? Sounds like a reasonable charge to me.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291863031
Of course, if you aren't into this type of scenery, then a Wrangler might not be a good idea...
Mtngal you got a great set of pictures. I liked the one with the dog peering over the snow.
I take it you don't "etch" the plastic zip out windows at all, right? Does just the windshield count?
2.
3 in back seat looked possible to me. Like to make it 4? ;-)
3.
That was the peering, with an "R", right? ;-)
4.
Who cares if people know the VIN? What difference does it make? Ask for social security number, and I'll tell you it is against federal law to even ask for it. VIN? No problem!
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I think most glass companies will do etching for you. Also, in MA, the state police will sometimes offer services or special days when they do this for a modest fee of maybe $5-$10.
If they offered a Levis package on the TJ with a blue top and seats and the Levi's logo on the side, I'd buy one. I'm a 501s kinda guy. Actually I think it'd be a good deal for both Jeep and Levis. Levis has been losing market share to the younger crowd for years, yours truly excepted. How better to get them noticed by youth than to stick their logo on the side of a Wrangler? Of course, I'm a 31-yr-old Gen-Xer, so what do I know about the youth market.
1)take the Sahara seats and make them a solid medium blue with Levis red tags
2)the Levis edition should be soft-top only. Get Bestop to make some TJ soft tops in the blue they currently offer for the CJ-5 and CJ-7 replacement tops.
3)put the Levis logo where the "sport" or "sahara" logo goes on the side of the Jeep.
4)make the dash plastics in a special dark blue, the same color I've seen used on some Sebring convertibles.
5)limit the outside color choices to green, blue, or white.
Any takers here?
not sure about the blue dash.. but hey..
I do understand. Dont forget LEVI tire cover...
OCEAN.. Thanx for the info I am gonna look into it
I cant believe ive never heard of this window etching before. BUT..if it saves on Insurance,
I'm all for that.
Keep Jeepin
Bama
I used to buy levis until the boycott. Now I buy Carhartt.
What boycott? Who's boycotting Levis?
http://www.jeep.com/news_features/heritage/popups/cj5_53/img/CJ-5_ad.jpg
I've actually preferred the older dashes to the TJ one, simply because the TJ is longer and I sometimes hit my lower leg on it if I have the seat a little too close. I had to get used to stretching to get the clutch in all the way (actually a good idea anyway, since I'm so short and I was probably sitting too close to the airbag anyway).
I think the thing that impressed me the most about the old CJ was when I watched a friend of mine in Arizona. They had been wheeling and brought back one of the muddiest vehicles I've ever seen - both inside and out. All they did was hose it out to clean it up (no carpet in those days). I thought that was really cool!
-twylie
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Those rocker guards are really nice looking and they are heavy! They should provide some real protection and make Thelma Jane look better at the same time. I don't know when I will install them. My garage has no electricity, and I have no floor jack to use to hold the rocker guards in place while I mark the spots to drill. (DRILL! Can you guys imagine old Tom taking a drill to Thelma Jane???)
Trey, thanks for the link to the write up on installing the rocker guards. I have printed out those instructions. The guards are not complicated to install, but the guy who wrote that article has added some good, practical tips to the original instructions.
I know I am not going to try to install the Kilby by myself when it comes in, so I might wait on the rocker guards and see if I can get my wheelin' buddy to help me install the rocker guards and the Kilby in one work session. He has access to a huge shop with all kinds of tools. That's where he put that lift on Thelma for me.
We were supposed to have set a record low temperature here last night. It was suppposed to get down to the lower 40's! It rained all night the night before last and all day yesterday, so you can imagine how pleasant it has been around here lately. Today is overcast and cold.
Gill's has been down the last three nights, and I haven't heard from him as to what is wrong. Don't give up, you guys. Keep trying to get in there, and it will come back up eventually.
In the mean time, let's chat on AIM (AOL Instant Message). Most of the gang that goes to gills have AIM. If you don't have it, you can download it from AOL's home page. It is free, and you can still use it, even if you don't have AOL. Put me on your buddy list as "tjoh298765" and holler at me when you see me online.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Since my last post I have installed a 2.5 inch Heavy Duty OME suspension on my jeep which netted me 3 inches in height. I just put on 33x10.5 BFG A/T KO Tires with my Canyon Wheels. I have also bought a hardtop and hard upper sliders for my half doors which I use in the winter months.
Heres a link to a picture of how my "Tonkajeep" looks now.
http://www.newlift.homestead.com/ome.html
That TonkaJeep is LOOKIN' GOOD!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
that jeep is looking good... u gooo tonks
Tsjay..
Mr Trail rider..your ready for the great outdoors now arent ya..
Ive been wondering about gills..Has he gave up on it?
I gotta download AIM again.. not working for me
twylie
thanks for the info on the cleaner, im gonna look into it
BAMA
Post a pic when you put the sliders on - I really would like to see them on. Have you used them? What do you think?
I gotta protect Thelma Jane if I am gonna wheel her. Wish I had the bucks to spend to get an oil pan skid, but that will have to wait.
When ya gonna come wheel with me, Kev?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Poor Old Gill sure hasn't had any luck with that web site. He is working long hours with all the irons he has in the fire, and he has had to restore that site about six times or more because of getting hacked or having storms take it out.
Let's email him and ask him to bring it back up when he can find the time. I don't think we have thanked him nearly enough for all the time and money he has put into that site. He needs to know that we appreciate him.
Use the following email address, and not the one that is part of the web site.
gblue@oppcatv.com
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
http://www.keepandbeararms.org/boycott_levis.htm
but apparently there are other boycotts of them as well:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&q=boycott+Levi&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.homestead.com/njccw/nationalccw.html
(about half way down)
I will watch for you to appear on my Buddy List and send you an invitation as soon as you show up.
Hope we have a good crowd.
If you don't have AIM, please download it from the AOL home page, and then holler at me so I can add you to my buddy list and invite you to the buddy chat.
I am tjoh298765 on AIM.
See you guys at 7, I hope.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
P.S. Who are my buddies? All of you. Everyone is welcome.
Come on everyone! You don't have to be stylishly late.
Tom