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Make sure that vibration you feel and hear is not your load leveling suspension activating when you start your car. Mine comes on every time at start up and if I didn't know better I'd also think it was some sort of loose metal vibrating on something. However it should only last about a minute or two before it stops.
With the GM800, there is increased plant capacity, mainly Arlington Texas coming online last year. as a result there are more unsold units in the marketplace.
As a result of this, there is PLENTY of supply for all models in question, making it possible to get a great deal on whatever you choose.
Simple supply and demand folks.
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Steve
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you should be able to download the owner's manual - it is large 2129k - for the 2000 Expy.
http://www.g33ks.org/XOG/index2.html
A lot of the info is old, and its not visited too often, but there's a wealth of information out there and some nice pics of owner's Expys.
More importantly, who took the manuals? Most of the time it was the rental car company that had the vehicle before you! Hence the reason that the dealer cannot tell you the code either.
Much to my surprise, there were "loaded" 2000 EB's in the Hertz fleet last summer, sounds like thats what you might have.
Here's a link to the NHTSA ratings:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/NCAP/SaferCar2000/table1.html#suv
Here's a link to IIHS, but they have yet to test full-size SUVs:
http://www.hwysafety.org/
The only safety rating that might alarm you is the potential rollover rating recently published by the government. On a scale of 1-to-5, where 1 is bad and 5 is good, all SUVs and 4x4 trucks tested rated a 1 or 2, with a few trucks rated a 3.
Think about it, you could fly to Denver, save a boat load of money, have a vacation on the way home and STILL be putting several thousand bucks in the bank.
Or, ask satch5 where he's getting such a killer deal. Maybe you could ahve more fun than visiting Denver.
However, if you live at sea level, won't be towing or hauling, and seldom visit high altitudes, then the 4.6 could work OK for you. Plus, your mileage will be a bit higher with the 4.6.
BTW- I test drove both and noticed ZERO difference in noise. Both were/are pretty quiet.
It is the nicest truck on the planet!
31k for a new EB is a unbelievable deal. Is there something going on? Is this a demo? Invoice or just above (500 or so) is fair but below invoice price?? I think you have to get the side air bags to get the reverse sensing unit.
4.6 v 5.4
You definetly want the 5.4 V8. You will never regret it. The 5.4 is just nearly not enough power for the truck or "tank" although I am very happy with mine, but a 4.6 is very sluggish
Wood Trim
Anybody added wood trim to their Expedition? What are your thoughts?
1. come to Connecticut, I personally have a connection w/a dealership in ffld county that would do a nickel ($500) over (invoice)and you would keep the rebate. At last I checked it was $1500.00.
2. There are a bunch of VERY clean '00's (including mine) that can be obtained in the low $30's with correct miles etc.
These trucks depreciate like rocks, why not buy one a few months old and save some significant cake?
Keep in mind the folks in the midwest are buying 4x2 units, they are about $2800 less expensive than a 4x4.
Wonder why Ford is "throwing in the trailer hitch" this year? Think about it and anything that might have the mis-fortune of hitting an Expo from behind w/o the hitch.
Just don't be stupid and drive w/o a belt or drive the thing like a car, because it is not.
I guess that means I'll have to drive the Vette more often
Also, I wanted the 4.6, got the 5.4. I love the 5.4, great power. I do not even pull anything.
Finally, increasing gas prices are tough. That is one of the big disadvantages of these vehicles.
Have a great summer, everyone!
Steve
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I have been watching gauge lately and have gotten strange results. Seem more like the tank sensor is out of wack. Any ideas about what is going on?
Finally, what is the true "invoice" price, the base invoice price, or the invoice price including the options. Also is the destination charge included when calculate invoice price?
I believe that the Limited slip option is mated up to the 3.73 rear (3.55 is std.), something that I would recommend with the 4.6 and the larger wheels. I know that I specifically did not get it due to the effect that it would have on fuel economy. When you get a whopping 12.2 mpg, every little bit counts.
Satch 5- Prehaps you should have asked these questions before ordering your new truck! Don't get caught up in the lingo, you will only confuse yourself. Go onto edmunds new vehicle page and calculate the invoice price based on the vehicle that you ordered using their figures. They are correct. The destination IS part of the invoice and is NOT marked up 12%. The dealer pays it, and so do you. Once you arrive at the figure, deduct the $1500 rebate if it applies. This will give you your invoice price to work from.
As far as title and license, that does seem a bit high for my state. Usually there is a $199 total bullsh!t doc fee added into the reg fee that will make the total figure as high as $300, but never is it as high as what you quoted. Again, it depends on the state in which you register in.
Good luck
Our 2001 EB Expedition is no longer a virgin! Took it 4-wheeling every day we were in Moab. It worked great on the trails we chose. Granted, these were NOT truly difficult, like "Metal Masher", but were tough enough for me, thank you. Low range isn't as low as other 4x4s I've driven, but it worked well on steep, rocky climbs.
The Hummer club was staying at our hotel. About 35-40 Hummers, most of them black (?). These dudes 4-wheel in style! About a third of them were TRAILERED to Moab on 18-wheelers! YES, there were FOUR 18-wheeler flat beds in the parking lot that were loaded with Hummers on Sunday night for the ride home. One dude had his own rig: a Ford Super-Duty, with a Harley in the bed, pulling a flat-bed trailer with his Hummer and spare tires. The club had three full-time mechanics and their fully-equipped trailer at the hotel, and they were all busy after a trail run. Lots of them had Lincolns and Cadillacs to drive to dinner. Amazing how much damage can be done to an $80K vehicle in one day! But, I guess if you have so much money you don't know what to do with it, a Hummer is just another boy's toy.
Gas in Moab was the cheapest on the trip, at $1.65 per gallon. Gas in Eagle, CO was $1.99 per gallon. This was for 85 octane regular.
We averaged about 15 MPG for the whole trip.
Dealer says Ford will be flying us to Dearborn for the event. He says we will be meeting the Expy design team and walking down the line as our truck is built (47 minutes)!
Should be an interesting trip - I'll keep the group posted, as it develops.
Thanks.
Phil in N'awlins