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What is this thing worth?
bobbybuche
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ok two months ago i got ahold of a 1959 t-bird but its got a really rare option that ford added called a parade car which means it has a snap on leather top and behind the rear seats and before the trunk is made of fiberglass so you could sit on it during parades and not dent the metal. it only has 67000 miles and i am almost done restoring the engine but everything on the car is original matching numbers and its in great shape. i just cant find one for sale anywhere and ford wont get back up with me to tell me how few they made somebody please help me out on the price or if youre interested thanks.
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If it were a provable documented prototype and had some presentation or show history, that could be very interesting and worth extra $$$.
But without any hard evidence (photos, testimonials from the creators) etc., all you have is a customized car---so it might even be worth less than a normal '59 Bird.
Basically you'd have to prove that it was some kind of show car used by Ford, and you'd have to have pix of the car doing that.
I can't address authenticity because I don't know--that's where you, the detective, comes in, but I can only tell you that without documents and photos you don't have anything to base value upon. Speculation and conjecture will not translate into value.
Why don't you post a photo? You can link to your own photo site if you have one or you can upload photos to your own www.carspace.com page (which you create by joining Carspace.com) and then link your personal Carspace page to this forum.
what's it worth?
olds_MAN69
Is is a coupe or convertible?
If a 442 does it have the W30 option?
If just a Cutlass S, what condition is it in, from #4 (runs but kinda shabby) to #3 really clean driver to #2 local show car quality to #1 show car.
With gasoline costing $6-$8 per gallon in Europe, who can afford to drive old Detroit iron? It would cost a couple of dollars just to back one of those carburated beasts down the driveway, with a cold engine and the choke wide open. On the other hand, if you only drive to a car show once or twice a year it wouldn't be a big deal.
That's what's changed - it sounds like the demand for second/third tier cars is dropping. Lots of hobby cars out there, ready to come on the market, but lots of the hobby money has evaporated.
So supply and demand is working as usual on the nicer items, but demand is slipping on lower end cars, projects, home-built rods, plain-jane cars, etc.
I saw a really REALLY nice 4-door Chrysler go begging at $3,500. Nobody wants this stuff anymore it seems.
People are unloading no doubt about it--but the Europeans can't take it all, and don't want it all, so prices will drop accordingly.
As for the Europeans affording to drive these cars, they aren't being bought by guys hanging out in Munich beer halls. These buyers are affluent. The EU is going gangbusters right now. They own a larger percentage of the global marketplace than we do at the moment. A weak dollar has a lot of negative effects for us at home, but apparently good effects for classic car dealers shipping overseas (or anyone selling overseas actually).
You have to think of the Euros shopping here and everything being sold at 25% off retail (for them). It's bargain day in the USA!
Ooh, that made my ears perk up. Andre wants details.
Actually, for some twisted reason, I've been in the mood lately for a '57-58 DeSoto or Chrysler 4-door hardtop. I always thought these were pretty cars.
Even for common cars like fintails...if you look through the registers in German clubs, many are from the US.
http://www.kruse.com/results/detail.asp?CONSIGN=1058&MAKE=Duesenberg&AUC_CODE=AU- BFALL07&AUC_BREAD=Auburn%2C%20IN%202007&SEARCH_NAME=Duesenberg&YEAR=2007&RESULTS- =1&PAGE=1
I imagine though, that it would be worth about the same as an equivalent condition sedan of similar vintage. While that Limo would have been a much more expensive car when new, there just isn't much demand for them used. They'll often get snatched up by livery companies, put into service, and then run into the ground, so there's some demand for them as business vehicles. But probably not once they get to a certain age. Then, on the vintage market, there's only so much demand for something like this. They take up a lot of storage space, are cumbersome to drive, and a lot of the unique trim parts are hard to find.
You might want to try contacting a professional car club if you're interested in selling it. You'd have more of a target audience there. This site may be of help: http://www.professionalcar.org/
the thing is im 17 years old, and I know nothing about cars and I was wondering if someone could tell me how much it is worth, since it is a classic and all..
oh yeah, and its 2 wheel drive, 2 door, no power steering or windows or locks, but yeah im sure you guys knew that....
thanks!
thanks!
This isn't surprising, since prices of many asset classes have been declining. The exceptions are oil, precious metals and grains, but not classic cars.
"For most of these big-engine Detroit machines from the 1960s and early 1970s, prices have fallen by 10% to 15% over the past two years, but for some, the damage has been far worse A 1971 Plymouth Barracuda, with a hemi engine, fetched $396,000 -- impressive, but about half of what one sold for in 2006."
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Not like we are talking about a very rare Bentley Speed Six here.
The rare old precious stuff that is eligible for historic events will maintain good value I think, but anything "modern", with rare exception, is going to take further hits for a while at least.
It's still all about supply and demand, once you wipe out the speculators.
I could see some cars never going down in value, because there will always be more people who want them then there are cars, no matter how bad the economy.
Keep in mind that some people have so much money that the world could be besieged by plague, aliens, war and locusts and they'll still be all right. Then they will have everything and we will have nothing and then we'll have to eat them and start all over again. :P
And then there were people who would have loved to have had a Hemi or 440 6-pack, but ended up settling for something more mundane. I'd imagine that as prices fall, the cars that rode on the coattails of these greats will end up falling even further.
I wonder if there will be some really good deals as the Carlisle PA swap meets this year?
Sellers think it'll blow over and buyers hold out for even more of a drop---so it's a question of who blinks first.
All stock, all matching numbers
1968 Camaro Convertible
SS/RS
TH400
L34 396/350 HP
12 bolt Posi.
Tic Toc Tach
Console Gauges
AM Radio
Remote controlled rear view mirrors
Power steering/front disc brakes
Tinted windshield
Speed reminder - buzzes when you hit the pre set speed
Butternut Yellow/black
14" Rallye Wheels/7.75 x 14 red wall tires
Then we'd need to know documentation---As for documentation, the best things are a) build sheet b)protect-o-plate c) dealer window sticker. Without those you can never assign the highest values to a car.
Also, the VIN tags have to have no suspicion whatsoever about them and all the parts should date-code correctly for top dollar cars.
But if you want ballpark #s, you have to at least assess the car's overall condition. Without documents, the authenticity is always in doubt of course.
This soinds like one NICE car and it's certainly the right color too!
Yeah, those Camaros were recalled for bad engine mounts and the "solution" was to install cables around the existing mounts - including the new one I had installed.
Some cars had had the throttle cable stick open and the cars crash - thus the recall.
It is a very nice car - has had its share of annoyances (cooling system and transmission) and today's cars are far superior in engineering, suspension, steering, etc. Despite the fact that Toyota Camry V6s are equal to it in acceleration, there is still something about that old big block roar, that Quadrajet sucking in through its secondaries, and the neck snapping downshifting of the TH that no Camry can ever duplicate. Plus its being a convertible and the wind whipping through the hair. The car stickered for $4451 in 1968. I paid $2700 for it in April 1969 with 9800 miles on it. Drove it through law school and then later on it became a weekend car only. Glad I kept it! I think it is pretty rare - SS/RS combo, TH400, 350HP engine, convertible, and documented second owner.