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I drive to the local ski resort about a dozen times a winter on a snowy, but well maintained road, and haven't had any problems there either, although I take my time and do carry chains "just in case." The rest of my driving is mixed city/highway in good weather (never rains here).
I think I'd buy them again, but I'd look pretty hard at the X4's too, since they've gotten good reports around here and Tirerack. Less treadwear means no dry rot worry too :-)
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Re: leasing - Many lease companies have contractual stipulations regarding tire condition at lease maturity. Most have a minimum tread depth requirement. Many contracts demand leasees return the car with tires similar or identical to what was OE. I suppose a few leasees can get away with a junkyard tire but many will be penalized heavily if the tires are worn or inferior. Leasees are typically charged dealer prices for replacement tires so I'm sure that is incentive enough to install a set of top quality tires prior to lease turn-in.
When I turn in the car, I'd bolt on the factory wheels and sell the aftermarket stuff.
FWIW,
TB
Who seems to have twice as many wheels and tires as I do hubs to mount them on.
Hvan1
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Jim
Each finance company has their own requirements for tire wear at the end of a contract. The only time people get into trouble is when they don't read their contracts or take bad advice.
I've always heard from dealers that they want trade in's with either brand new tires or completely worn tires. I think you'll find many dealers installing new tires on trade in's prior to putting them on the lot. Once at an Infiniti dealer I saw a mobile tire installer put on new Yokohama's on several used cars. Probably easier and cheaper to have a mobile guy do this that tie up a service tech.
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My sister-in-law just had to replace the original Firestones on her '99 Oddy. Got 45K out of them, but they were shot. I was leaning toward the Turanza LS-T as a replacement, but she needed them quick (I don't live nearby), and got Bridgestone Weatherforce from Sears. $75/pert tire, and she is happy with them. They have to be better than bald Firerocks. Also are T rated.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
All that said, you may find T rated tires in general have a bit less grip than H rated tires on dry pavement. This is not because of the speed rating but T rated tires usually have longer tread life which usually means a harder compound which doesn't grip as well. Not all T rated tires are less grippy than H rated and not all H rated tires wear faster than T rated tires but in general it seems like tire manufacturers make them that way. Good tire shops will usually let you upgrade to a grippier tire if you don't like the first ones they put on.
Dry and wet road performance is excellent. We'll see about wear...23K so far.
Also did not want to "store" and change tires 2x/year.
Check out the Michelin site and evals on Tirerack for performance in snow and hydoplaning.
Al
As for the SP Sport A2 - no clue. Although I believe a whole bunch of people on the Mazda Protege board now swear by these tires. Drop by and ask for yourself!
Ken
By the way, I did a weight comparison with my minivan vs. a large luxury car to see how they compared. The Honda LX Oddysey weighs 4245 lbs.,
and a Lincoln Continental weighs 3895 lbs. My Van is 350 lbs heavier(without towing equipment and accessories) than the Lincoln. It also is more top heavy. This is why I feel it is important to place good quality tires on larger minivans, and I still feel consumers or other rating services should consider rating tires for how they handle on minivans in general. That said, I think the X-1 meets my needs.
Good luck - the X-one is an excellent tire.
Is that the price you pay for a great looking wheels/tires or did I just get a bad set of tires? I now drive a Tahoe. I think there's about a 8" sidewall on the bad-rep Firestones, but I've not had a single flat....lol. I saw a Yukon today with giant chrome wheels and ultra-low profile tires. Very, very cool looking, but after my experience, afraid to go there.
I've been running 215/45-17's on my car without drama. I've had one puncture (a nail) but not really more or less than with other vehicles. (I had three last year on the other two cars.)
I've been running this combination since June of last year.
And finally, the tires are Firestone SZ 50 EP's
TB
I am looking at the Bridgestone Turanza LS-T now because of price. Them seem like a good tire for the money. Does anyone have them on their van or car, and if so, how do you like them?
hvan1
Ken
JD Power best OEM tire
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My father-in-law has H rated Bridgestone Turanzas on his Mazda 626 and he likes them. Tirerack seems to rate the H rated Turanzas VERY well but the T rated ones 'only' good (still OK but not top of the class like the H rated ones). I'm not sure how much more expensive the H rated ones are.
Do some searchs at online car clubs or a place like http://www.roadfly.com for users opinions of Kumho.
I have the Yoko Geolandar H/T (Y816 I think?) on my 2000 Silverado, and the Yoko Avid S/T on my Hot Rod and am also very pleased with them. When I first bought the Yoko's it was due to the low price, after having them I prefer them to Michelins. Now it's a no brainer for me when I need tires, I just hope Yoko's don't get so popular that the price starts going up.
Ken
Thanks for the feedback. I felt the same way about the tire rack ratings.
The tirerack ratings has them very comparable to the Michelin X-ones with the statistical edge in snow traction, noise and ride comfort. Of course the price, like you said, is half the Michelins.
It seems that my choices are limited by available sizes. I recently put Dunlop Sp sport A2 on my son's car because they were a top rated tire in the size needed. I would have perferred a tire like the Avid Touring or the X-one for long tread life. Neither the Michelin or Yokos came in the needed size (215/60-15).
I will be needing a set of truck tires for my SUV before this winter. Again my choices are limited by available size. Looks like Michelin LTX M/S unless someone can suggest something else. The Yoko Geolanders don't come in 235/70-15. Need a mildly aggressive tread for snow and some off-road duty. The BFG Long Trails don't have the balance of characteristics that the LTX M//S offer.
Thanks to some recent posts, I've just gotten interested in the Yokohama brand, specifically the Geolandar H/T. Survey results seem above average, and the price is right. Very right.
Don't know if I can justify the extra bucks for the Michelins. And Bridgestone Dueler H/Ls are still in the running.
I'd appreciate any feedback on these Geolandar tires.
I don't anticipate doing any serious off-roading.
We get occasional snow.
Road noise and rain performance are major considerations.
Thanks.
-ss4
Grand High Poobah
The Fraternal Order of Procrastinators
These are my opinions, and I'm a bargain hunter so when I find a great product (Yokohamas) for a great price I stick with them.
Ken
Wow! That pretty much seals it then.
See
http://miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Enter the current size, and then try a few variation
eg: for 215/60-15 I would try 205/65-15 and 225/55-15
I don;t know if those sizes would be available, but you get the general idea. Read a few articles on "Plus Zero" sizing of tires to fit existing wheels, and the effects of going with higher and lower profile tires (on ride, handling, wear as well as speedo error, if any). It is often possible to switch to another size and save some money an/or get a better tire/ride/handling characteristics! Make sure to change all 4 tires, though, at the same time (unless you already have different sized OEM tires, eg some RWD vehicles)
It seems that the most popular BY FAR for mildly aggressive and some off road duty is the BFG AT KO. You might want to go to the 235/75R15 or even a 30X9.50 size, which will give you a little more ground clearance for that snow and off road stuff you mention.
The Durango isn't a small or light vehicle. Mine also doesn't have 4-wheel ABS so I wanted a tire with every bit of traction that I could find.
I'll let you know how things go after things start to get wet and sloppy around here.
Grand High Poobah
The Fraternal Order of Procrastinators
Grand High Poobah
The Fraternal Order of Procrastinators
But if things look good to you and the price is right on the Yoko's, I'd say their a good choice and certainly a good value.
Michelin's are nice but nice has a price. And it's always hard for me to recommend a tire when someone is happy with their current choice. So the Dueler HT's and the Yoko's are a toss up, IMO.