John, do you mean the PIO changes? Or, the FRSes? (wondering)... I have a deep understanding of the build process, and it's not even confirmed by the various plants (TMMI, NUMMI, GT etc) that fast.
and click Sequoia there to the left. For those with built-to-order cars thru me, waiting patiently, do not get upset when your own cars do not appear here! The cars posted are available, and obviously, your own build order isn't available for sale so it isn't posted!
I hope this helps ya'll see how these are "typically" built and what the MSRP dollar amounts are for CA cars. I lost a portion of my photo database in an accidental erasure, so I snagged the Toyota website cars for photos but as time marches on, I will replace them with real life photos!
Can anyone provide me with current information on what range of discount I can expect on a 2WD Limited - the local dealership is refusing to move off sticker much at all. I have seen comments that people are sometimes getting $1500-$3000 discounts but I am not finding anything near that level that so far.
These will vary by region. In the Central Atlantic region, there are almost no 2 wheel drive SUVs. This means that if you want one, you will pay a premium because a dealer is going to have to give up getting a 4x4 to obtain it. They will be afraid that you may back out and they will be stuck with a low demand Sequoia. Now, if you trip across a dealer who has one of the 5 they sent to this region, you may be able to get it for a steal because the dealer will have trouble selling it.
This is my first post hear. I have read almost all of the posts over the last few months to help with my decision about buying a Sequoia. Many were very helpful, thanks! I just made the deal and I am getting a Silver Sky 4WD SR5 with convienance package, alloy wheel package, sunroof, roof rack, JBL premium stereo and power front seats for 38K. Is that a good deal? I saw that others here got a limited for that price in Florida but I am in Northern California. Just wondering what others thought. This will be my 3rd Toyota I have owned in my life. I have an SR5 4 Runner that is 11 years old with 205K miles on it and still running strong. The family is to large and I had to get something larger. I am hoping Toyota maintains this quality in the new Sequoia.
I relly hate these kind of posts. I pity the person that has so little to do in his life that they go searching through the posts adding up all the options and figuring out the invoice + X$ dolar amount and render opinion. Then add in the variability of financing, tradein, and forced bogus options (Toyo guard, scotch guard, window etch,etc) and the number is meaningless. In general if you have a stock car with valid options, this is how I'd assess the sequoia pricing.
Invoice + $5000 = You paid MSRP, join the crowd Invoice + $4000 = Pretty respectable Invoice + $3000 = Really good Invoice + $2000 = Quite rare, the dealer was very motivated for some reason Invoice + $1000 = The dealer screwed up somehow Invoice + $0 = You must own the dealership
I am talking about FRS changes. The regional distict manager sends a confirmation email as soon as they get the confirmation. The past 6 have been within an hour or 2.
What actually happens (after a little research) is that your regional manager confirms that he HAS the request. The actual request is faxed to the manufacturing plant, ie. TMMI for Seq. or Tundra, and it goes to process. They won't confirm that for at least 10 days typically. It's all depending on where in the queue the car is, and if they have the proper materials on hand EXTRA to make the car your way. If they have enough leather seats/etc for 220 cars with PM package and no one FRS'es a PM car down to a cloth car with just CC so that there is an extra set of PM package components, and you request a Sequoia with PM for that particular week, it'll be a "no" but you will not know that for 7-10 days after the request. Your DM might be pushing the request ahead far enough in advance so that nothing can go wrong. It depends on the timing. At times, I cut it very close and still come up with the right car at the last minute!
Taylor, it's true, Cliffy's post about geographical position. My own pricing for 4WD in either Limited or SR5 is way better due to the fact that my bread-and-butter cars for Southern CA are the 2WDs. 75% of my 4WD sales are to folks in Northern CA, or areas up N/E like WA, CO, TX etc. Of course, in SoCAL, everyone's either east or north of me (LOL) but the bulk of my Sequoia slaes are to North of me, Northern CA and WA being the largest ratio.
You may want to seek a snowy area to find a better 2WD deal? Where are you?
Hi folks, Picked up a Seq. Ltd. a few weeks ago and am just now able to find the time to share my observations with you. WARNING--This may get a bit long, but it lays out my experience with the whole process!
HOW I CAME TO SEQUOIA Well over a year ago we started looking at getting a new vehicle. The family was growing (5 and 3 yr old). Had a '90 4Runner. Great vehicle, but whenever we went on trips it just seemed to get smaller and smaller. Plus, it was a real basic SR5, with no A/C, so quite a bummer with the kids in in the summer. Mind you, it was also a 4-cylinder.
Was real interested in the Durango due to its third seat. Basically, I wanted that sort of functionality without the beastiality of the Suburban. But, keeping me from pulling the trigger on the Durango were two things--gas mileage and, more importantly, that it was Dodge. I've never purchased a domestic, and didn't really want to start now.
Then, after seeing some friends and family with mini-vans, and how much they seemed to love them, we started poking around the Sienna. But, it really wasn't big enough--I'm 6-1 and my wife is 5-9 with longer legs than mine.
Just about this time I heard about the Sequoia. This was about 10 months ago I think. I started monitoring these boards, and pretty much decided after seeing all the specs that this was the right vehicle for us.
THE BUYING PROCESS Over the course of the following months, I learned a lot about Dianne and Cliffy, and how they seemed to do right by folks. When the Seq finally started shipping in November, I was armed pretty well with all the options, pricing, etc. I tried a half dozen local dealers (Seattle area) but they were either complete jerks, or, even if they were tolerable, none wanted to play ball. No special orders, no discounts to speak of. And if any of you have read some of the testimonials Carson Toyota has on their website, you know how powerful they are. I was sold.
I had discussed with Dianne about how it might work getting a car from So Cal. She told me no problem, delivered to folks up here all the time. As long as I was willing to be patient, she could give me exactly what I wanted at a price much better than anything I could find locally. So, I sent her a deposit around the third week of November.
About 6 weeks later I got a message from her telling me all the details, the vin#, etc. and that it would be in soon. She was able to predict within a day or two of when it would actually be on her lot. I then had a decision to make--do I have her ship it up with a trucking company or go down there and get it myself? I decided to wing it based on what was going on at work (I own a video production business). If things were too busy, I'd have her send it up. BTW, shipping to Seattle around $750, plus another $125 or something if you want it to ride on top, plus another fee to get it to my doorstep.
The day it dropped on her lot, I had a business meeting that morning. But I got back to the office, found a web-special price on Alaska Air, and decided to go for it. I called her from the airport and told her "I'm coming in!". The ticket was $200.
When I got to LAX, one of her co-workers was there to pick me up. When we got to the dealership, I met Dianne and she had me go take a looksie at the new beauty. Everything was in order, just like I wanted--4wd, LTD, Black, Gray interior, sunroof, a few of the other little options, and NO SPOILER.
We did the paperwork thing, and I was out of there in about an hour or so. There was one little hitch in the process though. That was due to her not digging E-loan payments. She had been burned by them in the past, and when I told her that's what I was bringing down the day before on the phone, she suggested I use another outfit such as PeopleFirst.com. No problem, I did that, but of course there was no time to actually get the check from them, so as a backup, I had to fill out Toyota Credit app to cover my bases if I didn't come through with the other check.
She got the trip permit set up for me, helped me install the floor mats, instructed me on where to go to get my free tank of gas, and away I went , off into the Southern California sunset.
Bill-I really enjoyed your story. I am considering purchasing a 2WD Limited in California for an Oregon resident(Carson?) and wondered about how the experience would work. I assume that the trip permit allowed you to drive your unit out of CA without having to pay the CA tax. Correct?
Dianne--My question to you is can an Oregon dealer secure a 2WD Limited you have on your lot to Oregon? Finding a 2WD Limited in Oregon is a tough task.
Bob wrote: >> I am considering purchasing a 2WD Limited in California for an Oregon resident(Carson?) and wondered about how the experience would work. I assume that the trip permit allowed you to drive your unit out of CA without having to pay the CA tax. Correct?<<
That's right Bob. I have to title and pay tax on it up here in WA. By the way, love your part of the world, wish I could have stopped and done some fishing.....
thirdsuv - Invoice + $1500 = A rare motivated dealer screwup? Invoice + $2000 = Quite rare, the dealer was very motivated for some reason Invoice + $1000 = The dealer screwed up somehow
I forgot to mention the hammertone trim. I can see how it would look out of place on the oak interior (in fact I know it looks that way b/c I've seen it). But it looks great with the gray.
You stated: Invoice + $5000 = You paid MSRP, join the crowd Invoice + $4000 = Pretty respectable Invoice + $3000 = Really good Invoice + $2000 = Quite rare, the dealer was very motivated for some reason Invoice + $1000 = The dealer screwed up somehow Invoice + $0 = You must own the dealership
What authority do you have? I think I must have pretty low IQ to believe you. Or rather, it must take pretty low IQ to make such statements as you did.
Hey thirdsuv's little chart, while offered as somewhat humorous in indeed very close to reality. Hey lcd1 in case you missed the context of the post, thirdsuv was considering high demand new release vehicles. Period!
On what authority do I support thirdsuv. Common Sense and a High IQ!! I have for some time been considering either one or possibly two new SUVs (the reason for wanting two doesn't matter for this discussion). Because of the possiblity of two we have looked at many SUVs in all shapes and sizes, paying particular attention to the new ones in very high demand. Specifically the Toyota Sequoia, Highlander and RAV4 and also the Acura MDX. For the most part these vehicles (with the exception of the RAV4) are still selling at or near MSRP. That is the cold hard facts of the current market dynamics - the real authority upon which the chart is based.
The chart is not appropriate for an older vehicle in which supply outpaces demand. Oh yea, the law of supply and demand - another one of those authority things.
LOL. You're not wrong in general. However, with respect to the Sequoia in Northern VA, I was quoted with prices that are much better than the funny chart indicates. As I understand, the demand for Sequoias is pretty high here.
Great story! One thing though...personally I would consider 18 mpg avg. quite good for a SUV, esp. one with the mass of the Seq. as well as a V8. I'm currently nearing the end of my lease of my second 4WD JGC I-6 and have averaged 16 mpg, and I am nowhere near a leadfoot. I'm currently working out the numbers for both the 4WD Seq SR5 and the Montero LTD, one of which I will purchase within a month or two. I really enjoyed your story as well as all the feedback from this board.
<<However, with respect to the Sequoia in Northern VA, I was quoted with prices that are much better than the funny chart indicates. As I understand, the demand for Sequoias is pretty high here. >>
Would you care to elaborate? What exactly is "much better"? I think many of us who are seriously considering a Seq would be very interested in getting in to one at prices that are "much better than the funny chart". Thanks.
LOL. You're not wrong in general. However, with respect to the Sequoia in Northern VA, I was quoted with prices that are much better than the funny chart indicates. As I understand, the demand for Sequoias is pretty high here.
a little over a month ago, I was quoted a limited for $2k under MSRP at Bill Page and $1k under MSRP at Carmax, Laurel, MD. Koons Toyota in Fairfax suggested that they can knock $1.5K off an SR5. I hope this helps.
As a competitor to Bill Page, I can attest to the fact that a month ago, all of us in Northern VA would discount $2000 from MSRP. Right now, not a chance on the Limited but perhaps on an SR5. Now, that $2000 off MSRP puts you right in the "really good" category from thirdsuv. Mind you, we didn't sell all our Sequoias for that amount but many did.
Now, since you seem to be in the market in the area I live in, is there a reason you didn't look me up?
I must agree with you regarding the clock. I also have a Camry and I am used to the clock being higher on the dash. Im also wondering if you have problems seeing the indicator lights on the AC, and the 2 defogers buttons, I have to lean over to the right to really see if they are on or not.
I noticed that you refered to the Booming bass (that you had NOT heard) on the sterio. Funny I thought it was only me... But I have had to adjust my bass down low (or would you say higher?) Anyone else with this problem?
About the chart....oh never mind. It seems you're the only one in disagreement.
P.S. FYI, there have been those rare occurances ;-) when what a dealer QUOTES you and what ends up on the bottom of the recipt are two very differnt things. A little Toyo guard here...a little glass etch there...a little DOC charge here and low-and-behold your $1500 under MSRP quote is looking a lot like MSRP.
This is my first posting. I just had to share my story because you guys were instrumental in me choosing a Sequoia.
I am one of those guys that needs a full size vehicle because I'm 6'5" and weigh 275 lbs. In 1991 I bought my first chevy K1500 and enjoyed it until 1997 when the dealer screwed up a simple fuel injector repair, forgot to reattach the throttle valve cable, and I blew the transmission. My next vehicle, a 1997 K1500 Z71 shortbed with 5.7 litre lasted until February of this year with 85,000 miles on it. I had always considered this a Tahoe 'coupe' because I had a cap on it and I could keep my toys (goose decoys, fishing equipment, home projects, etc.) in the back, covered. I rarely needed to seat more than 3 because my wife and I don't have any kids.
When you drive a Chevy (or Ford, or Dodge Ram for that mater) you by into this little club that swears by your brand while cursing the others. I was a 'heartbeat', 'like a rock' guy for 10 years but I had come to realize that the Chevy quality, while good, was not the excellence I had deluded myself into thinking it was. My 'Tahoe coupe' needed some engine repairs along the way (alternator), a nasty transmission shifting problem, and rode like I was driving on railroad ties even when I replaced the shocks. There were little anoyances like clunks and rattles, and the steering wheel developed a habit of jerking slightly in my hand while starting from a stop. Being a 'heartbeat' guy, I couldn't very well change to Ford or Dodge when I started looking at a SUV so I did something totally radical...I went Japanese!
After a month of driving my Sequoia I doubt if I will ever buy American again. This thing handles like a dream. It is so quiet and smooth I struggle keeping my eyes open on my way home from work. The doors shut with a sound of quality. I've got so much headroom I can start wearing hats! There's enough room to carry all my toys and 3 or 4 buddies too. I couldn't be happier.
The deal I got is as follows: I traded my Z71 with 85,000 (Kelly, Edmunds, and others value it at $11,500 trade-in) in Illinois for a SR5 4x4, MSRP $37,302. They gave me $13,500 off of MSRP. Call it $11,500 trade and $2,000 discount. They also put in an after market keyless/alarm that the SR5 did not come with.
One more thing. I purchased the 6 year, 100,000 extended warrantee with zero deductable for $935. As you can see, I do put some miles on my vehicle. I never did this before with the Chevy's because they want over $2000 for a 5 year, 75,000 mile policy. When the dealer offered me the 6yr/100,000 for $935, I wrote him a check on the spot. From what I can tell from reading the other posts from happy Toyota owners, I may never need this insurance. I hope I don't.
That brings up a good topic. Does anybody have the faintest idea of what the invoice cost is of the warranty?
You'd think that there would be a lot of salesman with a little free time on their hands waiting for their UP to get to the top that wouldn't mind doing the paperwork for...oh....50$.
I decided to wait for the novelty factor to die off some on the Sequoia and the prices to come down. There really is no reason not to check you out. In due time, I'll come to see you.
I'd also be interested in knowing what the invoice cost of the warranty is..we got 6 year/75000 miles, 0 deductible for $660. Considering that the Toyota literature in the dealership shows a price of $1100 (and that's where the salesman started), I think we got a good deal. We have also NEVER bought an extended warranty on anything, but this sounded worthwhile. BTW, our family just LOVES this Sequoia.....light years better than the last 3 Jeeps we owned!
I found a dealer from Toyota's web site in the Atlanta area that is listing Sequoia's from 1 to 2 thousand dollars below MSRP. Is this a good deal? They are the only dealer I've found in metro Atlanta that is stating this right on their website ( www.worldtoyota.com, follow the links through new inventory and choose Sequoia ).
All this was on a SR5 on done over the internet. I would avoid Roswell Toyota, nothing but hassels there.
Good luck!
I ended up getting a Desert Sand SR5 with Alloy wheel package, Conv package, Roof rack, rear AC, Toyo guard, mats and hood deflector for $33,900 out the door (5% tax plus other fees).
Thirdsuv, you are correct, they do not have a $100 over invoice special, it is $300 over invoice.
Npep, thanks for your help. The drive to Tuscaloosa is well worth the trip. I can also use this as negotiating power for other dealers in the Atlanta area.
I keep hearing about $$$over invoice. United Buying Service & Credit Union buyers buy at a certain amount over invoice... this amount never is inflated with advertising fees... etc.
I have received a quote at $2500 over invoice... only to be told that I have to pay additional costs for advertising... etc., these fees add up to an additional $800.
Is this common??? It seems like the price is not really as stated.
This was not Tusculoosa...My question was, when the dealer says $2500 over invoice why are there additional addons? I expect things like tax, tags, and doc. prep.fees. But...advertising..?
A bit more info on the legitimacy of ad fees is here (drill down to #12): Edmunds.com's Most Frequently Asked Questions Steve Host Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards
I noticed that my Sequoia SR5 doesn't come with the hoodliner. Guess this is the reason that the engine sounds louder than the Limited version. Does anyone have any recommendations on what/where to get a good hoodliner?
Sorry about my anti-tuscaloosa statement but I had a bad experience with this dealer myself in Dec and there have been other negative reports in this board about them. I thik the fairest advice in dealing with Tuscaloosa is that you better be on your toes when you go to close.
You know, this Toyota penny-pinching garbage is getting old. I'm waiting for the day when someone writes in and informs us that the SR5 fenders are made out of paper-mache and the windows are recycled saran wrap.
Isn't this typical with any dealer though? Aren't the extra insulation type items exactly how Ford and Mercury would be separated? (I hate to use the F word around here, but I couldn't think of another comparison). This is actually one of the differentiators between SR5 and Limited that seems to make sense. Makes alot more sense that the fog light thing. If you are trying to make a distinction between a base and a premium model then soundproofing is usually first on the list. Having said all that, I don't think the SR5 is too loud, but I would be interested if anybody found a way to insulate it even more!
I have an SR5 and I have never considered it loud ! Now, maybe my definition of loud is different... By loud, I mean inside of the vehicle is dead-quiet and I don't hear a thing. Outside, it is *loud* as loud can be for any big truck. Of course, a hoodliner on it will make the external loudness even less, I admit.
One of the quietest engines out there is the Camry. And the 4-cyl engines do not come with a hoodliner, yet it is quiet inside and outside. I use to own one before trading it in for a 6-cyl Maxima, which is itself, a very smooth running, quiet-engine vehicle... great car too... :-)
I guess all I am saying is that the engine noise that is important to me is the *inside* of the vehicle, and the comfort and convenience of being able to carry a conversation without annoying engine noise. In this case, my SR5 fits me perfectly and I have no complaints whatsoever...
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http://carsontoyota.com/master_suv.html
and click Sequoia there to the left. For those with built-to-order cars thru me, waiting patiently, do not get upset when your own cars do not appear here! The cars posted are available, and obviously, your own build order isn't available for sale so it isn't posted!
I hope this helps ya'll see how these are "typically" built and what the MSRP dollar amounts are for CA cars. I lost a portion of my photo database in an accidental erasure, so I snagged the Toyota website cars for photos but as time marches on, I will replace them with real life photos!
Dianne
dianne@earthlink.net
I relly hate these kind of posts. I pity the person that has so little to do in his life that they go searching through the posts adding up all the options and figuring out the invoice + X$ dolar amount and render opinion. Then add in the variability of financing, tradein, and forced bogus options (Toyo guard, scotch guard, window etch,etc) and the number is meaningless. In general if you have a stock car with valid options, this is how I'd assess the sequoia pricing.
Invoice + $5000 = You paid MSRP, join the crowd
Invoice + $4000 = Pretty respectable
Invoice + $3000 = Really good
Invoice + $2000 = Quite rare, the dealer was very motivated for some reason
Invoice + $1000 = The dealer screwed up somehow
Invoice + $0 = You must own the dealership
cheers,
Dianne
You may want to seek a snowy area to find a better 2WD deal? Where are you?
Di
Picked up a Seq. Ltd. a few weeks ago and am just now able to find the time to share my observations with you. WARNING--This may get a bit long, but it lays out my experience with the whole process!
HOW I CAME TO SEQUOIA
Well over a year ago we started looking at getting a new vehicle. The family was growing (5 and 3 yr old). Had a '90 4Runner. Great vehicle, but whenever we went on trips it just seemed to get smaller and smaller. Plus, it was a real basic SR5, with no A/C, so quite a bummer with the kids in in the summer. Mind you, it was also a 4-cylinder.
Was real interested in the Durango due to its third seat. Basically, I wanted that sort of functionality without the beastiality of the Suburban. But, keeping me from pulling the trigger on the Durango were two things--gas mileage and, more importantly, that it was Dodge. I've never purchased a domestic, and didn't really want to start now.
Then, after seeing some friends and family with mini-vans, and how much they seemed to love them, we started poking around the Sienna. But, it really wasn't big enough--I'm 6-1 and my wife is 5-9 with longer legs than mine.
Just about this time I heard about the Sequoia. This was about 10 months ago I think. I started monitoring these boards, and pretty much decided after seeing all the specs that this was the right vehicle for us.
THE BUYING PROCESS
Over the course of the following months, I learned a lot about Dianne and Cliffy, and how they seemed to do right by folks. When the Seq finally started shipping in November, I was armed pretty well with all the options, pricing, etc. I tried a half dozen local dealers (Seattle area) but they were either complete jerks, or, even if they were tolerable, none wanted to play ball. No special orders, no discounts to speak of. And if any of you have read some of the testimonials Carson Toyota has on their website, you know how powerful they are. I was sold.
I had discussed with Dianne about how it might work getting a car from So Cal. She told me no problem, delivered to folks up here all the time. As long as I was willing to be patient, she could give me exactly what I wanted at a price much better than anything I could find locally. So, I sent her a deposit around the third week of November.
About 6 weeks later I got a message from her telling me all the details, the vin#, etc. and that it would be in soon. She was able to predict within a day or two of when it would actually be on her lot. I then had a decision to make--do I have her ship it up with a trucking company or go down there and get it myself? I decided to wing it based on what was going on at work (I own a video production business). If things were too busy, I'd have her send it up. BTW, shipping to Seattle around $750, plus another $125 or something if you want it to ride on top, plus another fee to get it to my doorstep.
The day it dropped on her lot, I had a business meeting that morning. But I got back to the office, found a web-special price on Alaska Air, and decided to go for it. I called her from the airport and told her "I'm coming in!". The ticket was $200.
When I got to LAX, one of her co-workers was there to pick me up. When we got to the dealership, I met Dianne and she had me go take a looksie at the new beauty. Everything was in order, just like I wanted--4wd, LTD, Black, Gray interior, sunroof, a few of the other little options, and NO SPOILER.
We did the paperwork thing, and I was out of there in about an hour or so. There was one little hitch in the process though. That was due to her not digging E-loan payments. She had been burned by them in the past, and when I told her that's what I was bringing down the day before on the phone, she suggested I use another outfit such as PeopleFirst.com. No problem, I did that, but of course there was no time to actually get the check from them, so as a backup, I had to fill out Toyota Credit app to cover my bases if I didn't come through with the other check.
She got the trip permit set up for me, helped me install the floor mats, instructed me on where to go to get my free tank of gas, and away I went , off into the Southern California sunset.
(to be continued....)
Dianne--My question to you is can an Oregon dealer secure a 2WD Limited you have on your lot to Oregon? Finding a 2WD Limited in Oregon is a tough task.
Bob
Rouge River, OR
>> I am considering purchasing a 2WD Limited in California for an Oregon resident(Carson?) and wondered about how the experience would work. I assume that the trip permit allowed you to drive your unit out of CA without having to pay the CA tax. Correct?<<
That's right Bob. I have to title and pay tax on it up here in WA. By the way, love your part of the world, wish I could have stopped and done some fishing.....
thirdsuv - Invoice + $1500 = A rare motivated dealer screwup?
Invoice + $2000 = Quite rare, the dealer was very motivated for some reason
Invoice + $1000 = The dealer screwed up somehow
bk
You stated:
Invoice + $5000 = You paid MSRP, join the crowd
Invoice + $4000 = Pretty respectable
Invoice + $3000 = Really good
Invoice + $2000 = Quite rare, the dealer was very motivated for some reason
Invoice + $1000 = The dealer screwed up somehow
Invoice + $0 = You must own the dealership
What authority do you have? I think I must have pretty low IQ to believe you. Or rather, it must take pretty low IQ to make such statements as you did.
On what authority do I support thirdsuv. Common Sense and a High IQ!! I have for some time been considering either one or possibly two new SUVs (the reason for wanting two doesn't matter for this discussion). Because of the possiblity of two we have looked at many SUVs in all shapes and sizes, paying particular attention to the new ones in very high demand. Specifically the Toyota Sequoia, Highlander and RAV4 and also the Acura MDX. For the most part these vehicles (with the exception of the RAV4) are still selling at or near MSRP. That is the cold hard facts of the current market dynamics - the real authority upon which the chart is based.
The chart is not appropriate for an older vehicle in which supply outpaces demand. Oh yea, the law of supply and demand - another one of those authority things.
Would you care to elaborate? What exactly is "much better"? I think many of us who are seriously considering a Seq would be very interested in getting in to one at prices that are "much better than the funny chart". Thanks.
Earl Perque
Now, since you seem to be in the market in the area I live in, is there a reason you didn't look me up?
I must agree with you regarding the clock. I also have a Camry and I am used to the clock being higher on the dash. Im also wondering if you have problems seeing the indicator lights on the AC, and the 2 defogers buttons, I have to lean over to the right to really see if they are on or not.
I noticed that you refered to the Booming bass (that you had NOT heard) on the sterio. Funny I thought it was only me... But I have had to adjust my bass down low (or would you say higher?) Anyone else with this problem?
P.S. FYI, there have been those rare occurances ;-) when what a dealer QUOTES you and what ends up on the bottom of the recipt are two very differnt things. A little Toyo guard here...a little glass etch there...a little DOC charge here and low-and-behold your $1500 under MSRP quote is looking a lot like MSRP.
(No offense Diane/Cliffy)
cheers
I am one of those guys that needs a full size vehicle because I'm 6'5" and weigh 275 lbs. In 1991 I bought my first chevy K1500 and enjoyed it until 1997 when the dealer screwed up a simple fuel injector repair, forgot to reattach the throttle valve cable, and I blew the transmission. My next vehicle, a 1997 K1500 Z71 shortbed with 5.7 litre lasted until February of this year with 85,000 miles on it. I had always considered this a Tahoe 'coupe' because I had a cap on it and I could keep my toys (goose decoys, fishing equipment, home projects, etc.) in the back, covered. I rarely needed to seat more than 3 because my wife and I don't have any kids.
When you drive a Chevy (or Ford, or Dodge Ram for that mater) you by into this little club that swears by your brand while cursing the others. I was a 'heartbeat', 'like a rock' guy for 10 years but I had come to realize that the Chevy quality, while good, was not the excellence I had deluded myself into thinking it was. My 'Tahoe coupe' needed some engine repairs along the way (alternator), a nasty transmission shifting problem, and rode like I was driving on railroad ties even when I replaced the shocks. There were little anoyances like clunks and rattles, and the steering wheel developed a habit of jerking slightly in my hand while starting from a stop.
Being a 'heartbeat' guy, I couldn't very well change to Ford or Dodge when I started looking at a SUV so I did something totally radical...I went Japanese!
After a month of driving my Sequoia I doubt if I will ever buy American again. This thing handles like a dream. It is so quiet and smooth I struggle keeping my eyes open on my way home from work. The doors shut with a sound of quality. I've got so much headroom I can start wearing hats! There's enough room to carry all my toys and 3 or 4 buddies too. I couldn't be happier.
The deal I got is as follows: I traded my Z71 with 85,000 (Kelly, Edmunds, and others value it at $11,500 trade-in) in Illinois for a SR5 4x4, MSRP $37,302. They gave me $13,500 off of MSRP. Call it $11,500 trade and $2,000 discount. They also put in an after market keyless/alarm that the SR5 did not come with.
One more thing. I purchased the 6 year, 100,000 extended warrantee with zero deductable for $935. As you can see, I do put some miles on my vehicle. I never did this before with the Chevy's because they want over $2000 for a 5 year, 75,000 mile policy. When the dealer offered me the 6yr/100,000 for $935, I wrote him a check on the spot. From what I can tell from reading the other posts from happy Toyota owners, I may never need this insurance. I hope I don't.
You'd think that there would be a lot of salesman with a little free time on their hands waiting for their UP to get to the top that wouldn't mind doing the paperwork for...oh....50$.
This seems like a great fit for the internet.
I decided to wait for the novelty factor to die off some on the Sequoia and the prices to come down. There really is no reason not to check you out. In due time, I'll come to see you.
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Thanks,
John
They gave me one of the best prices around. They had a $100 over invoice special that I just missed, but they were still dealing. As did:
http://www.mariettatoyota.com
They were $1500 over invoice.
All this was on a SR5 on done over the internet. I would avoid Roswell Toyota, nothing but hassels there.
Good luck!
I ended up getting a Desert Sand SR5 with Alloy wheel package, Conv package, Roof rack, rear AC, Toyo guard, mats and hood deflector for $33,900 out the door (5% tax plus other fees).
Let me guess, this sale lasted about 10 seconds which is how long it took for the owners daughter to sign her name on the sale?
Npep, thanks for your help. The drive to Tuscaloosa is well worth the trip. I can also use this as negotiating power for other dealers in the Atlanta area.
Thanks,
John
I have received a quote at $2500 over invoice... only to be told that I have to pay additional costs for advertising... etc., these fees add up to an additional $800.
Is this common??? It seems like the price is not really as stated.
Feedback please???
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Sorry about my anti-tuscaloosa statement but
I had a bad experience with this dealer myself
in Dec and there have been other negative reports in this board about them. I thik the fairest advice in dealing with Tuscaloosa is that you better be on your toes when you go to close.
Having said all that, I don't think the SR5 is too loud, but I would be interested if anybody found a way to insulate it even more!
One of the quietest engines out there is the Camry. And the 4-cyl engines do not come with a hoodliner, yet it is quiet inside and outside. I use to own one before trading it in for a 6-cyl Maxima, which is itself, a very smooth running, quiet-engine vehicle... great car too... :-)
I guess all I am saying is that the engine noise that is important to me is the *inside* of the vehicle, and the comfort and convenience of being able to carry a conversation without annoying engine noise. In this case, my SR5 fits me perfectly and I have no complaints whatsoever...