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New Motor Trend talking about Silverado 1500HD: "Braking wasn't as short as we'd like it...brakes feel sketchy...when loaded with 1000 lbs. braking got downright scary. When you hit the pedal it goes about halfway to the floor, waits a beat, then all the way to the mat...meanwhile entire countries are whizzing by your window.
At the other end of the performance scale is the Tundra...emergency braking was impressive...stellar,straight and surefooted...fully loaded with 1000 lbs. only required an additional 5 feet to stop- how did they do that?"
Hopefully your Yukons have different braking systems?
Incidentally, the aforementioned Silverado has a 10300 lb. towing capacity. Kinda scary to think about towing that much with inferior braking isn't it!
714cut: while I recognize your intention is to find whatever article you can to be dismissive of any suv alternative to the Sequoia, my intention was not to engage in a debate on quality. The would be a futile effort in this environment and with this audience.
However I did want to provide a straight-forward and BALANCED answer to the poster inquiring about a 30ft travel trailer and what vehicles would be suitable tugs. I provided factual information which I'm sure you found irritating because it so clearly and dramatically favors vehicles other than your "beloved" Sequoia for this one particular capability that was being inquired about.
Unfortunately you and cliffy misdirected the poster by suggesting his best and/or only alternative was a pickup. If you consider the quality of all the domestics to be poor, I'm not sure why you would have suggested a pickup over the Expedition, Yukon, Yukon XL, Suburban, Tahoe and Excursion, if heavy towing is an important criteria for its owner.
If heavy towing is needed combined with the convenience of an suv for non-towing situations than the vehicles above are far better choices than the Sequoia or a pickup. There is no towing advantage to a pickup over the same chassis, drivetrain, suspension and engine in the comparable suv. The two capacities are very similar and in many cases favor the suv. If you believe otherwise, you should also be recommending to anyone inquiring about towing on this forum that they should buy a Tundra instead of a Sequoia because a pickup is a better tow vehicle than an suv (which they are not).
If fifth wheel towing is your need than obviously you must have a pick-up, however for all towing with a ball and hitch attached to the rear undercarriage there is no benefit to a pickup over an suv.
To answer your question, I have towed 8-9000lb triple axle boat trailers comfortable behind a 3/4 ton Sub with a 7.4L engine. I currently (warm weather of course) tow a 6,500 lb boat on a dual axle, dual brake trailer, behind a 2001 Denali XL. A 3/4 ton Suburban (Yukon XL) with a 4.10 rear and the 8.1L engine is the ultimate tow vehicle with 4 wheels followed closely by the Excursion with the 7.3L turbo diesel.
I acknowledged that I had overlooked the Heavy duty Suburban or Excursion. I do not dismiss anything other than Sequoias. In fact if you gather proper facts you will see my posts mentioning waiting for/comparing the brand new Expedition (for example).
It's funny how you are always challenging Sequoia info yet respond so strongly when other findings challenge GM products. As well you are always just lurking waiting to pounce on any post. You rarely post first, you are always responding to other posts.
"This environment with this audience". It is the Toyota Sequoia forum is it not?
You post many things against the Sequoia, yet you selectively dismiss valuable info against GM products and your beloved Denali. Do you not think that someone towing a large trailer would like to know about a potentially dangerous braking situation? You'd certainly be pointing it out if it was the Sequoia!
No misguiding happened nor was intended. I admitted I wasn't thinking about larger SUV's (and the original question was can the Sequoia tow it!) and conceded that point. Why can't you accept that?
Actually the Tundra is a better towing vehicle than the Sequoia. It has a 7100 lb. towing capacity. As Motor Trend stated "Built to take on the Baja or daily commute, the Tundra can still haul a 7000 lb. trailer without breaking a sweat". Maybe do your research before misguiding our posters here on the Toyota Sequoia forum.
Oh yes, and comparing a 3/4 ton Suburban to a 1/2 ton Sequoia is disingenuous.
I compared the 3/4 ton Suburban to a 3/4 ton pickup. There is another forum for comparing the Sequoia to the Suburban or Tahoe. I simply was providing legitimate assistance to an inquiry which showed there are several other good choices to consider for his trailer package other than pickups, since the Sequoia was not capable of the tow weights that the poster was looking to handle.
I shared the factual capacities for others to interpret without my opinions unless they were asked for. Is there some part of the data I shared that you find inaccurate, or are you just irritated that it favors something other than a Sequoia?
There is a topic like that already in operation on the Townhall board - its called "I don't like SUVs, why do you?"
Although I have to admit to cheering for Heatwave as he defends his right to choose an SUV and debates some of their inaccuracies!
Those are those very long self-important posts from wanna be members of the national debating team.
I knew there was a reason I haven't ventured into that topic
Hey, some of the nicest though most vocal members of the Town Hall hang out there! :-)
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Any information regarding changes being made for the 2003 Model Year. One item that I am hoping that they add is the Navigation System. If they do, I would like to see the Land Cruiser version not the Camry version. The LC version remains in place and the Camry flips down. The Sequoia could use the same configuration as the LC, particularly since the shifter is on the column and and not on the floor. Your thoughts. Thanks.
Some people have put PIAA 959's? instead. A lot cheaper but they stick out a bit and give the truck a little "bug-eyed" look IMHO.
The lighting is not hugely significant so if you do it do it for the look (it does look great with the fog lights in there). If you do it for lighting, go with some proper driving lights. I've just ordered some Hella micro Xenon true HID driving lights and will keep you posted when they arrive. Check them out at www.hella.com and see them in the "interactive light tunnel". They will however have to be mounted on the bumper.
The "power brake fading" is disconcerting and mine does the same. However, my Ford Explorer and my wife's Camry all did the same. I think it might have something to do with idle speed when compressor kicks in. I think this would be "normal".
The flashing AC light clearly indicates a problem and sound like it is being replaced. I haven't seen a lot of posts about AC problems but there have been some.
http://www.geocities.com/shweggy/shweggys_foglight_page.html
Do the PIAA 959 fog lights clip into the holes on the sequoia?
burned.
I don't dispute I paid a premium as I had to have the Toyota lights but keep in mind the lights alone you mentioned are nearly $500 cdn. There were also no instructions on how to do at the time so the dealer was winging it.
I should clarify removing the steering wheel...that should be part of the steering wheel so they could be properly tied in to headlights so they shut off on high beam.
Also I am not a handyman or mechanically inclined. It's going to cost you a couple of hours labor to have them installed. You're probably goint to end up pretty close to where I was.
I don't have the time to recap my AC nightmare but apparently there were some bad compressors used in 2001. I don't know if there is a TSB or not. I strongly recommend that you document everything regarding this problem. It could come in handy if they can't fix it after a few attempts.
Heatwave, they really liked your Denali XL, rating it the best in a lot of categories and best overall! They were very positive about it.
I don't exactly recall who chastised me for comparing the Sequoia to a Denali XL, however it appears that the magazine you referenced above thought enough consumer's shopped for these 3 vehicles that it warranted a Magazine comparison.
BTW, was the Sequoia a Limited in the comparison, because if not, than I would agree that from a feature standpoint and price standpoint it would be an unfair comparison. OTOH if it was a Limited comparison to a Denali XL and a Limited Excursion it would be a reasonable comparison of interest to many potential consumers of these f/s suvs.
Going back to comparo, it was an Excursion XLT and both the Sequoia and Excursion were 2001's and the Denali was a 2002. I think they should have made them all the same model year and all top of the line otherwise it's not really a fair comparison. Also the 2002 Sequoia has addressed some of their dislikes such as over-active VSC and steering feel (alignment).
Sequoia vs Expy/Yuckon is too easy of a game for the sequoia. Sequoia needs to be compared to vehicles outside its class for the other vehicles to stand a chance.
Remember, after the shine of buying a new Yuckon subsides, you realize that you payed $40,000 for a....GM product. Ouch.
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Am looking at a couple of trucks to replace our '95 EB and the Sequoia is on the list. Right now, I would probably buy a sequoia or another explorer EB (w v8) since I like the idea of a truck frame and real 4wd. 2 concerns:
The 4 speed auto - this truck seems to beg for an overdrive gear, what do you think?
Rear air conditioning - I live in Texas where it can get extremely hot in the summer. How well is the air conditioning delivered to the 3rd row? Is it adequate? We can have multiple days in a row in the over 100 degree range.
Thanks in advance fro any helpful responses.