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Nissan Pathfinder



  • smibradsmibrad Posts: 34
    1000 miles is a little early to be switching to synthetic oil. You should wait until the 2nd or 3rd oil change to give the engine a chance to break in. I switched to AMSOIL at 7000 miles. I know have 15,500 miles and have not experienced any oil consumption.
  • mtt999mtt999 Posts: 15
    Jmtreetop, I am with you, I stick with 91 or higher octane and worry free.

    The dealer replaced my bridgetones dueler cupped tires to Toyo tires to cure the shimming. The ride wasn’t that smooth on the new Toyo tires. Last week, I increase the tire pressure from 25 psi to 30 psi and the ride is much smoother. Btw, the maximum load pressure on the Toyo tires is 35psi. I have 6k on my 01pf LE.
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    Back in post #2244, a question re a way to meet the 91 octane requirement of the PF was asked...namely, can you mix 89 & 93 (50/50) to get 91 (since you can't seem to get 91 anywhere).

    Tonychrys gave the url with info that I just got around to looking at...I can't vouch for its accuracy but it clearly states that mixing 89 & 93 50/50 WILL yield the equivalent of 91. Last nite, while filling up I noticed that Mobil had 93 @ 1.90 and 89 @ 1.85 - so I would save a whopping 50 cents on a 20 gal 50/50 mix as opposed to straight 93. Doesn't seem worth it but at least I have the answer :-)
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    Hey...lookin back at the posts I just mentioned (in my last post) I noticed that they were screwed up...some were out of order and one post by tonychrys is shown as if it was by me (!). Is this problem wide spread?

    I also noticed that the 'goto' function was sending me to a post about 80 less that I asked (I would put 2200 inthe goto field and actually go to post 2120 or so). Is this because of deleted or missing posts from that 'hiccup' we had a while back?

    Also...any news on that new search function?

    Just bein' a customer (I am a customer, right? ;-) )

  • joef4570joef4570 Posts: 29
    Just in case you haven't seen it. Updated 4/16/01.

  • menswearmenswear Posts: 11
    I know Nissan is offering 3.9% over 5 years. I want to finance for 3 years....can I get the same rate? Does anyone know what the rate would be for 3 years?

    One more side question, is there a light on the dash (or some other reminder) when you engage 4wd?

  • smithmdsmithmd Posts: 167
    I don't know if they are offering 3.9% for 3 years, but you could just finance for 5 years at that rate and then pay it off in 3 years. Most of the time there is no penalty for early payment. Accept their 5 year financing and then figure out what the payment would be given the amount you finance and the interest rate over 36 months instead of 60. Make the payment that you figured instead of the payment the bank is expecting and at the end of 3 years the truck will be paid off!

    4x4 light: on my 99.5, there is a little green light in the tachometer face that comes on when I shift into 4wd.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
  • How good is the navigation system in the pathfinder and is it worth the extra money to get?
  • skips2skips2 Posts: 52
    I too have heard different recommendations regarding what octane of gas is really required in the Nissan Pathfinder and Maxima. Recently, I read an article as to why it is important in the long run to use the higher octane fuel recommended by many manufacturers, including Nissan. It goes something like this:

    Newer cars have sensors that prevent engine pinging when a lower grade of fuel is used. Hence, the old pinging theory really is not a good indicator as to whether or not you need to use a higher octane of fuel. When a lower octane fuel is used, computers retard the engine timing, which prevents the pinging from happening. No news here since many of you already knew that. This was the kicker for me. By retarding the engine timing, the engine runs hotter and it expels higher levels of pollutants. The result of long term usage of a lower octane fuel than recommended is possible engine damage and premature failure of the catalytic converter.

    Based upon these facts, I have decided its better to pay a little extra for premium gas. Also, the article stated that when the engine timing is retarded, fuel economy is reduced. Hence, the few pennies per gallon that you are saving when buying lower octane fuel, are often lost through reduced miles per gallon.

    The article was located at
  • skips2skips2 Posts: 52
    Here's the article that I referred to above.

    Demystifying Octane Ratings
    A gasoline's octane rating quantifies its resistance to knocking and pinging. These two sounds are caused by abnormal combustion, which robs power and can damage an engine. Knocking and pinging are basically the same thing; knocking is louder and represents a more serious condition. When they occur, it is during acceleration, though higher engine speeds tend to drown them out. Knocking sounds like someone repeatedly rapping the engine with a hammer, and the quieter pinging resembles marbles being shaken inside a tin can.

    Many conditions in the engine itself can cause or promote combustion anomalies, but when all other factors are equal, gasoline with a higher octane rating is more resistant to knocking and pinging than a lower-octane fuel. So why doesn't everyone just use high-octane gasoline? Because it is more expensive, and there is no advantage whatsoever in using premium gasoline in a car that doesn't specifically require it. At one time, only premium gasoline included additives that prevent fuel-injector clogging; now, all grades are basically the same in this regard.
    If your car requires high-octane gasoline and you habitually use regular gas because the engine exhibits no sign of knock, you're outsmarting yourself. Most modern, computer-controlled engines include a knock sensor that detects knock and retards the ignition timing, causing the spark plugs to fire slightly later in the cycle. This typically prevents abnormal combustion and knock, which allows vehicles specified for premium fuel to run on lower-grade gasoline if it is all that's available. While this removes the immediate hazard, it's a bad idea to make a habit of running a vehicle on gasoline of lower-than-recommended octane. Retarding the spark causes a richer fuel/air mixture, which decreases fuel economy, increases emissions, causes the engine to run hotter, and reduces the longevity of both the engine itself and the catalytic converter. The money you save by pumping low-grade fuel into a car that demands higher octane is lost anyway, in decreased fuel economy and possibly gradual damage.
    Your vehicle's owner's manual usually recommends an octane rating in terms of an Antiknock Index (AKI), which also is posted on gasoline pumps. The AKI is the average of two ratings determined in a laboratory: the Research Octane Number (RON), which corresponds with low-speed, mild-knocking conditions, and the Motor Octane Number (MON), which covers high-speed, high-temperature knocking conditions and part-throttle operation.
    In general, three grades of gasoline are available in the United States: regular (AKI = 87), midgrade (AKI = 89) and premium (AKI = 91 to 94). The posted gasoline AKIs are lower in the Rocky Mountain states because less octane is needed at higher altitudes. Motorists whose cars require 91 octane fuel may find themselves at filling stations that offer only 89 and 93 octane, but nothing in between. In these cases, the options are to pay more for the 93 octane or to fill the tank halfway with 93 and the rest with 89. The resulting gasoline mixture, just like the average of their two AKI numbers, will equal 91 octane.
  • I opted for it in the LE and now can't believe I was "on the fence" about it when shopping around. It rocks! I would have preferred it to be a DVD based system that covers the whole country on one disc, but now that my cross-country trip is done, the one CD will suit me just fine. There are places I've been going to for years that I never knew the fastest way to get there. Like...I knew this one place was on Washington Avenue about 6 miles from me...I'd just get on Washington and schlep it through traffic and redlights...heck, it was only 20 minutes...I punched in the address in the nav system and it tells me to take a left...What? THAT'S not the way!!! Okay...I'll try this out for grins. It puts me on a freeway entrance heading East through Los what? "In about one mile, exit on the right. Then in about 2-tenths of a mile, stay to the left" says. REALLY? I dunno... "You have reached your destination on the left hand side. Ending route guidance." ...and there it was. 10 minutes! I couldn't believe it! I programed in all my friend's addresses and frequently visited locations. Now, where ever I am, I just hit "Local Pub" and it takes me right there! Now if I could just get it to call me a taxi for the ride home... : )

    As an added benefit, placing the nav system in the dash moves the 6-disc "coin-slot" type cd changer to a "magazine" style changer in the passenger side of the rear cargo compartment. I've heard a few rumblings about the "err 2" message on the "coin-slot" type and was happy to get the old tried and true type.

    In my opinion, worth every dime.

    Captain Ron. . .
  • Thanks to all for the feedback on octane levels for our '01 PF LE. This board is a wealth of information!

    Al & Ann
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    Very good fuel article!! What is the difference between winter fuel and summer
    fuel? Also what is used in modern fuel to produce the highter octane? What
    fuel milage are you getting with your PF? (17-20) The antiknock senser on
    our PF only retards the timming when it detects a spark knock. Steve
  • jmtreetopjmtreetop Posts: 130
    Glad the octane issue is settled. Sent it to some friends, very helpful. Went to get tires rotated today and I had been keeping my tires at 34 psi. They told me it was messing up the sidewalls so they lowered it to 26 which they said was recommended for that tire, not just for Nissan's cushion ride. I'm not sure how it was messing up the sidewalls but they said not to drive on it that high. No, this wasn't at Nissan either. Interesting. BTW, when I checked my tires psi after 4 hours on the highway at 40 degree weather it was at 38 psi. Im sure it would easily be in the 40's if it was like 80 outside. I think I'll just leave it at 26-28 since I have received the second opinion and not just Nissan's.
  • georgeb7georgeb7 Posts: 35
    A few of you mentioned 3.9 for 5 years. Can you tell me what states have that? I am in California and I only see 5.9 for 5 years. If I could get 3.9 for 5 years, I would probably buy tomorrow.
  • jimxojimxo Posts: 423
    Motortrend reports a new larger and re designed PF for 2002. I reviewed the last 140 post here and have not heard any mention.

    I contacted my local dealer and was told not for a couple of years. What is MT talking about?

    Any information would be greatly appreciated!
  • filodfilod Posts: 189
    Bought my LE on President's day and I got the $5,000 off MSRP (slightly less than invoice) and the 3.9% for five years

    I live in the SF bay area. I looked at the Friday newspaper and one is still giving the 3.9% for the PF for 5 years. If your dealer is not offering, wait for a while or look around.

    They usually advertise starting on a Friday and ends on a Sunday. I have seen the 3.9% since February. I think the promo is still on. It is Nissan giving this not the dealer so it should be nationwide but probably not on a continueous basis. They do it on the Xterra on one week, on the PF on some dealers but it is still on. Where I bought, they are offering the 3.9% for the Maxima and Frontier this week.
  • jmtreetopjmtreetop Posts: 130
    I doubt that Nissan would redesign the Pfinder so quickly especially since the 2002's will be coming out in around 4 months. I think they might have been originally planning it for 2002 a few years back but put it off and put in the bigger engine instead. I have heard rumors but all of them had been for the next several years. Motor Trend is either smoking crack again or they just haven't updated their site since the rumors originally came out.
  • kbehnkekbehnke Posts: 60
    According to, their model matrix shows that the PF will be redesigned(increase in size and capacity) in 2003.
  • the outside temp guage on your 01 PF starts to read 10-15 degrees higher than the actual temp ;-).
  • joef4570joef4570 Posts: 29
    "I know Nissan is offering 3.9% over 5 years. I want to finance for 3 years....can I get the same rate? Does anyone know what the rate would be for 3 years?"

    I just did this, Nissan will let you finance for less than 5 years at the same 3.9%.
  • menswearmenswear Posts: 11
    I just wanted to thank everyone on this board for all the info. I took the plunge yesterday and put a deposit on a 2001 PF SE 4x4, Auto. I bought it for Invoice - $300 cashback, comes out to about $27.8. The dealer just has to find the color that I want (Silver, black, or white). Can't wait!
  • mazadimazadi Posts: 26
    Does anyone else find it annoying that the outside temp gauge is totally inaccurate? I know you're supposed to drive for a while for it to calibrate, but mine is always about 10 degrees too high. Is this an issue with just my car, or is it simply due to poor placement of the sensor? Has anyone tried to fix this?
  • johnskevjohnskev Posts: 98
    i'm trying to find the online/phone dealer that people have gotten quotes from. i'm helping a buddy look for a new vehicle, and people here have had luck with some phone in or online place that gets one in a requested area for cheap. maybe it pits dealers against each other? i don't remember the name and i've just searched for an hour on this board and can't find any reference to it. am i making sense?

  • sanandtonsanandton Posts: 342
    I noticed this right away on my 01 PF last april. I took my PF in and the dealer said "sorry" can't do a thing. Maybe if enough of us complain to Nissan they will do something.
  • kbehnkekbehnke Posts: 60
    Does anyone know if the oil filters for the '01 can be purchased anywhere besides the dealership - either at parts stores or online? My dealership is about 30 minutes away so I don't want to have to make a special trip unless I have to.

  • jsfoxjsfox Posts: 1
    I just purchase my new 2001 SE Pathfinder which has the manually adjusted seats. The head room is right on the edge for me and it would be great to get another 1" (yes, I have the seat at it's lowest position). Looking under the seat it looks like the seat mounts could be modified to lower the seat. Anyone know if there are aftermarket parts to accomplish this? Seems like it would be a simple set of parts and a very welcome improvement.
  • path01path01 Posts: 14
    Having had 3 Nissan VQ powered cars with the PF being the fourth, I can state that changing to synth. oil at 1,000 miles has had absolutely no adverse effects. No oil consumption, no leakage, etc. As a matter of fact, I have switched to synth. oil on all my cars at 1K since 1976 with no bad results (always use Mobil 1).

    I do not notice the temperature differential some of you speak about concerning the outside temp gauge. It is normal for the gauge to read erroneously after sitting , but after a few miles, mine seems to be accurate (01 Pathfinder).
  • Does anyone have a recommendation for the best
    product to use on the suede seat covers for getting off scuff marks? Will it also work on the
    headline fabric. Thanks in advance.
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