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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
The start stop on my 2.5 engine does not engage if I let up on the brake pressure just before coming to a dead stop--still keeping pressure on to stop, but not using the full force of a normal traffic stop. Some people on the Malibu forum go crazy trying to defeat the auto start/stop in some way. It becomes their goal in life, sort of like those who worked to defeat DRLs. But the easy method is what I just suggested. Of course, you could bypass the hood latch detector so it thinks the hood is open.
Glad to hear the saga is over. It's interesting to hear the GM's reaction.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
No, we haven't.
Besides, have you ever experienced dealings with Ford corporate on warranty or other issues? They are notoriously awful.
Yet again, enough with the GM bashing.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I still think there's a dealer component to GG's problem because of the near downtown selling dealer--there's something fishy there. This is the kind of advertising that money can't buy: but it's been the wrong kind of advertising for Cadillac division.
What kind of buyback experiences have people had with problematic cars from other companies? I recall back when I bought my 03 that a few Accords were bought back by Honda because of the popping noise when the body twisted in a driveway transition to street situation. The one I test drove did that, along with a few other things I didn't like, such as wandering, feeling every pebble through the steering and chassis, and wind noise.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
plenty of stories about every make similar to GGs. Including Honda.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
even worse, it was full of leaves (the parking lot there has a lot of trees). Opened the trunk, and they practically buried me. A ton under the hood too. So that took a while to clean (heck, I even had to vacuum them out of the intake manifold!) Took a while, but all looking new inside and out again.
I hate trees near parking.
She did say that the trip up this AM from southern VA showed as 38+ on the TC. running probably in the low 70 range most of the way (one of the rare trips from Richmond to Philly with absolutely no traffic delays!).
Nice car. I forgot how much I like the seats, and how good the profile is with the black wheels.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
WSJ
"The Environmental Protection Agency and California regulators said on Friday that all 2009-2016 Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche diesel models with three-liter engines contain software regulators previously alleged could dupe emissions tests, a violation of U.S. and state clean-air laws.
"Europe’s largest auto maker has halted sales of all those vehicles in the U.S. amid discussions with regulators, a company spokeswoman said. All told, 85,000 models are affected by regulators’ latest allegations."
One of the comments after the article:
"It is sad to me to see a company I had held in high esteem be guilty of such blatant deception. I have owned several VWs over the years and always found them to exceed expectations. None of mine were diesels. I am in the market for a new car, and spotted a new and beautiful white Beetle convertible at our Wausau, WI dealer the other day and was very much lured to it. But I find myself in a position now where I don't know what I don't know, but I do know where there's smoke there's a fire. So I am compelled to go to another brand."
Contrast that to this comment about the same article:
"s the owner of a 2012 VW Toureg TDI, I am shocked and amazed that this news took over 2-months since the story broke on the 2.0 TDI emissions scandal.
"You would find it certain that the EPA was testing the daylights out of all VW diesel motors in the wake of this incident.
"Fortunately, I live in a state that does not emissions test. And I don't plan to have my vehicle "modified" to perform worse or use more fuel."
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mako...I agree. sell it today, or 6 months from now, it won't make much difference in its value.
Pretty rainy and nasty in my 'burg today. So, will have to wait for pics.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
No, we haven't.
All I'm saying is GGs experience has scared me off of considering a GM product until I see more evidence in their favor. I will be surprised if GG buys another GM product in the next decade, or ever.
I doubt I will be buying another Audi or VW product, and I haven't bought a Volvo since our 1992 fiasco.
Land Rovers are at the bottom of the reliability charts all the time, I won't be buying one of those. Same for Fiat.
Well, at least I am an equal opportunity basher...no bias, I bash based on merit.
I do agree that probably all car companies are the same in this regard, but, once it actually happens it just makes me not want to take the risk.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Let us know your impressions in a few days....will it be a keeper?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
All I'm saying is GGs experience has scared me off of considering a GM product until I see more evidence in their favor. I will be surprised if GG buys another GM product in the next decade, or ever.
I doubt I will be buying another Audi or VW product, and I haven't bought a Volvo since our 1992 fiasco.
Land Rovers are at the bottom of the reliability charts all the time, I won't be buying one of those. Same for Fiat.
Well, at least I am an equal opportunity basher...no bias, I bash based on merit.
I do agree that probably all car companies are the same in this regard, but, once it actually happens it just makes me not want to take the risk.
Well said driver. Honestly, I don't know why anyone would stick up for a car manufacturer. We all have ones we like and dislike but none of them are perfect. I've had good luck with Toyota recently but I know folks have bad feelings from the oil glazing issue, not to mention UA...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Not sure they've been all that successful. In many ways, it's the same old GM. In my case with Cadillac, it was the same old GM...not stepping up to support their product and in fact, trying to sidestep fixing a faulty product.
Yes, that makes me angry. I dropped $40K+ large on what is supposed to be one of the "top of the heap" products that Cadillac, GM's premium brand, makes. It drove worse than a 15 year old salvaged Accent with 150K miles.
My belief is, given my Mother's issues that I took care of with Cadillac, and now my own personal issues, yes....I'm allowed to bash.
Some asked about the original selling dealer. It's an inner city dealer. They're stand alone, and they aren't owned by any bigger conglomerate. They were shady 10 years ago when I was dealing with my Mother's Cadillac dealership. Given the dealership personnel (dealing with the family who owns the dealership) I was working with and the fact that every car my family bought from them seemed to have more than just delivery miles (usually a few hundred, up to a 1,000 miles), and was listed as "new" tells me there was something amiss. Couldn't quite put my finger on the problems.
So, drove around last night. Initial impressions are the same. It drives a hulluva lot better than the '14. They've quietly updated the amount of content, without raising the price. Apple Car Play is just one update that makes the CUE system eminently more functional. CUE is way faster, too.
"Start/Stop" will take some getting used to. But, out of all the cars I've driven with that technology (BMW and Mercedes), the Cadillac's is the best implementation.
The CTS always handled well....very well, as a matter of fact. It has a very nice ride/handling feel. Some of that I would think comes from the magnetic shocks. If I had to do over again (which will NEVER happen), I'd get the 19" wheels. The upgraded 18" I got are better than the 17" that are standard, but I would want even more tire.
Most companies who are making AWD vehicles (which seems to be everyone in this segment) have also adopted the torque vectoring that was originally brought to the mass market by Acura and Audi. Cadillac has their own version. They all work well. You can take corners at a higher rate of speed than you think is possible, and the car just tracks the corner.
It feels quicker, as mentioned before. Mentioned I always liked the 2.0T. I do love those torquey turbo motors. The Cadillac's is a good one. I think the 8-speed trans has a lot to do with the quicker feeling. My guess? Upper 5 sec range 0-60. Certainly not going to scare any 6 cyl turbo motors out there, but quick nonetheless.
Steering is smooth and responsive with good road feel. Hard to believe I put up with the steering on the '14 as long as I did. I drove it so long that I had almost forgotten how it was supposed to drive.
1/2 tank of gas in, computer says I'm getting 24 MPG. Not sure about this CTS, but the last one's computer was deadly accurate in stating actual MPG. In the '14, I was getting on average about 22 MPG. Initially, this one looks to get about 2 MPG better. So, the 8-speed and the auto start/stop are doing their thing, apparently.
Overall, good car, made better.
That won't stop me from trading it the first opportunity. I've been screwed by Cadillac for the last time.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Generally, reviewers and buyers seem to really like their CTS's.
I thought if you liked it you would probably keep it. Usually it ends up in 1st place when compared to the competition.
Or, is it a matter of trust and ethics?
We loved driving the A4, and we got it repaired and could have kept driving it, but we just didn't trust the company or the car any more. It sounds like you might feel the same.....good car but when you lose the trust, how do you still enjoy your car?
For ab it is very different, his car is working well and he trusts the brand, and most of the people who buy Caddies are liking them. If you get burned it is hard to go back.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/5327513949.html
https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/5327382505.html
https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/5327081292.html
You would think these scammers would switch up some of the copy between ads. Does anybody know what language that is at the bottom?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
A dissenting view...
To say "we bailed them out, but they haven't changed" is not correct. They are building much better vehicles, and are a very different company with totally different management. But having said that, they are a mega-billion dollar corporation. You're in business, so you know what that means. They are not a charity, in the business of giving things away. They have many, many layers of management, who are responsible for turning in financial returns. It's just the nature of the beast. I seriously doubt any auto manufacturer would be much different. I think you hit the nail on the head with the diagnosis of the problem largely being the selling dealer. They do sound very questionable and Cadillac would be well-advised, I think, to reconsider whether that is the kind of operation they have representing them in your market. But as we all know here, the dealer system is always the weak link in any reputation chain between the manufacturer and the consumer.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
#1 and #3 were spotted for removal.
#2 sounds suspicious, a 2003 Murano in excellent condition with lots of extras for an unbelievable $1500.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Problem is going to be finding a replacement that works. CTS set the functional bar pretty high. So you are going to have to lay out some serious $$ to exceed it, or settle for less (which I doubt you want to do!).
Maybe the C class MB. Loved the one I saw parked the other day. Maybe one of the BMWs. Can't see infiniti, and not sure a TLX competes. And that is about it, right?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
ab said A dissenting view...
To say "we bailed them out, but they haven't changed" is not correct. They are building much better vehicles, and are a very different company with totally different management.. But as we all know here, the dealer system is always the weak link in any reputation chain between the manufacturer and the consumer.
ab, I have a slightly dissenting view too.
The dealer may not be great, but it is ultimately the responsibility of the actual company to fix the problem. Please don't say I am bashing....Cadillacs are obviously well made good cars, that are beautiful and well designed.
But, when the dealer didn't come through then the manufacturer should have been there to see what the problem was. No one should have to go through what GG did. That's not bashing, those are the facts. Cadillac can make the best cars in the world, but, if they build a faulty one they have to fix it, or the warranty is useless. If all car companies are the same, then we should be careful with any car we buy and we have to cross our fingers and hope we got a good one....but, I wouldn't risk buying from a company that I know doesn't stand behind their product.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Maybe a Nigerian prince is thinning out his fleet.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
On a related, more general subject, Cadillac's dealer network is two or three times too big for the current volume they sell. It may be good for people to find better prices and improve access in smaller cities, but it also weakens and dilutes the premium brand experience. In current volumes, the dealers are bound to struggle financially and be compelled to foces on survival and gaming the system rather than satisfying the customer, souring what happens after the sale, which GG was a victim. His experience would be unacceptable at a Kia store, let alone at a store of a brand with such a legacy (even if somewhat faded) and aspirations.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
I turn it off as soon as I start the E400. If I forget, I do the same, gently remove my foot from the brake before it totally stops. If I come up to a long light or a train for example, I press the restart button, brake a little harder than usual and the engine shuts off.
I think the car might even learn my habits and just doesn't bother turning the engine off most of the time. Not a big deal, just disabling it when I start, and it is kind of nice to have the engine shut down if I am stopped for a few minutes.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I always liked these when I sat in them at the car show, but have never driven one. Might have to go check one out in person some day.
Not positive, but I think engine stop/start would drive me nuts. unless it was totally undetectable.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
ive vey been following your posts all weekend & want to offer my congratulations to you. You fought hard & got a fantastic result! Mazel-Tov & congratulations! Please proceed directly to CCBA to register your punch!
NJ guys (speaking of, where is @fezo), I was at a wedding in Red Bank over the weekend. That's quite a town. Parked on the street I saw an MB SLS AMG, an Alfa Romeo 8C, a slew of AMGs & ///M cars.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
The Audi fiasco is definitely nothing for them to write home about. However, remembering Mike's troubles with injectors couple of years ago, Benz's efforts to fix it would be something fo Cadillac to measure themselves against.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
I gave Cadillac and both dealers numerous opportunites to fix the car. I gave Cadillac the opportunity to just return my money, after months and months of continuously taking time out of my work week to take the car in, and numerous opportunites to fix safety issues, all unsuccessful. Finally, after realizing they weren't going to win in arbitration, Cadillac ends up paying even more, to what end?
There's my entire story.
Whatever Cadillac is thinking, it can't be good. As far as their story? I'd love to hear what they were thinking.
They only gave GG a new car because they knew he would win if it went any further, and they probably would have had to pay treble damages. They were probably happy to get out of it by trading.......they are trading a new car but at cost price.....not a huge loss for them.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250