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Ditto on mini-vans.
W = Germany
3 = Mexico
9 = Brazil
Passat/Jetta Wagon are German built.
Jetta sedan/Beetle are Mexican built.
Golf/Golf GTI are Brazilian built (for N. American Market)
I am told that until software updates are made, which are not yet ready by the manufacturer, that initial shuddering may take place during a cold start.
My vehicle has < 25,000 miles, and not only has the noted cold start difficulty, it also loses power initially until totally warmed up and has cut off in the driveway and the street on several occasions. Letting it warm up in the driveway does not seem to make a difference as far as the loss of power when accelerating, it has to be driven for a while to stop stalling out. Also, everytime I pick it up from service the check engine light comes back on within a few days.
So far, the dealership has replaced the Electronic control module twice, replaced the whole turbo unit, a turbo valve, resealed the o-rings in the turbo, replaced the mass airflow meter 3 times, the front 02 sensor twice, the rear 02 sensor, and the temperature gauge to "remedy" the problem?
Any advice, aside from the clear lemon law case? The car handles great after I drive it to warm it up about 10 minutes, and unfortunately even with lemon law I will experience some loss financially due to the mileage on the vehicle...should I just give up on fixing it? Anyone out there with similar complaints and/or suggestions for the 1.8 T?
Thanks for any assistance.
I love the handling and the styling of the car, but I am a bit concerned about the overall reliability of VWs. I have very hectic schedule and cannot afford a car that has to be taken to the dealership every other month.
Any comments from owners of 99 Jetta GLS or similar models would be welcome.
Thank You.
In terms of service, each car has needed to go to the dealer twice in the almost 3 years that I owned them. The service was completed in one day each time.
If the Jetta you're buying has already had the window regulators replaced, then the most common problem with this model has already been addressed and shouldn't give you any more trouble.
Based on my own experience and what I read in these boards, you may spend one additional day at the car repair shop every 18 months over what you would expect from a similarly priced Honda or Toyota.
Just my opinion ....
good luck.
It's a pain though to have to leave my car at the dealer to have them look at this rather than just wait for the oil change.......
Yes, one of my Jettas had a similar rattle. One techncian called it an oil pan cover, and another service writer called it a heat shield. Anyway, it can get loose when you drive over a speed bump or similar object. The dealer fixed it when I brought the car in for routine service.
If I am not mistaken, there is one ignitor for each sparkplug. Since there are 4 of them, you have 3 more of the possible devective ones that may fail after the first one was replaced.
I need advise from you regarding Lemon Law, it seems you have much experience that I do! you
wrote on you message "unfortunately even with lemon law I will experience some loss financially due to the mileage on the vehicle..." Can you please explain further? I will file a case for Lemon Law with my 2002 Jetta 1.8T I have similar problems as your car pluse coil problems. My question is, eventhough you get a new car under lemon law for your old vehicle, do they deduct milage used?
thanks!
Meade
And now, the CEL. I called the dealership here and they said that if it's not flashing it's no big deal. Having had a previous bad experience with a Chevy Corsica and it's CEL, I'm skeptical.
Suggestions? Comments?
The CEL could mean you didn't tighten the gas cap when refueling the last time. Flashing is bad news, but with it on that's not as bad.
You are correct that it is a 'sealed' system but that just means that you do not check the level in the radiator... instead you check the overflow tank. (resivour)
There is a sensor that checks the level in the resivour. If the level is right on the edge of triggering the sensor, cold weather will make the antifreeze contract (level go down) and trigger the alert.
Just put a splash of antifreeze in the resivour and you will be all set. If your dealer is any good, they will do this for you at no charge. It will take less than 2 cups of fluid to fix the problem.
Keep in mind that VW's major services are 40/80/120 and not the typical 30/60/90...
The Glysantin product is produced in Pittsburgh for the North American market by the Ashland Chemical company, the same company that makes Valvoline products. They package and sell the Glysantin G30 only to the VW/Audi dealerships through VW/Audi of North America.
Regardless, this is getting a little out of hand now. They need to fix the car quickly, or do a recall or something.
Also, the W8 in the Passat and the 24V VR6 have had coil problems too, from what I have read.
I'm contemplating taking over the lease of an early-2002 Jetta GLX with the 12-valve VR6 engine. It currently has 24K km. Does this version of the VR6 have the engine coil problem? What other problems should I be aware of? I need to know this since I am constantly on the going from one obligation to another and cannot afford to have the car break down on me.
Thanks in advance!
Bernard
the coils might be an issue here and there, just like with any car, but not a PLAGUE like the 1.8T engines...
with the old VR6 you MUST keep it maintained, and ask for service records. it will treat you well, even over the long haul, but you CANNOT abuse it. lovely sounding engine, thats for sure.
Answer 1: Maintenance every 16K km (10K mi)link:
http://www.arbourvw.com/en/service/entretien.shtml
Answer 2: Oil change every 8k km (5k mi), then oil change and maintenance 8k km after that):
http://www.sarniafinecars.com/Service/maintenance.htm
Also, is there an in-dash CD player in all 2002s?
bszeto
Your message #2488 mentioned the 1.8T PLAGUE :-[. Does this plague sweep over into the 2003 Jetta GLS 1.8T??? What kind of problems??? My Jetta hadn't been on the road very long and wondering what symptoms I should be looking for with this engine???
Where else could you go, up and down the Internet, to get this kind of help and information! Isn't this fun??? ;-)
Enjoy your Jetta
Carrie ~2002 Honda Civic EX Sedan owner
Is this a joke? From what I have heard, the coils are the ONLY issue with the 1.8T, which has consistently been one of the top engines out there.
target - not joking. not laughing. god i wish i was
The only way to check if yours are affected (and if you own an 02, you more than likely are) is to check the serial number directly on the ignition coil at the top by the connector. Don't ask me where the coils are though, I don't know personally. They are easy to get to though, I have heard.