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Now if they had to change the muffler bearing or headlight fluid... I could been taking out a new mortgage
As you know I'm in PA too and those state inspections get pretty pricy when you need a muffler bearing. I only got hit with that once about 4 years ago. I sure am glad the guy I have been going to for about 18 years is pretty honest. He said I won't need the headlight fluid changed until I hit 20K miles.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
jmonroe
Actually, I wouldn't mind an ATS-V. But a van? Never.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Mike,
It's nice to have you back. Driver kept us updated, but it's nice to "see" you in person.
2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport
2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Mike, can you please cinch up your kimono? We're seeing way too much on the camera.
Son of a gun! They did install a camera in my boudoir! Is there nothing sacred anymore?
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Here's an update - supposedly the LS460 and it's longer wheel base version the LS460-L are up for a redesign for model year 2018, according to some research I've done.
The reason I asked this question is that I was out today on my usual activities (visiting new car showrooms) and I test drove the 2017 LS460. My first impressions of the car had to do more with ride and handling - this is definitely not a German engineered car (yes I know, it's made in Japan). Even though it is lower to the center of gravity than the older model version (LS430), it still rides and handles a bit soft when compared to a BMW, Audi or Mercedes. Engine seems more than adequate to move the car quickly through traffic or on the interstates, but there is just something lacking on this car that is inherent in most European cars - in other words, that can best be described as a "cushiness" to the feel of the car on the road.
Other than the "cushy" feel (in comparison to German engineered cars that are stiffer and quicker to react to steering input), the vehicle is definitely a great luxury car. Just trying to figure out the technology in this car and how to get the most out of it would take weeks of intensive study and many refresher courses at the dealership. Compared to my Mercedes, the LS460 is just one giant computer with technology output overwhelming me and oozing out from just about every crevice in this car. It's definitely a vehicle that would take months to really figure out. Luckily, it still possesses a start button, an accelerator pedal and a brake pedal - otherwise, I'd be at a loss to drive this car.
As for pricing, it is right in line with European competitors, perhaps a few thousand less to own. But the ride on the interstate was terrific. But don't get me wrong, the BMW 740i (or 750i) happens to be the best driving car I've every had the pleasure of operating. However, the LS460 is definitely no slouch. Plenty of rear seat room, comfortable front seating and styling that is more typical of the Asian influence than the European influence. I like this car - but I love the BMW 740i.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
You know, I just read something in the last week about the LS - how old the current body style is.
Can't remember if it's scheduled to be replaced anytime soon.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I think I just read something about a new LS coming along in 2018 or so.
It's nice to have you back. Driver kept us updated, but it's nice to "see" you in person.
Hi venture.  
They say to cover those little cameras on your computer....hackers get in and can watch you!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
At least you didn't happen to catch Mike when he was break dancing in his birthday suit.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Made me think my wife was wrong when she said I was annoying.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
LS is a very nice car. I don't know if I would buy a new one though - a 2-3 year old one will still be many tens of thousands cheaper, and is barely different from a new one - less changes than the Germans. A 3 year old LS is probably a good car to buy and drive for a decade with few worries. You just have to like the iso-tank ethos of it. LS600h might be the one to get, a hen's tooth hybrid that wasn't built for economy.
We got our first snow fall today, a good 2 inches of it and of course the roads were bad. Bad enough that a large pickup coming out of a new home construction site couldn't stop coming down the hill from site, took out a stop sign, went across a 2 lane road and T-boned right into DIL #2 while she was driving their van. She is OK and so is the guy in the pickup but from the pictures Son #2 saw and what the police said the van is more than likely totaled.
It's a good thing the kids weren't in the car because the truck hit the driver's side sliding door which is right where my granddaughter usually sits. All of the air bags on that side went off too. So they did what they were supposed to do. My DIL said the skin on the sliding door was pulled completely off and was jammed onto the pickups bumper. There is also a lot of damage to the rear quarter panel but fortunately the gas tank was not hit. The driver's door although not hit directly was jammed so she had to climb over the console to get out on the passenger side. She's pretty nimble, I guess.
My Son now has the pleasure of being ripped off for the totaled book value they are going to give him for his van. I can't remember what year it is but I think it is a 2011 KIA but it is worth more to him than what the insurance company is going to give him. He liked that van, as much as a guy can like a van, but his wife liked it a lot. I guess I'll have another sales tale from him to pass on but for the wrong reason.
Like I said DIL #2 is OK but she has to see how she feels when she gets up tomorrow morning but so far so good.
TO BE CONTIUED
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
His thinking is BMW isn't interested in supporting their product beyond 6 to 8 years, even their service departments aren't interested in working on them. He says Lexus supports their product for a long time and he likes to keep his cars for a long time.....like his BMW is 30 years old.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The question is, when the "get rid of the speed bump committee" makes our presentation are there things the speed bump does that has a negative impact on our cars? That would make our case stronger.
There is one board member who thinks he is a genius for getting the new speed bump put in, he doesn't want to give it up.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
We have had a lot of accidents around here lately....we went for years with never an accident. Just a guess but people are more distracted and careless than ever....I hope this isn't a trend.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Oh well.
Hope it works out as well as it can for your family.
@jmonroe, That sounds like a scary accident. Glad everyone's ok. You guys are making me nervous about taking my brand new car over the speed bumps and out into the big world.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
And yeah, the film on mine is "in the mail".
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Putting speed bumps too close to the stop signs is really ineffective in getting cars to stop appropriately. A better solution is to put a Sherman Tank at each stop sign with its cannon turret pointed in the direction of the stop sign intersection. Then have it fire upon cars not stopping for the stop sign. It won't take long for the residents and visitors to obey stop signs after that!
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Great answer...I'll mention it at the board meeting next month.
Also like RBs solution.
Some people have golf carts...that can't be too safe!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
RR, how are the sales duties going. Making that quota?
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Edit: I should clarify that. They have to do the emission testing since their computer is tied directly to DMV so no more ramming an iron bar through the CAT to fix poor performance. But the rest of the inspection might be done with a pencil whip.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
Still sort of like the IS350 F Sport and the GS550 F Sport, however.
Neighbor has a 750iL. Not sure the year, but it's a recent vintage. Winter time we don't talk much, at least not as much as the warmer months since we don't hang outside all that much. But, last summer I remember him saying that while packed with technology, he only uses about ⅓ of it. Something to keep in mind...paying for "Stuff" you don't use.