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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    kyfdx said:

    Previously I got a deal through a broker on a 2017 Premium Plus that was:
    MSRP: $52,455
    $1200 out the door
    $565 a month
    36 months and 10,000 miles

    after that I got the deal from a few posts above:

    MSRP $51,225
    Sale price $43,683
    Residual 51% $26,124.75
    MF .00011
    $1200 out the door
    $550 a month 
    36 months 10,000 miles
    Adjusted cap cost $43,972.71

    If everything is equal and the difference in MSRP is $1,230 shouldn't the monthly of the cheaper car be closer to $30 less. So around $535-$540 versus $550?

    You are confusing CAP cost reductions with lower MSRPs.

    On a specified deal, if the price changes by $1000, the payment changes by about $30/mo. (for a 36 month lease)

    But, if you have a $50K MSRP vehicle and the payment is $500 mo., then a $49K MSRP vehicle would be about $490/mo., all else being equal.
    So even if the sale amount between the two cars is equal so:

    MSRP $51,000 sale price $46,000
    MSRP $50,000 sale price $45,000

    so the cap cost reduction is a $1,000 difference that still only makes the monthly payment $10 less?
  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2017
    what would the MF and Residual be on 36/12 in SoCal for premium plus?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    kyfdx said:

    Previously I got a deal through a broker on a 2017 Premium Plus that was:
    MSRP: $52,455
    $1200 out the door
    $565 a month
    36 months and 10,000 miles

    after that I got the deal from a few posts above:

    MSRP $51,225
    Sale price $43,683
    Residual 51% $26,124.75
    MF .00011
    $1200 out the door
    $550 a month 
    36 months 10,000 miles
    Adjusted cap cost $43,972.71

    If everything is equal and the difference in MSRP is $1,230 shouldn't the monthly of the cheaper car be closer to $30 less. So around $535-$540 versus $550?

    You are confusing CAP cost reductions with lower MSRPs.

    On a specified deal, if the price changes by $1000, the payment changes by about $30/mo. (for a 36 month lease)

    But, if you have a $50K MSRP vehicle and the payment is $500 mo., then a $49K MSRP vehicle would be about $490/mo., all else being equal.
    So even if the sale amount between the two cars is equal so:

    MSRP $51,000 sale price $46,000
    MSRP $50,000 sale price $45,000

    so the cap cost reduction is a $1,000 difference that still only makes the monthly payment $10 less?
    It also depends on the residual - as a test, I used your prices with a 50% residual and .00015 MF.

    The payments are $14 different

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    what would the MF and Residual be on 36/12 in SoCal for premium plus?

    .00011 and 50%

    $1500 marketing allowance

    Complimentary first payment

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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    2017 Premium Plus S3
    MSRP $50,230
    Residual 50%
    MF .00011
    $535 monthly tax included
    36 months 12,000 miles
    $1200 out the door.

    Good deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    2017 Premium Plus S3
    MSRP $50,230
    Residual 50%
    MF .00011
    $535 monthly tax included
    36 months 12,000 miles
    $1200 out the door.

    Good deal?

    Adjusted cap cost?

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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    kyfdx said:
    Michaell said:
    Current rates for SoCal? Don't have complete #s yet, but how does this sound

    MSRP: $51,180
    $550 a month tax included
    36 months 10k miles
    Premium Plus or Prestige trim level? Selling price? Cash due at signing?
    Sorry...need to get selling price...premium plus and $1200 out the door....00011 MF...51% residual ($26,145.24)...got the same quote for MSRP $51,225 which is the one I'll end up going with
    .00011 MF and 51% residual $1500 marketing allowance $500 loyalty/conquest Complimentary 1st payment
    Ok so here it is with the selling price:

    MSRP $51,225
    Sale price $43,683
    Residual 51% $26,124.75
    MF .00011
    $1200 out the door
    $550 a month 
    36 months 10,000 miles
    With those numbers, I get $495/mo plus tax. What is the tax rate where you live? Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost, which is the selling price plus any taxes and fees you are not paying up front. That might explain the difference in payment.
    Adjusted cap cost is $43,972.71. 

    How do the numbers look?
    I get $551/mo, so pretty close to the dealer quote.
    Based on the current market is this a good deal?
  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    Michaell said:
    2017 Premium Plus S3 MSRP $50,230 Residual 50% MF .00011 $535 monthly tax included 36 months 12,000 miles $1200 out the door. Good deal?
    Adjusted cap cost?
     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161


    Michaell said:

    2017 Premium Plus S3
    MSRP $50,230
    Residual 50%
    MF .00011
    $535 monthly tax included
    36 months 12,000 miles
    $1200 out the door.

    Good deal?

    Adjusted cap cost?

     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?

    Without knowing the adjusted cap cost, we can only speculate.

    Base MF is always a good start, but there could be junk fees that inflate the payment.

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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    Michaell said:


    Michaell said:

    2017 Premium Plus S3
    MSRP $50,230
    Residual 50%
    MF .00011
    $535 monthly tax included
    36 months 12,000 miles
    $1200 out the door.

    Good deal?

    Adjusted cap cost?

     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?
    Without knowing the adjusted cap cost, we can only speculate.

    Base MF is always a good start, but there could be junk fees that inflate the payment.

    Ok, so getting the fee breakdown is definitely ideal then
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    Michaell said:


    Michaell said:

    2017 Premium Plus S3
    MSRP $50,230
    Residual 50%
    MF .00011
    $535 monthly tax included
    36 months 12,000 miles
    $1200 out the door.

    Good deal?

    Adjusted cap cost?

     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?
    Without knowing the adjusted cap cost, we can only speculate.

    Base MF is always a good start, but there could be junk fees that inflate the payment.
    Ok, so getting the fee breakdown is definitely ideal then

    Absolutely. Knowledge is power; the more you know, the less the dealer can take advantage of you.

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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    2017 Premium Plus S3 MSRP $50,230 Residual 50% MF .00011 $535 monthly tax included 36 months 12,000 miles $1200 out the door. Good deal?
    Adjusted cap cost?
     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?
    Without knowing the adjusted cap cost, we can only speculate. Base MF is always a good start, but there could be junk fees that inflate the payment.
    Ok, so getting the fee breakdown is definitely ideal then
    Absolutely. Knowledge is power; the more you know, the less the dealer can take advantage of you.


    This is what I got today. They're saying total drive off is my down payment of $1200 and monthly of $540. When I did the calculations versus the $530 monthly of a lower MSRP they were only $2 off of what I had gotten. But again I don't have a breakdown of the fees
  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61

    Here is a fee breakdown for my $550 offer on 10,000 miles. How does that look?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161


    Here is a fee breakdown for my $550 offer on 10,000 miles. How does that look?

    I don't see the attachment on this post.

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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    Michaell said:

    Here is a fee breakdown for my $550 offer on 10,000 miles. How does that look?
    I don't see the attachment on this post.
     Hopefully this can be viewed
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161


    Michaell said:


    Here is a fee breakdown for my $550 offer on 10,000 miles. How does that look?

    I don't see the attachment on this post.

     Hopefully this can be viewed

    I can open the attachment, but I don't see a selling price on the worksheet.

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  • plopez12808plopez12808 Member Posts: 61
    Michaell said:


    Michaell said:


    Here is a fee breakdown for my $550 offer on 10,000 miles. How does that look?

    I don't see the attachment on this post.

     Hopefully this can be viewed
    I can open the attachment, but I don't see a selling price on the worksheet.

    Update to the post above:

    MSRP - $51,225
    Sale price - $42,855
    Adjusted cap cost – 43,134
    Fee breakdown - $895 Bank Acquisition, $518 reg and state fees and doc fee, $90 cap cost reduction tax
    Monthly payment - $540.98
    $1200 out the door
    36 months 12,000 miles

    What do you think? I have another dealer who's S3 is a MSRP of $51,260 and he said he'd do $525 taxes included with $1500 down and the same fee structure as that listed above
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    Michaell said:


    Michaell said:


    Here is a fee breakdown for my $550 offer on 10,000 miles. How does that look?

    I don't see the attachment on this post.

     Hopefully this can be viewed
    I can open the attachment, but I don't see a selling price on the worksheet.
    Update to the post above:

    MSRP - $51,225
    Sale price - $42,855
    Adjusted cap cost – 43,134
    Fee breakdown - $895 Bank Acquisition, $518 reg and state fees and doc fee, $90 cap cost reduction tax
    Monthly payment - $540.98
    $1200 out the door
    36 months 12,000 miles

    What do you think? I have another dealer who's S3 is a MSRP of $51,260 and he said he'd do $525 taxes included with $1500 down and the same fee structure as that listed above


    Higher MSRP and a lower payment? I think dealer 2 ought to get your business.

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  • mnhotrodmnhotrod Member Posts: 13
    In case anyone cares: We just left Audi Richfield (Minnesota) without a deal. We are looking at a 2017 S3 with MSRP of $49410. We asked for $4400 off bringing the price to $45010. The finance guy walked up and said "Take it or leave it" best price he could do was $45900. We walked out. Not sure I'm happy or sad. Looking at some of the prices posted here, I'm tempted to start working out of state. Add to that, it looks like we are eligible for $500 Loyalty as we are leasing a 2015 A6 which has three payments left of $640.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    mnhotrod said:

    In case anyone cares: We just left Audi Richfield (Minnesota) without a deal. We are looking at a 2017 S3 with MSRP of $49410. We asked for $4400 off bringing the price to $45010. The finance guy walked up and said "Take it or leave it" best price he could do was $45900. We walked out. Not sure I'm happy or sad. Looking at some of the prices posted here, I'm tempted to start working out of state. Add to that, it looks like we are eligible for $500 Loyalty as we are leasing a 2015 A6 which has three payments left of $640.

    Would you have been willing to split the difference at $45500? End of the month, and dealers may be looking for that one sale to give them a volume bonus.

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  • mnhotrodmnhotrod Member Posts: 13
    Had he presented himself in a manner that allowed that to happen, yes, we would have walked away with a new S3.
  • newleaser11newleaser11 Member Posts: 18
    edited July 2017
    This is a lease quote on a 17' S3 Premium Plus fully loaded. 36/42mo 15k a year.
    I prob could of done a better job negoiating the price of the car. I'm terrible at that.



  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    This is a lease quote on a 17' S3 Premium Plus fully loaded. 36/42mo 15k a year.
    I prob could of done a better job negoiating the price of the car. I'm terrible at that.



    Yes, you want to target 6% off the sticker price as your selling price.

    And, we also suggest that you limit the up front cash to just the first payment and DMV / registration costs.

    .00011 MF for 36 months; .00031 for 42 months

    How many miles per year are you looking for

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  • maibad31maibad31 Member Posts: 48
    edited August 2017
    Any changes for August for a 2017 S3 36/7.5K for both P+ and Prestige?
    In Texas if there are any incentives
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    maibad31 said:

    Any changes for August for a 2017 S3 36/7.5K for both P+ and Prestige?
    In Texas if there are any incentives

    .00011 MF and 52%/51% residual for P+/Prestige
    $1500 marketing allowance
    $500 loyalty/conquest
    complimentary 1st payment

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  • jcarloughjcarlough Member Posts: 90
    You wouldn't happen to have lease info on the 2018 RS3 would you?

    36/10. Zip 99508 (if it matters).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    jcarlough said:

    You wouldn't happen to have lease info on the 2018 RS3 would you?

    36/10. Zip 99508 (if it matters).

    I've just started a 2018 S3 (and RS3) thread, here:

    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/46657/audi/s3/2018-audi-s3-lease-questions/p1?new=1

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  • mutsydogmutsydog Member Posts: 7
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    2017 Premium Plus S3 MSRP $50,230 Residual 50% MF .00011 $535 monthly tax included 36 months 12,000 miles $1200 out the door. Good deal?
    Adjusted cap cost?
     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?
    Without knowing the adjusted cap cost, we can only speculate. Base MF is always a good start, but there could be junk fees that inflate the payment.
    Ok, so getting the fee breakdown is definitely ideal then
    Absolutely. Knowledge is power; the more you know, the less the dealer can take advantage of you.


    This is what I got today. They're saying total drive off is my down payment of $1200 and monthly of $540. When I did the calculations versus the $530 monthly of a lower MSRP they were only $2 off of what I had gotten. But again I don't have a breakdown of the fees
    I bought this EXACT car for $480/month with tax, $0 out of pocket - sign and drive 
  • mozzee_mozzee_ Member Posts: 27
    mutsydog said:




    Michaell said:

    Michaell said:


    Michaell said:

    2017 Premium Plus S3
    MSRP $50,230
    Residual 50%
    MF .00011
    $535 monthly tax included
    36 months 12,000 miles
    $1200 out the door.

    Good deal?

    Adjusted cap cost?

     They haven't gotten back to me with that yet...based on everything else does this look good?
    Without knowing the adjusted cap cost, we can only speculate.

    Base MF is always a good start, but there could be junk fees that inflate the payment.
    Ok, so getting the fee breakdown is definitely ideal then
    Absolutely. Knowledge is power; the more you know, the less the dealer can take advantage of you.



    This is what I got today. They're saying total drive off is my down payment of $1200 and monthly of $540. When I did the calculations versus the $530 monthly of a lower MSRP they were only $2 off of what I had gotten. But again I don't have a breakdown of the fees

    I bought this EXACT car for $480/month with tax, $0 out of pocket - sign and drive 

    What dealer? I showed this to my local dealer and they said they couldn't touch it. They said they could do $580/month. Could this deal be possible on a Prestige trim? The MF difference is only .1 percent.
  • maibad31maibad31 Member Posts: 48
    Hi - does Audi offer 4 year lease?
    2017 S3 48/7.5K for P+
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    maibad31 said:

    Hi - does Audi offer 4 year lease?
    2017 S3 48/7.5K for P+

    .00249 and 45%

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  • rohack83rohack83 Member Posts: 7
    Hi there!

    I was at Audi of Bellevue the other day, and they were quoting me some pretty insane MF and Residual.

    Would you happen to have the August numbers for the lease below?

    2017 Audi S3 Premium Plus with Tech and Black Optic Dynamic Package
    36 MO
    10,000 Miles

    MSRP is $52,230, with a 6% discount bringing our sales price to $48,096, is this a good price to target?
    (Zero dollars down except for drive off.)

    Your support is greatly appreciated!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    rohack83 said:

    Hi there!

    I was at Audi of Bellevue the other day, and they were quoting me some pretty insane MF and Residual.

    Would you happen to have the August numbers for the lease below?

    2017 Audi S3 Premium Plus with Tech and Black Optic Dynamic Package
    36 MO
    10,000 Miles

    MSRP is $52,230, with a 6% discount bringing our sales price to $48,096, is this a good price to target?
    (Zero dollars down except for drive off.)

    Your support is greatly appreciated!

    .00011 and 51%

    6% off sticker is a good deal, for Audi

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  • rohack83rohack83 Member Posts: 7
    Michaell said:

    rohack83 said:

    Hi there!

    I was at Audi of Bellevue the other day, and they were quoting me some pretty insane MF and Residual.

    Would you happen to have the August numbers for the lease below?

    2017 Audi S3 Premium Plus with Tech and Black Optic Dynamic Package
    36 MO
    10,000 Miles

    MSRP is $52,230, with a 6% discount bringing our sales price to $48,096, is this a good price to target?
    (Zero dollars down except for drive off.)

    Your support is greatly appreciated!

    .00011 and 51%

    6% off sticker is a good deal, for Audi
    Thank you very much for the support, Michael. You're a gentleman and a scholar!
  • phase_ejphase_ej Member Posts: 11
    I am getting the following deal on a 2017 audi s3. Is this good or am I missing something? I'm in Florida and I know the fees are high here but these seem like a lot. This is with 0 down except for fees and first month. Yo front is 2700. They have taken about 9K off sticker. Is audi still offering complimentary first month?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    phase_ej said:

    I am getting the following deal on a 2017 audi s3. Is this good or am I missing something? I'm in Florida and I know the fees are high here but these seem like a lot. This is with 0 down except for fees and first month. Yo front is 2700. They have taken about 9K off sticker. Is audi still offering complimentary first month?

    Thanks

    That pricing is incorrect:

    1. No mention of the acquisition fee
    2. FL taxes the monthly payment on a lease, not the entire selling price

    Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost.

    And, you might want to do some research on those registration costs - $798 seems like a lot.

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  • phase_ejphase_ej Member Posts: 11
    The acquisition fee is located on this page which was from their initial offer. The fees did seem a little high but apparently Florida has the highest documentation fee. They are also outlined here but with the previous numbers. So what should tax be in the case of my current offer?
  • phase_ejphase_ej Member Posts: 11
    Hi 

    So this is the updated deal with the fee breakdown. Does this look like an OK deal? Sounds like registration fee was a bit higher Initially. Also trying to find out adjusted cap cost. 

    Thank you very much
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    phase_ej said:

    Hi 


    So this is the updated deal with the fee breakdown. Does this look like an OK deal? Sounds like registration fee was a bit higher Initially. Also trying to find out adjusted cap cost. 

    Thank you very much
    Yes, get the adjusted cap cost, then we can run the numbers.

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  • phase_ejphase_ej Member Posts: 11
    Just a quick update, I have repeatedly reached out to the dealer for the adjusted cap cost and they are ignoring my request which leads me to believe they are being shady and adding on unknown fees. What I want to know is, is there a way we can figure out what the pricing should be?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    phase_ej said:

    Just a quick update, I have repeatedly reached out to the dealer for the adjusted cap cost and they are ignoring my request which leads me to believe they are being shady and adding on unknown fees. What I want to know is, is there a way we can figure out what the pricing should be?

    The dealer holds that information; their reluctance to share tells you everything you need to know.

    Find another dealer.

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  • phase_ejphase_ej Member Posts: 11
    Ok thank you for the help, I was leaning in that direction anyways.
  • mozzee_mozzee_ Member Posts: 27
    Received a quote for $680/month on a 2017 S3 Prestige. 54,800k down to 48k. Not sure what the MF was. Any ideas if this is good? 36 months/12k miles/ Registering in MD.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    mozzee_ said:

    Received a quote for $680/month on a 2017 S3 Prestige. 54,800k down to 48k. Not sure what the MF was. Any ideas if this is good? 36 months/12k miles/ Registering in MD.

    .00096 MF and 49% residual
    I get $659/mo, assuming all fees and taxes are paid upfront.
    You don't mention the amount due at signing.
    Tax is going to be $90/mo. in MD.

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  • jjeffrey03jjeffrey03 Member Posts: 18
    Just got this quote yesterday on a 2017 RS3 in North Carolina:

    MSRP $62,085
    Discount -$500
    Net Price $61,585
    Acq. Fee $895
    Doc/DMV $702
    Cap Cost $63,182

    MF: .00253
    Residual: .48

    36/10 lease came to $1237/mo with zero down (including $21/mo. in NC tax).

    Seems absurdly high, no? Looks like the RS3 is using the S3 residuals causing the payment to be way out of whack ($1200+ lease payment on a $62k car, no thanks :D ).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    Just got this quote yesterday on a 2017 RS3 in North Carolina:

    MSRP $62,085
    Discount -$500
    Net Price $61,585
    Acq. Fee $895
    Doc/DMV $702
    Cap Cost $63,182

    MF: .00253
    Residual: .48

    36/10 lease came to $1237/mo with zero down (including $21/mo. in NC tax).

    Seems absurdly high, no? Looks like the RS3 is using the S3 residuals causing the payment to be way out of whack ($1200+ lease payment on a $62k car, no thanks :D ).

    .00203 and 50% for 36/10

    MF is marked up (no surprise there), and a miniscule discount from sticker (also no surprise)

    With those prices, I get $1165/mo with tax with the marked up MF, and $1117/mo with the base MF.

    So, a bit higher than what you should pay, but I can't see paying $1100+ a month for a car no bigger than a Civic. Can't tell you if the numbers will get better once they've been out a while.

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  • jjeffrey03jjeffrey03 Member Posts: 18
    Michaell said:

    Just got this quote yesterday on a 2017 RS3 in North Carolina:

    MSRP $62,085
    Discount -$500
    Net Price $61,585
    Acq. Fee $895
    Doc/DMV $702
    Cap Cost $63,182

    MF: .00253
    Residual: .48

    36/10 lease came to $1237/mo with zero down (including $21/mo. in NC tax).

    Seems absurdly high, no? Looks like the RS3 is using the S3 residuals causing the payment to be way out of whack ($1200+ lease payment on a $62k car, no thanks :D ).

    .00203 and 50% for 36/10

    MF is marked up (no surprise there), and a miniscule discount from sticker (also no surprise)

    With those prices, I get $1165/mo with tax with the marked up MF, and $1117/mo with the base MF.

    So, a bit higher than what you should pay, but I can't see paying $1100+ a month for a car no bigger than a Civic. Can't tell you if the numbers will get better once they've been out a while.
    Thanks Michaell. Yea the MF markup is expected, especially on a first pass quote, but not sure where the dealer is getting the .48 residual from. Either way an $1100+ lease payment on this car is crazy, as you mentioned. A 60 mo. loan is roughly the same payment.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    Michaell said:

    Just got this quote yesterday on a 2017 RS3 in North Carolina:

    MSRP $62,085
    Discount -$500
    Net Price $61,585
    Acq. Fee $895
    Doc/DMV $702
    Cap Cost $63,182

    MF: .00253
    Residual: .48

    36/10 lease came to $1237/mo with zero down (including $21/mo. in NC tax).

    Seems absurdly high, no? Looks like the RS3 is using the S3 residuals causing the payment to be way out of whack ($1200+ lease payment on a $62k car, no thanks :D ).

    .00203 and 50% for 36/10

    MF is marked up (no surprise there), and a miniscule discount from sticker (also no surprise)

    With those prices, I get $1165/mo with tax with the marked up MF, and $1117/mo with the base MF.

    So, a bit higher than what you should pay, but I can't see paying $1100+ a month for a car no bigger than a Civic. Can't tell you if the numbers will get better once they've been out a while.
    Thanks Michaell. Yea the MF markup is expected, especially on a first pass quote, but not sure where the dealer is getting the .48 residual from. Either way an $1100+ lease payment on this car is crazy, as you mentioned. A 60 mo. loan is roughly the same payment.
    Might be better to buy it, then.

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  • schwartzkischwartzki Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2017
    Can I get Sept numbers + Incentives for a S3 Prem Plus 12 and 15k miles - 46804 whatever term is best.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161

    Can I get Sept numbers + Incentives for a S3 Prem Plus 12 and 15k miles - 46804 whatever term is best.

    Thanks!

    .00011 and 48% for 36/15; add 2% for 12K

    $1500 marketing allowance

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