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  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,422
    texases said:

    gsemike said:

    78 Nova

    https://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/d/1978-chevrolet-nova/6310391931.html

    Looks like it could be an OK entry level driver to get into cruise nights. All the wording is awkward, but what about the engine? It looks like a small block V8, but the listing is 248 ci? Were they making them that small? Was there anything smaller than a 305 in 78?

    Looks like they messed up the listing. According to wiki:
    "Any 1978 Chevrolet Nova could be ordered with a 250-cubic-inch six-cylinder engine, a 145-horsepower 305-cubic-inch V-8, or a 170-horsepower 350-cubic-inch V-8."

    It also says the 262 CID V8 was only available in '75.
    And the 250 would be a straight 6, right? Probably a 305. For 6 grand you could do worse. I think that the square headlights kill the look though. Takes away any hint of aggressiveness from the front end. I wonder if swapping in the older grill with round headlights would just be a matter of swapping the grill and headlight bezels
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    I had a '78 Nova back in the 80's and it had round headlights. The CL ad shows a vin number which dates the car to 1978 but maybe the front clip is not original or the pics are not actually the vehicle for sale.
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    Yeah, the square headlights were only available on the last year for the Nova, 1979. 
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133

    "It has Two (2) 2007 Subaru Tribeca EZ30 engines bolted together at the crank shaft. The front engine is set up at Top Dead Center on cylinder one and the rear engine is set on cylinder six. The next cylinder in the firing sequence. The front engine will talk to the Megasquirt MS3 Pro Evo computer and then the signals will be split to the injectors and coils.

    I have the computer but need guidance in doing the chassis and computer wiring. If you have the interest in this car, experience and time to couch me or even do the wiring, I would Greatly appreciate it."

    Whaaaaaaaaat???????

  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    edited October 2017
    I watched the videos and have the same question.

    edit to add: I tried to watch all of the last video published Oct 20, 2017 which began with, "...seven year update from the first video I did..." He then goes on about selling off assets and losing his home...moving into a storage building with his project car. Near the end he jokes about filling in the cockpit with potting soil. I would have laughed and finished watching the vid but it was really bothering me. Is this halloween monster for real?
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    texases said:

    "It has Two (2) 2007 Subaru Tribeca EZ30 engines bolted together at the crank shaft. The front engine is set up at Top Dead Center on cylinder one and the rear engine is set on cylinder six. The next cylinder in the firing sequence. The front engine will talk to the Megasquirt MS3 Pro Evo computer and then the signals will be split to the injectors and coils.

    I have the computer but need guidance in doing the chassis and computer wiring. If you have the interest in this car, experience and time to couch me or even do the wiring, I would Greatly appreciate it."

    Whaaaaaaaaat???????

    yeah, well, I dunno...the original 917/930 put out...wait for it....1100 HP. Think those two Subies are going to crank that out? Well, I'm waiting to be convinced.....
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    would have been a lot less effort and money to just boost the bejeesus out of one of the motors.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Some ideas are best talked to death over beers than actually attempted. I think this was one of them.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    "I have the computer but need guidance in doing the chassis and computer wiring."

    Kind of like saying "I have the scalpel but need help figuring out how to do the operation"...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nothing that ten years of hands-on experience wouldn't fix.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,792
    Happened to drive around the back of a dealership that sells Toyotas.
    Drove by a stack of new frames, assuming they are for Tacoma's?
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    Had the old car out today - hadn't been driven in 5 weeks. No surprise, it started on the first turn of the key. I was going to make a "cold start" video, but I remembered this about 5 seconds after I started the car. Oh well, maybe next time (as it is going to be idle again for at least 4 weeks). It ran and drove as nicely as usual.

    I got one random person asking about it, the guy said something like "I've been thinking about getting an old one, but not *that* old" - I thought that was amusing, as later models aren't exactly trouble free, just much easier to find. Looked decent in the slow to burn-off fog this afternoon:


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,566
    Still looks great, after all these years.

    Glad you're able to get out and exercise the old girl from time to time.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    Thanks. It's a good 10-footer, and has a lot of presence with the color. You'll never encounter your twin in traffic/

    We are now heading for the time of year that with vacations and weather, I'll need to jump on opportunities to get out for a drive (as the car doesn't come out in rain).
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    " The car doesn't come out in rain"

    Well, here in Seattle we have the rainy season and we have August!

    Actually, it's been pretty dry lately and so far, no frost.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,792
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    what, a little too pricey for you? Seems honest, other than probably padded the spend, or he got ripped off something fierce.

    but man, all that money, and still has a slant 6?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    edited October 2017
    I can usually get a dry Sunday at least once a month in winter, and summers here make up for it.

    Going to get colder in a few days.

    I'll take our weather vs what creates the Swiss cheese lower body on that Dart.


    Well, here in Seattle we have the rainy season and we have August!

    Actually, it's been pretty dry lately and so far, no frost.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,792
    @stickguy,
    Exactly. Spent all that money and it still has a slant 6?
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    Anytime someone advertises how much they've spent on a car I get skeptical and suspicious.

    MSRP is often not what someone pays for something new, so it is irrelevant when pricing something used.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    I actually like the Corvette. paint job though, not a good choice! Love the 57 panel van. And really like the Firedbird, but needs a 5 speed, and to be much, much cheaper.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,755
    edited November 2017
    Chevelle is kind of interesting to me. Some stuff seems crooked and could be a lipsticked pig, though.

    i also am intrigued by that panel van but a few pics snapped while on a trailer at a gas station is definitely concerning.

    Cressida would be a decent runabout but at about $1500 less.

    Automatic Z car? No thanks.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,345
    Even though it goes against all of what I normally like, that Chevelle intrigues me also, especially if it could be had for a few thou less.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,704
    qbrozen said:

    i also am intrigued by that panel van but a few pics snapped while on a trailer at a gas station is definitely concerning.

    Yes, agreed. I also hate the "clearcoated patina" look. I've seen some vehicles like that, such as old Porsches with history, but that's not the case here: It's a patchwork truck. It looks horrible like this. I don't recall the asking, but it didn't strike me as terribly unreasonable. Presentation is sketchy, though.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,755
    With the mismatched fender, no less. Yeah, I don't get it in this case, either.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    No 911 cabrios until MY 1983, so that's a chop job, proceed with caution.
  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,422
    qbrozen said:

    With the mismatched fender, no less. Yeah, I don't get it in this case, either.

    It's not my favorite look either, but I like that you can still see some of the old lettering for I guess Radio Service from it's past life. He's asking $8500 so it's not like he watched a lot of gas monkey and go carried away with himself.

    With the Chevelle, the hood fit is lousy and the seats aren't original. The side stripes are accurate and take away from the look, but big block Chevelles get a great deal of money around here.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    '69 Corona looks like it was abandoned for years. Price needs to be cut in half, at least.

    '90 ZX----oh, you want me to back it ...all.....the....way.....out of the garage to take photos? Oh, man, what a hassle!

    '78 Porsche SC Cab---probably a cut Targa. A VIN # would be interesting to see... If it's a chop the car is practically worthless----and he has the nerve to ask "real car top dollar". I hope he tells people. Damn fool could have gotten the same money restoring it as a coupe.

    '57 Chevy Panel --- "runs and drives" is not a ringing endorsement at $8500 bucks but price isn't too far off for a #4 truck. I'd say $6000 is all the money if it isn't rusty and goes down the road without a calamity.








  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    edited November 2017
    1974 Trans Am 455 SD in buccaneer red/red interior.
    If it checks out to be as represented then it's probably not going to go "much much" cheaper.
    -but I really like it too

    1973 Corvette L-82
    Despite the kustom paint job, it could be a likeable weekend hobby car for much cheaper than the T/A.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    Oh the SD might be priced right. Just not anywhere near my toy budget. Vette would be a better option.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    I suspect the Porsche was chopped 30-35 years ago when the 911 cabrio was a new thing, and was fashionable.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,345
    Seems mighty cheap unless it's a rust bucket/flood car.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    This 1982 Mercury Lynx is from Gahanna not Gananna and it should say "Mercury" instead of "Ford" on the tailgate. Tailgate? It's posted for sale on CL and up for laughs on roadkill.


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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,704
    edited November 2017
    Well, the Mickey Mouse theme is incredibly apt! :'(

    Even though they are hideous, I do like that it has '70s era Ford truck tail lights. Both my '69 Econoline and my '76 F250 have the exact same on them.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    I like it. Too bad it isn't a stick!

    Hey, about the best use for one of these that I can think of.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,704
    LOL

    I followed up last comment with reading the "Roadkill" article. Good stuff (sans some of their own typos).

    One caveat should you choose to put the pickup’s woodwork on display: you might want to drape a big Mercury banner over the tailgate.

    “Yeah, that’s ‘Ford’ written across the tailgate,” Curtis laughs. “I got in touch with the builder, and he told me that the original owner thought it was a Ford, not a Mercury, and insisted to the point where he gave in and painted what he was asked for.”

    Somewhere, a retired Mercury executive is silently weeping.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    the '67s don't bring anywhere near the money of the older Rivs, so yeah, if it's in "fair" shape only with some issues, that price is about market correct.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342

    the '67s don't bring anywhere near the money of the older Rivs, so yeah, if it's in "fair" shape only with some issues, that price is about market correct.
    I'm almost sure that repaint isn't a stock green for one thing. Not enough photos and not enough of a description. I'm wishing I had held on to one of my 65's!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,755

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    edited November 2017
    The 262C could be fun, so weird, and restoring one has to be difficult, has to be lots of unobtanium in one of those. Better to buy a nice survivor than repair a heap.

    I am leery of the 122 with constantly shrinking price and fresh looking paint.

    The S60 has new wiper blades, so the price might be OK.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    I love the S60R. Price might be high, but must be hard now to find ne that clean and unmolested, with low miles. And the did the expensive work on it at least. No I wouldn't pay that much. But I would like to have it.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,495
    The 122, if legit, is nice. But that ad gives a bad vibe. And some of the mods, like the seats, are terrible. But if that car is real, and solid underneath the paint, seems too cheap. I would be happy with that car, interior sorted and engine bay cleaned up, for a toy.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,345
    The interior of the 262 is hilarious. Volvo went all-out with the wrinkly-leather look on those door panels. Getting that driver's seat upholstery more presentable might be a bit of a challenge. But it has a car phone from about 1985!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    ab348 said:

    The interior of the 262 is hilarious. Volvo went all-out with the wrinkly-leather look on those door panels. Getting that driver's seat upholstery more presentable might be a bit of a challenge. But it has a car phone from about 1985!

    fintail said:

    The 262C could be fun, so weird, and restoring one has to be difficult, has to be lots of unobtanium in one of those. Better to buy a nice survivor than repair a heap.

    I am leery of the 122 with constantly shrinking price and fresh looking paint.

    The S60 has new wiper blades, so the price might be OK.

    The 262 is real turkey. Based on the 260 Sedan, it has the early, and much-dreaded PRV/V-6 engine. If you've ever worked on one, you won't do it a second time. If the 262C had been priced correctly (which it isn't), it would make for a nice small block V8 conversion.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,566

    ab348 said:

    The interior of the 262 is hilarious. Volvo went all-out with the wrinkly-leather look on those door panels. Getting that driver's seat upholstery more presentable might be a bit of a challenge. But it has a car phone from about 1985!

    fintail said:

    The 262C could be fun, so weird, and restoring one has to be difficult, has to be lots of unobtanium in one of those. Better to buy a nice survivor than repair a heap.

    I am leery of the 122 with constantly shrinking price and fresh looking paint.

    The S60 has new wiper blades, so the price might be OK.

    The 262 is real turkey. Based on the 260 Sedan, it has the early, and much-dreaded PRV/V-6 engine. If you've ever worked on one, you won't do it a second time. If the 262C had been priced correctly (which it isn't), it would make for a nice small block V8 conversion.

    ab348 said:

    The interior of the 262 is hilarious. Volvo went all-out with the wrinkly-leather look on those door panels. Getting that driver's seat upholstery more presentable might be a bit of a challenge. But it has a car phone from about 1985!

    fintail said:

    The 262C could be fun, so weird, and restoring one has to be difficult, has to be lots of unobtanium in one of those. Better to buy a nice survivor than repair a heap.

    I am leery of the 122 with constantly shrinking price and fresh looking paint.

    The S60 has new wiper blades, so the price might be OK.

    The 262 is real turkey. Based on the 260 Sedan, it has the early, and much-dreaded PRV/V-6 engine. If you've ever worked on one, you won't do it a second time. If the 262C had been priced correctly (which it isn't), it would make for a nice small block V8 conversion.
    Wasn't that PRV engine licensed to a certain stainless steel gull winged car?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Indeed it was. The later iterations were better (less worse). We also saw that engine in the stunning Eagle Premier as I recall.
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