I don't think so. Values seem to have actually dropped the past few years. Not sure why, but perhaps because it is a C4, and also because parts for the ZR-1 are extremely difficult to find.
I would say "buy it and drive it". Value Trend? Stagnant.
Good to know! Thanks. I was poking around for C5 Z06s when that one popped up and I thought maybe it would hold its value (or even increase) better than the z06. Guess not.
I don't think so. Values seem to have actually dropped the past few years. Not sure why, but perhaps because it is a C4, and also because parts for the ZR-1 are extremely difficult to find.
I would say "buy it and drive it". Value Trend? Stagnant.
Good to know! Thanks. I was poking around for C5 Z06s when that one popped up and I thought maybe it would hold its value (or even increase) better than the z06. Guess not.
Well it's really nice that it had an engine rebuild (that's $20,000 bucks) but I'm capped at $25K maximum, out the door. As for the car itself, with a dirty CARFAX and some parts of the car repainted, I'd say there's some risk in this purchase. Current bid is already retail. 997 is a better car than a 996 though, so that's something.
Didn't GM kind of bring back that red interior stuff for sporty cars? Although their brown and red mix isn't nearly as bold or bright in nature. For me, if I was going that way, the GM design would be more appealing. But I'm probably more conservative in design preferences.
Most of the interiors I see that claim to be colors other than black are still mostly black.
I long for the days of an interior with color, like this:
Previous gen M3 isn't very collectible either, if you mean the E90 series. Just a used car, or what I mean BEHAVES like a used car in terms of value---older it is, cheaper it is. Even the E36 and E46 values are kinda flat over many years. Only the E30 seems to be truly collectible at this point in time.
Shifty, I just meant the comparison of the highest spec from one generation vs the base from another.
BUT, to address both posts above, you could compare an E30 M3 vs a 135i. The latter absolutely whoops it in every measurable way, but the former is worth far far more.
In any case, if the market says nay to the ZR1, then so be it. I thought they were somewhat collectible. Maybe I'm thinking of another model. I'm not much of a vette person.
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You’re right about the E30 M3, they now have a cult following that drives up prices. Its successor was better, but hasn’t seen much love in the market.
I like the Silver Shadow, which happens to be missing what are likely the most valuable parts. "I don't think it would take much to get it running" - go for it
Rambler looks like the least risky thing. Supra is definitely a repaint, looks like someone dropped a bucket of paint on it.
I like the Silver Shadow, which happens to be missing what are likely the most valuable parts. "I don't think it would take much to get it running" - go for it
Rambler looks like the least risky thing. Supra is definitely a repaint, looks like someone dropped a bucket of paint on it.
Scary---used hub caps maybe $500--$800. Grill, for a nice one maybe $1,250. Trickiest part would be the brake system. It's not DIY and it's $$$$ pricey. I suppose you could part the car out instead of crippling yourself if things don't turn out.
Scary---used hub caps maybe $500--$800. Grill, for a nice one maybe $1,250. Trickiest part would be the brake system. It's not DIY and it's $$$$ pricey. I suppose you could part the car out instead of crippling yourself if things don't turn out.
I've seen more than one Shadow with a SBC conversion. I believe these have a TH400, so that part should be easy. Not sure what you'd do about the hydraulics though.
I assume that if you are doing the conversion, you need to go all the way and strip out the brakes and suspension and replace it with normal stuff. Not sure what else the hydraulics run though, so I assume you will have some fun retrofitting electric motors here and there!
Might be easier just to find a maintained Shadow with original internals.
Speaking of Dodge Shadow, many years ago, my brother had a Sundance Duster - can't recall when I last saw one of those. I forget exactly what happened to it, but the engine failed (V6).
My Dad had a first year Shadow ES Turbo Black/Grey. I really liked that car. Later on, my Aunt had one of the last years (94?) all loaded up with the V6 typical 90s hunter green over beige. I think you could have done worse at the time. I remember driving it, torquey little thing that would rip the front tires at will.
It would make an excellent flower bed or vegetable garden with the roof cut off. It would be high enough that the deer couldn't eat anything. The seats would be nice for the downstairs den, and you could remove all the wood and heat your home with it. The engine would make a perfect anchor for your '57 Swan and the tires would make nice swings for the kids. Perhaps the carpeting could be tailored into doggie jackets?
Might be easier just to find a maintained Shadow with original internals.
Speaking of Dodge Shadow, many years ago, my brother had a Sundance Duster - can't recall when I last saw one of those. I forget exactly what happened to it, but the engine failed (V6).
Back in 1990 I test drove a new Sundance 2-door when I was car shopping. I remember I didn't like it much. The interior design and materials were fine and typical of what Chrysler was using in all their K-car variants back then (corduroy velour upholstery!), which was fine with me, and it had decent room inside, but it drove kind of clunky even when new. I remember the multi-function stalk was quite lose and wobbly too. I don't remember if it had a turbo or not but I suspect so.
I think my brother's car had similar upholstery, it was maybe a 92 or 93 model. He had it after a Neon, going backwards made for a more interesting car I guess. It was cheap and rare, made him happy. I seem to recall it was a blue-green with gold trim and a tannish interior, very 90s.
Back in 1990 I test drove a new Sundance 2-door when I was car shopping. I remember I didn't like it much. The interior design and materials were fine and typical of what Chrysler was using in all their K-car variants back then (corduroy velour upholstery!), which was fine with me, and it had decent room inside, but it drove kind of clunky even when new. I remember the multi-function stalk was quite lose and wobbly too. I don't remember if it had a turbo or not but I suspect so.
My brother wanted to turn his into an autocross car or similar, but it never happened. I think it had a sunroof, too. This was in the early 00s, and even then, I think he only paid a couple grand for it.
My Dad had a first year Shadow ES Turbo Black/Grey. I really liked that car. Later on, my Aunt had one of the last years (94?) all loaded up with the V6 typical 90s hunter green over beige. I think you could have done worse at the time. I remember driving it, torquey little thing that would rip the front tires at will.
My brother wanted to turn his into an autocross car or similar, but it never happened. I think it had a sunroof, too. This was in the early 00s, and even then, I think he only paid a couple grand for it.
My Dad had a first year Shadow ES Turbo Black/Grey. I really liked that car. Later on, my Aunt had one of the last years (94?) all loaded up with the V6 typical 90s hunter green over beige. I think you could have done worse at the time. I remember driving it, torquey little thing that would rip the front tires at will.
I remember having one for a rental car back then. Even with maybe 10k miles, it was aging quickly. I had the car for maybe a week and when I brought it back, the rental agency tried to ding me but interior damage, because the interior was falling apart. I told them I don't smoke and didn't put a hundred miles on the car. It's Chrysler's fault, not mine.
Yeah, that definitely not Mopar's best era, although they maybe weren't worse than other domestics at the time, not like early 90s Fords and GMs are meticulous jewels
So Brembo appears to have an answer to my braking issues, a new big brake kit for the front, comes complete with it's own selection of commonly sized pads.
Downside, about $4K.
Upside, more durable pad options.
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Funny thing.... Over the holiday weekend, I drove a 2007 Chevy 1500 that belongs to my mother. It has about 176,000 miles. First time I pressed the brakes, and the thing started shaking and stuttering, I was shocked! I have never experienced a vehicle with such horribly warped rotors on it!
I politely asked her where a local NAPA was, and she pointed me the right direction. $155 and about two hours later, and I had new rotors and pads installed on it. Smooth as butter, and cheaper than the Forester (despite rotors being about 3x the size). She was pissed that I pulled one over on her (she hates it when I spend money on her behalf), but her husband was thrilled to have the smooth brakes.
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So I decided to give myself an early big Xmas gift with the Big Brake Kit from Brembo (BBK for short).
They do fit in the OZ Racing wheels (they better as they are 19x9's!).
However, apparently Brembo doesn't know the unique ways of the TTS rarity, and the spindle doesn't line up with bolts and mounting hardware.
My guy had 2 ideas, one, they massage the parts to fit (metal work?).
Two, take my car up to Brembo in Irvine, CA, and have them keep it a couple days to do the R&D and give me a free BBK in return. I tell you, I'm starting to get tired and frustrated at the aftermarket on cars.
I'm on standby, day 2.
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Two, take my car up to Brembo in Irvine, CA, and have them keep it a couple days to do the R&D and give me a free BBK in return. I tell you, I'm starting to get tired and frustrated at the aftermarket on cars.
I'm on standby, day 2.
Be the guinea pig! Your car could be famous....
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They could take an existing one that is close and modify it, then use that to create a new model. I mean, there are only so many different ways to mount brake calipers.
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Found your 911, though, Shifty.
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I long for the days of an interior with color, like this:
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BUT, to address both posts above, you could compare an E30 M3 vs a 135i. The latter absolutely whoops it in every measurable way, but the former is worth far far more.
In any case, if the market says nay to the ZR1, then so be it. I thought they were somewhat collectible. Maybe I'm thinking of another model. I'm not much of a vette person.
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Any buying opportunities?
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1988-chevrolet-monte-carlo-ss/6404241700.html Time capsule Monte SS. Most of these are modded and rats now. Can the best preserved examples become collectible?
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/zx-datsun-nissan/6376054571.html Low mileage 300 ZX with a stick
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1975-rolls-royce-silver/6390812708.html Behold the $4500 rolls royce
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1980-camaro/6392931289.html Could be a decent start for a hot rod build
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1990-chevy-ss454-pickup-truck/6403960738.html SS454 pick up
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/jeep-willy-1966/6372957109.html 66 Willy. This was made by Mitsubishi?
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/toyota-supra/6401180272.html Manual Supra. Not a turbo, but not a lot of money
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-car/6369733622.html AMC Eagle, the original crossover
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1963-rambler-american-220/6402724007.html Rambler American
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Wanted to like that SS454 but don't.
I never heard of a Mitsu Jeep but it seems to be one.
That Supra is lacking any description. I suspect rot.
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Rambler looks like the least risky thing. Supra is definitely a repaint, looks like someone dropped a bucket of paint on it.
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Speaking of Dodge Shadow, many years ago, my brother had a Sundance Duster - can't recall when I last saw one of those. I forget exactly what happened to it, but the engine failed (V6).
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Here's a project,this seems to have held together well, all things considered
Porsche project car for sale located in the Umpqua National Forest. Ran when Park-ed.
Downside, about $4K.
Upside, more durable pad options.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Funny thing.... Over the holiday weekend, I drove a 2007 Chevy 1500 that belongs to my mother. It has about 176,000 miles. First time I pressed the brakes, and the thing started shaking and stuttering, I was shocked! I have never experienced a vehicle with such horribly warped rotors on it!
I politely asked her where a local NAPA was, and she pointed me the right direction. $155 and about two hours later, and I had new rotors and pads installed on it. Smooth as butter, and cheaper than the Forester (despite rotors being about 3x the size). She was pissed that I pulled one over on her (she hates it when I spend money on her behalf), but her husband was thrilled to have the smooth brakes.
4K for upgraded brakes? I haven't spent half that on brakes in my life, which includes the fintail which has had brake quirks.
They do fit in the OZ Racing wheels (they better as they are 19x9's!).
However, apparently Brembo doesn't know the unique ways of the TTS rarity, and the spindle doesn't line up with bolts and mounting hardware.
My guy had 2 ideas, one, they massage the parts to fit (metal work?).
Two, take my car up to Brembo in Irvine, CA, and have them keep it a couple days to do the R&D and give me a free BBK in return. I tell you, I'm starting to get tired and frustrated at the aftermarket on cars.
I'm on standby, day 2.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6