2018 Wrangler Rubicon JL - Money Factor and Residual Value

kyfdx · June 2018

kayluna said:
Hi all, what is the Residual and MF for July for:

2018 Rubicon JL 4 Door - 36 months / 10k miles

Standard MF and 69% residual

kimapitk · June 2018

Hey all, hope all the Dads out there had a great Father's Day.

Wanted to know if I can lease a Wrangler JK and if so whats the MF & RV for a 4 door Sports S zip code 11003 for 15k and 12K 36 mos. and also are there any incentives

Michaell · June 2018

kimapitk said:
Hey all, hope all the Dads out there had a great Father's Day.

Wanted to know if I can lease a Wrangler JK and if so whats the MF & RV for a 4 door Sports S zip code 11003 for 15k and 12K 36 mos. and also are there any incentives

Standard MF and 69% / 71%
No incentives

trickracen · June 2018

MF/R for Wrangler Rubion JL 4dr and Sahara, 36/12k 91311 So. Cal, and any incentives/conquest

kyfdx · June 2018

trickracen said:
MF/R for Wrangler Rubion JL 4dr and Sahara, 36/12k 91311 So. Cal, and any incentives/conquest

Standard MF and 68%/66% residual for Rubicon/Sahara

Don't see any incentives

cosmins · July 2018

This website is very helpful and thank you ahead of time. I am looking at leasing a 2018 wrangler JL Sport S MSRP of roughly $39,000. zip code is 92886. Wondering what I might be able to bring the MSRP down to. Also considering the 48 month lease at 12k miles for lowest payment. Does the longer lease term help out enough to offset lower RV? What would be the best term for best payment and what should RV and MF be on the 48 month 12k miles? Thanks again.

Michaell · July 2018

cosmins said:
This website is very helpful and thank you ahead of time. I am looking at leasing a 2018 wrangler JL Sport S MSRP of roughly $39,000. zip code is 92886. Wondering what I might be able to bring the MSRP down to. Also considering the 48 month lease at 12k miles for lowest payment. Does the longer lease term help out enough to offset lower RV? What would be the best term for best payment and what should RV and MF be on the 48 month 12k miles? Thanks again.

We don't have any Wrangler lease info yet for July; hopefully tomorrow.

And, we don't track pricing.

tenneone · July 2018

I could also use some help with July numbers (MF/R) if available? Interested in 2018 Wrangler Unlimited
Sport S JL and Rubicon JL numbers. 24/10 and 36/10. Zip 37064. Thank you

Michaell · July 2018

tenneone said:
I could also use some help with July numbers (MF/R) if available? Interested in 2018 Wrangler Unlimited
Sport S JL and Rubicon JL numbers. 24/10 and 36/10. Zip 37064. Thank you

We don't have any Wrangler lease info yet for July; hopefully tomorrow.

cosmins · July 2018

Michaell said:

cosmins said:
This website is very helpful and thank you ahead of time. I am looking at leasing a 2018 wrangler JL Sport S MSRP of roughly $39,000. zip code is 92886. Wondering what I might be able to bring the MSRP down to. Also considering the 48 month lease at 12k miles for lowest payment. Does the longer lease term help out enough to offset lower RV? What would be the best term for best payment and what should RV and MF be on the 48 month 12k miles? Thanks again.
We don't have any Wrangler lease info yet for July; hopefully tomorrow.

And, we don't track pricing.

Thank you for the response, I will check back over the next 2 days. I look to pick one up by Wednesday.

kyfdx · July 2018

cosmins said:

Michaell said:

cosmins said:
This website is very helpful and thank you ahead of time. I am looking at leasing a 2018 wrangler JL Sport S MSRP of roughly $39,000. zip code is 92886. Wondering what I might be able to bring the MSRP down to. Also considering the 48 month lease at 12k miles for lowest payment. Does the longer lease term help out enough to offset lower RV? What would be the best term for best payment and what should RV and MF be on the 48 month 12k miles? Thanks again.
We don't have any Wrangler lease info yet for July; hopefully tomorrow.

And, we don't track pricing.
Thank you for the response, I will check back over the next 2 days. I look to pick one up by Wednesday.

2-Door or Unlimited?

kyfdx · July 2018

tenneone said:
I could also use some help with July numbers (MF/R) if available? Interested in 2018 Wrangler Unlimited
Sport S JL and Rubicon JL numbers. 24/10 and 36/10. Zip 37064. Thank you

Standard MF
Sport S: 75%/73% residual for 24/36 months
Rubicon: 71%/68% residual

khcar2001 · July 2018

Hi. Do you have July MF & Residuals for Tier 2 credit on 2018 JL Rubicon Unlimited? Looking at 15k 36/39/48 month lease. Thanks!

kyfdx · July 2018

khcar2001 said:
Hi. Do you have July MF & Residuals for Tier 2 credit on 2018 JL Rubicon Unlimited? Looking at 15k 36/39/48 month lease. Thanks!

We don't have the standard MF number, but whatever it is, Tier 2 will add .00021 to it.

65%/64%/63%/62% residual for 36/39/42/48 months

tenneone · July 2018

Residuals for JL Sport S Unlimited Please zip 37064
36/12k

kyfdx · July 2018

tenneone said:
Residuals for JL Sport S Unlimited Please zip 37064
36/12k

Standard MF and 72% residual

momo9394 · July 2018

Hi there. Could I please get the residual and money factor for tier 1 credit on a Sahara 2018 4 cylinder turbo, 10k per year over both 24 and 36 months? Zip code is 98039.

Also, are there any current incentives I should be aware of for this build? Price I am being quoted is $1k off FWP.

Thanks!

Michaell · July 2018

momo9394 said:
Hi there. Could I please get the residual and money factor for tier 1 credit on a Sahara 2018 4 cylinder turbo, 10k per year over both 24 and 36 months? Zip code is 98039.

Also, are there any current incentives I should be aware of for this build? Price I am being quoted is $1k off FWP.

Thanks!

2-door or 4-door?

momo9394 · July 2018

4 door

Michaell · July 2018

momo9394 said:
Hi there. Could I please get the residual and money factor for tier 1 credit on a Sahara 2018 4 cylinder turbo, 10k per year over both 24 and 36 months? Zip code is 98039.

Also, are there any current incentives I should be aware of for this build? Price I am being quoted is $1k off FWP.

Thanks!

momo9394 said:
4 door

Standard MF and 68% / 66%

bpjeepguy · July 2018

Good afternoon... I could use some advice as well... I ordered a 2018 Rubicon JL (4 door) with most of the add on's. MSRP is $57,065, purchase price is $50,811... I live in New York and the dealer gave me the following quote...
3yrs x12k miles with $1,750 down = 729.02 - Chrysler Cap and Ally
Net Cap - 55,285.22
Money Factor - .00282
67% residual
Buy Out = 38,568.55

My credit is score is 775... so I was surprised by the money factor... can you confirm the residual and money factor please..

**any advice from others is welcome.. Can I use a leasing company other than what the dealer is using?

kyfdx · July 2018

bpjeepguy said:
Good afternoon... I could use some advice as well... I ordered a 2018 Rubicon JL (4 door) with most of the add on's. MSRP is $57,065, purchase price is $50,811... I live in New York and the dealer gave me the following quote...
3yrs x12k miles with $1,750 down = 729.02 - Chrysler Cap and Ally
Net Cap - 55,285.22
Money Factor - .00282
67% residual
Buy Out = 38,568.55

My credit is score is 775... so I was surprised by the money factor... can you confirm the residual and money factor please..

**any advice from others is welcome.. Can I use a leasing company other than what the dealer is using?

The figures given have to be either Chrysler Capital or Ally, not both (other than the payment)
That is the Chrysler Capital residual, so we'll assume that's the rest of it, as well.

We don't know the money factor, this month. It's the "Standard" money factor. Lately, it's been between .00193 and .00220. I'll guess they've marked up your money factor (possibly by a lot).

Do you have an accounting of your NET CAP? It's $4470 over your sale price. That seems like a lot, especially since you are paying another $1750 at signing?

The problem isn't with the leasing bank... it's with your dealer, I think.

bpjeepguy · July 2018

THANK YOU for your response! (Much appreciated)
I agree...The two things that jumped out was the MF and then that 1750 down which appears to be a money grab. I whipped up a calculator using excel and came up with a $727 payment based on the variables...and I couldn't figure out the $1750... That coupled with the obviously highy MF irked me but I wanted to get additional opinions...

I was expecting a monthly payment between $650-675 and it appears they are building in $3500 in profit to see if they can get away with it.

I really thought the residuals for Rubicons were higher..

Can I use any leasing company and if so, who do you recommend?
Can I also bother you for residuals for 39, 42 & 48?

Here is the breakdown on the Cap Cost... The processing piece I committed to in order to place a factory order at 10% below invoice... It appears they are looking to recoup that with a predatory financing department.

Cap Cost $55,813
Sell Price $50,811
Registration $470
Processing $699
Taxes $3,833

kyfdx · July 2018

bpjeepguy said:
THANK YOU for your response! (Much appreciated)
I agree...The two things that jumped out was the MF and then that 1750 down which appears to be a money grab. I whipped up a calculator using excel and came up with a $727 payment based on the variables...and I couldn't figure out the $1750... That coupled with the obviously highy MF irked me but I wanted to get additional opinions...

I was expecting a monthly payment between $650-675 and it appears they are building in $3500 in profit to see if they can get away with it.

I really thought the residuals for Rubicons were higher..

Can I use any leasing company and if so, who do you recommend?
Can I also bother you for residuals for 39, 42 & 48?

Here is the breakdown on the Cap Cost... The processing piece I committed to in order to place a factory order at 10% below invoice... It appears they are looking to recoup that with a predatory financing department.

Cap Cost $55,813
Sell Price $50,811
Registration $470
Processing $699
Taxes $3,833

The tax number cannot be correct. NY taxes the sum of the payments. $699 processing? That's a garbage fee. A way for a NY dealer to get around the $75 cap on doc fees. (unless you are shopping out of state?)

You can't go get your own lease through another bank. Technically, you could, but that won't save you any money. You just need a dealer that will use the base program, and not try to screw you.

66%/65%/64% residual for 39/42/48 months.
I generally recommend against longer term leases, but in this case, they are hard to pass up, given the residuals.

But, your problem isn't the bank or the lease program. It's the dealer. Find another one.

bpjeepguy · July 2018

I am purchasing using an out of state dealer because I was able to negotiate the lowest price under invoice for a Jeep that my local dealers are reluctant to move off MSRP. I am locked in to this dealer and that is probably why they are trying to screw me...
Recap:
$1750 is crap
$699 is a processing fee that I agreed to pay because I was getting 10% off Invoice and ordering from the factory
I am ordering out of state

Question:
Taxes: The tax rate is 7.375% and it is owed upfront in NY. Are you saying that they are wrong because they are actually adding sales tax of the cars entire value versus the difference in the residual and the negotiated price?

(50,811 less $38,570 = $12,240 * 7.375% = $902 in taxes versus the $3,833) That coupled with the Money factor and the bogus $1750 is why you are sounding the alarm...? Did I miss anything?

I didn't pick up on the tax thing so thank you! I am not committed to leasing.. I will obviously finance using my own credit union versus this... I just can't stand the audacity of some of these people to screw the hardworking people that don't analyze the numbers. This is similar to sub prime mortgage financing that finally got regulated. It appears auto leasing is still the wild wild west.

kyfdx · July 2018

bpjeepguy said:
I am purchasing using an out of state dealer because I was able to negotiate the lowest price under invoice for a Jeep that my local dealers are reluctant to move off MSRP. I am locked in to this dealer and that is probably why they are trying to screw me...
Recap:
$1750 is crap
$699 is a processing fee that I agreed to pay because I was getting 10% off Invoice and ordering from the factory
I am ordering out of state

Question:
Taxes: The tax rate is 7.375% and it is owed upfront in NY. Are you saying that they are wrong because they are actually adding sales tax of the cars entire value versus the difference in the residual and the negotiated price?

(50,811 less $38,570 = $12,240 * 7.375% = $902 in taxes versus the $3,833) That coupled with the Money factor and the bogus $1750 is why you are sounding the alarm...? Did I miss anything?

I didn't pick up on the tax thing so thank you! I am not committed to leasing.. I will obviously finance using my own credit union versus this... I just can't stand the audacity of some of these people to screw the hardworking people that don't analyze the numbers. This is similar to sub prime mortgage financing that finally got regulated. It appears auto leasing is still the wild wild west.

Answer: Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Taxes: Not just depreciation... the whole payment.. So, closer to $727 X 36 = $26,172 X .07375 = $1930.

If you were planning on leasing from the beginning, then picking a dealer solely on discount from MSRP was a mistake. I would walk away, before I would take this deal.

bpjeepguy · July 2018

Very helpful - Thank you again

kayluna · July 2018

Hi all, can I get the money factor and Residual for July - Rubicon JL 4 Door ... 36 months 10k Miles.

Michaell · July 2018

kayluna said:
Hi all, can I get the money factor and Residual for July - Rubicon JL 4 Door ... 36 months 10k Miles.

standard MF and 68%

gocaps18 · August 2018

Hello, Can I get a money Factor and Residual for August - JL 4 door sport S unlimited. 36 moth/10k miles (zip 21701)

Also, i see replies of Standard Money Factor. What is that? .002?

badger98 · August 2018

Could I get the residuals for a 2018 JL Rubicon Unlimited for August (24,36 and 39 month if possible)? Thanks

kyfdx · August 2018

Sorry, but we don't yet have Wrangler info for August.

Hopefully, soon.

kyfdx · August 2018

gocaps18 said:
Hello, Can I get a money Factor and Residual for August - JL 4 door sport S unlimited. 36 moth/10k miles (zip 21701)

Also, i see replies of Standard Money Factor. What is that? .002?

Standard MF and 73% residual

We don't know the standard MF for this month, but it's generally right around .00200

kyfdx · August 2018

badger98 said:
Could I get the residuals for a 2018 JL Rubicon Unlimited for August (24,36 and 39 month if possible)? Thanks

15K/yr
69%/65%/64% residual

jeffc92 · August 2018

Hello,

Could I get the MF and Residual for a 2 Door Wrangler JL Sport S?
1. 24 Months, 12k Miles per year, Zipcode: 84102.
2. 24 Months, 10k Miles per year, Zipcode: 84102.
3. 36 Months, 12k Miles per year, Zipcode: 84102.

Michaell · August 2018

jeffc92 said:
Hello,

Could I get the MF and Residual for a 2 Door Wrangler JL Sport S?
1. 24 Months, 12k Miles per year, Zipcode: 84102.
2. 24 Months, 10k Miles per year, Zipcode: 84102.
3. 36 Months, 12k Miles per year, Zipcode: 84102.

Standard MF and 68% / 69% / 65%

18JLURubi · August 2018

Hi.

Can I get the MF and residual for a JLU Rubicon?
12k/36/39/48

Thanks!

kyfdx · August 2018

18JLURubi said:
Hi.

Can I get the MF and residual for a JLU Rubicon?
12k/36/39/48

Thanks!

Standard MF
67%/66%/64% residual

18JLURubi · August 2018

kyfdx said:

Hi.

Can I get the MF and residual for a JLU Rubicon?
12k/36/39/48

Thanks!
Standard MF 67%/66%/64% residual

Thanks!! Standard is still around .00200?

kyfdx · August 2018

18JLURubi said:

kyfdx said:

18JLURubi said:
Hi.

Can I get the MF and residual for a JLU Rubicon?
12k/36/39/48

Thanks!
Standard MF
67%/66%/64% residual

Thanks!! Standard is still around .00200?

As far as we know..

I think it was .00209, last month

Rick Swartwood · August 2018

Do you happen to have the MF and RV for the '18 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited 36/12k and 36/10k for a One Pay Lease for August? Thanx in advance.

kyfdx · August 2018

Rick Swartwood said:
Do you happen to have the MF and RV for the '18 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited 36/12k and 36/10k for a One Pay Lease for August? Thanx in advance.

67%/68% residual

Sorry, but I don't have the money factor reduction for single-pay

18JLURubi · August 2018

kyfdx said:

Hi.

Can I get the MF and residual for a JLU Rubicon?
12k/36/39/48

Thanks!
Standard MF 67%/66%/64% residual

Sorry. One more residual. 42 months.

Michaell · August 2018

18JLURubi said:

kyfdx said:

18JLURubi said:
Hi.

Can I get the MF and residual for a JLU Rubicon?
12k/36/39/48

Thanks!
Standard MF
67%/66%/64% residual

Sorry. One more residual. 42 months.

Split the difference between 39 and 48 months - 65%

Javi1392 · August 2018

Hello,

Looking for the MF and residual for a JLU Sport S 12k/48
zip 33055

Thanks,

kyfdx · August 2018

Javi1392 said:
Hello,

Looking for the MF and residual for a JLU Sport S 12k/48
zip 33055

Thanks,

Standard MF and 68% residual

priyam1309 · September 2018

Hello,
First of all thank you for helping all of us out here..
Looking for MF and Residual and tax on 2018 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON 4X4 4 Door Manual Trans. Zip code 77002. 24months 10K.

kyfdx · September 2018

priyam1309 said:
Hello,
First of all thank you for helping all of us out here..
Looking for MF and Residual and tax on 2018 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON 4X4 4 Door Manual Trans. Zip code 77002. 24months 10K.

Standard MF and 71% residual.

Longer terms are much better

hockeydan18 · September 2018

Looking for residuals on JLU Sport S, 48/12000 and 36/12000. Zip 16063. Also, any idea on why my dealer would tell me Rubicon's do not lease well? The dealership uses Ally for financing if that matters?? Thank you!!

Michaell · September 2018

hockeydan18 said:
Looking for residuals on JLU Sport S, 48/12000 and 36/12000. Zip 16063. Also, any idea on why my dealer would tell me Rubicon's do not lease well? The dealership uses Ally for financing if that matters?? Thank you!!

We do not have the Ally numbers.

The Rubicon trim has the lowest residual values, and the highest MSRP, of any JLU trim. Hence, highest monthly payments.

2018 Wrangler Rubicon JL - Money Factor and Residual Value

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