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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,800
    Perfect sedan? Better be RWD.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,728
    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.

    Right to the core! LOL

    I always wonder with Hyundai Sonata, Hyundai Azera, Hyundai Genesis, who is the market for the Azera. I can stereotype who I see in this area driving the Azera, and I can hypothesize that they went in to the local store to buy a Sonata and got upscaled to an Azera while in the showroom and without any prior research. Sort of a spot sale.



    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,592
    I like that Azera alot. It probably will not be available in N. America. If so, sorry @jmonroe, would be a perfect replacement for the Genesis. Of course, the windows aren’t wide enough and vertical for @driver100, LOL.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,728

    OK....clearly I’m doing something wrong, then!

    Thx!

    I notice that the header on this forum changed and now suggests turning off ad blockers.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,469
    The new Azera looks like they grafted a Genesis front end and a Charger rear end onto a Buick Lacrosse bodyshell.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,728
    Can't turn out too bad if they started with a LaCrosse!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    If this new Azera handles and drives as well as it looks then in my eyes it looks like a winner. The headlamp/LED design is divine and the rear end is quintessential Azera.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,637
    I just checked my tablet to see if I automatically signed up for Insider on there when I did my desktop. I wasn't....so I googled sign up for Edmunds Insider. Found a link, went to "sign in" if a member, used email and same password, and I was on. Now hopefully my Florida P.C. will be as easy and you won't miss me for 5 months from Nov to April.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,637
    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,637
    carnaught said:

    I like that Azera alot. It probably will not be available in N. America. If so, sorry @jmonroe, would be a perfect replacement for the Genesis. Of course, the windows aren’t wide enough and vertical for @driver100, LOL.

    Narrow windows turn me off and that hatch back kind of look don't do it for me. It would be a good car for jmonroe to move up to....if we ever hear from him again.

    I am with ab....the rear looks like a Charger. Front looks like a Fusion or Audi. Body looks like a Buick....would be perfect as a 2019 Buick. What is with the twin island wavy hood or whatever they call it? I think North America can get by without this model.

    I always think of my friend buying a 2013 Genesis....he was so happy he got a car with everything on it for under $35k. He got tired of it after about 3 months.......it was just a well optioned regular car....not special, not fun to drive.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    driver100 said:
    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.
    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.
    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.
    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    driver100 said:
    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.
    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.
    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.
    Most people either cannot afford to buy the “real” thing or they don’t want to spend large sums of money just to have the “real” thing - whatever that is.  It’s a choice, not a need.

    The Azera IS the real thing to buyers who want a luxury car - so is a Cadillac or a Lexus or a Buick.  

    Maybe be some buyers just don’t like the snob appeal of a Mercedes or a BMW or a Porsche or a Rolls.  Ya never know unless you ask!  B)

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477
    qbrozen said:

    Perfect sedan? Better be RWD.

    No doubt about it.

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    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477


    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.

    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    Perfect sedan? Better be RWD.
    No doubt about it.
    It doesn't matter as it will never be Stateside.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    driver100 said:
    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.
    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.
    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.
    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.
    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me. 

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477




    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me. 

    That's encouraging to hear; decreased demand= even lower prices! B)

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    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,637
    edited August 2018
    abacomike said:


    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Most people either cannot afford to buy the “real” thing or they don’t want to spend large sums of money just to have the “real” thing - whatever that is.  It’s a choice, not a need.

    The Azera IS the real thing to buyers who want a luxury car - so is a Cadillac or a Lexus or a Buick.  

    Maybe be some buyers just don’t like the snob appeal of a Mercedes or a BMW or a Porsche or a Rolls.  Ya never know unless you ask
    B)

    I respectfully disagree - to some degree. Most auto journalists will say the benchmark in the luxury class is an Audi, BMW or MB. The others have those cars in their sites....I can't think of a G3 brand that has tried to copy from Buick, Cadillac or Lexus. Who kept RWD, who kept firmer ride, who made cars that have better handling - and who is trying to do the same?

    Not saying there is anything wrong with those brands, just that if you are trying to figure out what the winning formula is, you have to have the G3 in your sights.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,637
    edited August 2018




    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me


    Risk vs. Reward!
    You can play it safe, get a Toyota, it has tried and true old style mechanics. Nothing fancy, nothing edgy, nothing cutting edge, just old safe technology. If playing it safe, maximizing your car as an investment is your goal....then go with it. If you want performance, superior handling, latest technology....there is a price to be paid, the believers will pay the price for the privilege.

    The way I see it....I got one life to live and I want to live it to the max (on my scale). At the end I want to say I got a truly satisfying car that was better than I ever expected to own - what a blast, NOT, I am sure glad I got that boring but very reliable Toyota that got 38 miles to the gallon.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    People who bought Buicks 25 years ago? B) I am sure it is a nice smooth comfortable car if one likes that above all else, it will probably be reliable, and as Toyota has taught us, looks don't matter.

    I suspect there will be sweetheart leases and maybe fleet sales - prior Azera (and Genesis) were once quite common in fleets, and while Genesis seems to have moved out of that realm, the mainstream models are still heavily entrenched.


    Right to the core! LOL

    I always wonder with Hyundai Sonata, Hyundai Azera, Hyundai Genesis, who is the market for the Azera. I can stereotype who I see in this area driving the Azera, and I can hypothesize that they went in to the local store to buy a Sonata and got upscaled to an Azera while in the showroom and without any prior research. Sort of a spot sale.



  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    The styling is just so derivative. Regarding the real thing, a heavily warrantied CPO/lease return is often indistinguishable from a new one to non-enthusiasts, and can be had for the price of a mainstream or non-prestige model.

    For many models, the talk of out of warranty issues is exaggerated.
    driver100 said:



    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481




    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me. 

    That's encouraging to hear; decreased demand= even lower prices! B)

    I love buying what other people are afraid of.....presuming that I'M not too afraid of it myself. I'd certainly risk a BMW or Benz (well MOST of them anyway) because I know how to deal with them (connections, I mean, to shops and parts)--even a Saab or Alfa---but there are a few cars I'm still quite shy of...OR...have already had my fill of personally, or have witnessed the bloodshed first hand.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    driver100 said:
    driver100 said:
    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.
    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.
    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.
    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.
    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me
    Risk vs. Reward! You can play it safe, get a Toyota, it has tried and true old style mechanics. Nothing fancy, nothing edgy, nothing cutting edge, just old safe technology. If playing it safe, maximizing your car as an investment is your goal....then go with it. If you want performance, superior handling, latest technology....there is a price to be paid, the believers will pay the price for the privilege. The way I see it....I got one life to live and I want to live it to the max (on my scale). At the end I want to say I got a truly satisfying car that was better than I ever expected to own - what a blast, NOT, I am sure glad I got that boring but very reliable Toyota that got 38 miles to the gallon.
    But I can get a car that gives that BMW or MB a run for its money, spend less and not have to worry about it once the warranty expires. 

    Not to mention that 80% or more of the time that I have 4 wheels under me it's not fun driving regardless of what car it is and over 80% of the time I can really get going on the road I have two wheels under me. So give me that boring Toyota for when I am stuck in traffic and I'll spend the savings on something fun with two wheels when the road is open. 

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's why every man needs a minimum of 6 fuel burning devices. :p
  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,182
    ab348 said:

    Speaking of water, my Moen kitchen faucet developed an annoying drip a few weeks ago. I remembered that Moen touts a lifetime warranty so I dug out some old paperwork and amazingly found the documents that came with it along with the sales slip from 2002. I called Moen, they were very helpful, and sent out a repair kit for it. I decided to try to install it today.

    Taking it apart was easy enough. That was about all the instructions that came with the parts were good for. The lady I spoke to at Moen when getting the parts sent said that she would email me a better set of instructions, which she did, and they were much better but still not 100% clear on a few points. Thankfully there are many YouTube videos on the topic and a couple of them were the most useful. Eventually after a couple of puzzlers I got it all back together and was happy that it seemed to work well with no leaks.

    About an hour or so later I went to use the faucet and discovered that the cold side was now hot and vice versa. Nowhere in any of the things I read or watched did this get mentioned and there was nothing marked on the new cartridge to indicate what was what. Another web search revealed it is a common issue and thankfully an easy 5-minute fix. God forbid that any of the instructions mention that fact though!

    I have to replace the cartridges in both Moen faucets in my master bathroom about once a year because they start to drip. The next time I'm going to change brands not innards.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,627


    nyccarguy said:

    Update on my deck.  Things weren’t as bad as I imagined.  Quick review.  I have to leave a full 25’ between the wetlands.  This is called the “review area.”  So the new deck that was proposed was 16’ x 24’.  At those dimensions, the right corner of the deck was going to be sitting at 25’ 4” from the wetlands.  So instead of arguing over 4”, my contractor came up with the idea to make the deck 15’ x 25’ and moving it to the left so the “review area” will be completely clear.

    He said, this is why people have work done without permits.  The city breaks chops just to break chops and make people spend money.

    Things are in motion once again!

    Our town is notorious for requiring permits. We had some company give us an estimate for finishing the basement and they told us our town is only one of two where they would actually get permits before starting any work. 

    One of my neighbors finished their basement themselves without getting any permits. When they went to sell the house they tried to get the transfer stamps for the sale the town saw "finished basement" on the paperwork and reviewed all the permits for the house and couldn't find one for the basement. So the town refused to allow the sale until a permit was issued and the basement inspected. 


    It is very interesting what we found out. We had a plot plan that was drawn up by an architect for the previous owner 8 years ago before we bought the house. He had to have a new septic system put in. When my contractor presented the 2010 plot plan to the city, they rejected it and said we had to have new plans drawn up. Their reasoning was that the 2010 drawings didn't include a review area (the 25' from the wetlands where nothing can be built). The city also rejected the 2010 drawing because it didn't include a soil test. "How can this be?" my contractor asked. "These plans were approved by the city in order for the septic system to be installed." The woman my contractor was dealing with looks up the previous owner and says, "oh. I see. He has a close family member on the board. That's how this slipped through."

    SO for those of you who are curious, we are going with pressure treated wood frame and deck flooring. The railings and spindles will be plastic (azec is the material I believe). I'll make sure to take before & after pics. Current deck is 8' off the house and 15' wide (including the stairs). New (approved) deck will be 15' off the house and 25' long (plus the stairs).

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,182
    edited August 2018
    pensfan83 said:

    Over the years I've read stories in the local papers of entrepreneurs who want to open restaurants, tap rooms, and other businesses within the city limits and find the process so aggravating, time consuming, and expensive as it relates to permits and all the hoops they have to jump through just to do a build out some simply give up and find a place in the suburbs that welcomes them with arms. It's all a money grab in the end.

    Chick-fil-a and Popeyes both built new buildings here about two years ago. They both announced it about the same time. Chick-fil-a was located outside the city limits while Popeyes was in the city (business area, but still within the city limits). Chick-fil-a was open and operating almost a year before Popeyes.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477




    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me. 
    That's encouraging to hear; decreased demand= even lower prices! B)

    I love buying what other people are afraid of.....presuming that I'M not too afraid of it myself. I'd certainly risk a BMW or Benz (well MOST of them anyway) because I know how to deal with them (connections, I mean, to shops and parts)--even a Saab or Alfa---but there are a few cars I'm still quite shy of...OR...have already had my fill of personally, or have witnessed the bloodshed first hand.



    That's why I'm reluctant to stray from the Roadburner Trifecta- BMW/Mini, Jeep and Mazda. I know who the experts are as well as the best places to find parts.
    Although I am seriously tempted by a Giulia....

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477
    Speaking of out of warranty BMWs, the X3 I sold to my friend is still running strong. It just hit 215k miles and my friend said all he's done is replace the brake pads and put gas in it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,627

    Speaking of out of warranty BMWs, the X3 I sold to my friend is still running strong. It just hit 215k miles and my friend said all he's done is replace the brake pads and put gas in it.

    I've seen quite a few Mini Cooper S (clubman, countryman, hard top...) lately and they are far from slouches in the speed department. Yesterday AM, I attempted to follow one on a curvy highway in my Prelude. He was going A LOT faster than I was comfortable with and didn't seem to be breaking a sweat doing so.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477
    nyccarguy said:

    Speaking of out of warranty BMWs, the X3 I sold to my friend is still running strong. It just hit 215k miles and my friend said all he's done is replace the brake pads and put gas in it.

    I've seen quite a few Mini Cooper S (clubman, countryman, hard top...) lately and they are far from slouches in the speed department. Yesterday AM, I attempted to follow one on a curvy highway in my Prelude. He was going A LOT faster than I was comfortable with and didn't seem to be breaking a sweat doing so.
    The Cooper S is pretty quick once it gets rolling; even my wife's "Justa" Cooper hangs on pretty well- even with the Vredestein all-season rubber and base suspension. And it IS fun to throw around.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,152
    driver100 said:




    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    I'll tell you this, being on these forums and hearing what a lot of BMW and MB owners say has turned me away from getting one. I would welcome a "wannabe" from a company that has proven themselves to me


    Risk vs. Reward!
    You can play it safe, get a Toyota, it has tried and true old style mechanics. Nothing fancy, nothing edgy, nothing cutting edge, just old safe technology. If playing it safe, maximizing your car as an investment is your goal....then go with it. If you want performance, superior handling, latest technology....there is a price to be paid, the believers will pay the price for the privilege.

    The way I see it....I got one life to live and I want to live it to the max (on my scale). At the end I want to say I got a truly satisfying car that was better than I ever expected to own - what a blast, NOT, I am sure glad I got that boring but very reliable Toyota that got 38 miles to the gallon.

    I didn’t know my only choices were Toyota or Mercedes. :) Talk about extremes! Fortunately there are other very good vehicles out there that are fun to drive AND get good FE. Somewhere between super cheap and super expensive.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,210
    nyccarguy said:

    Speaking of out of warranty BMWs, the X3 I sold to my friend is still running strong. It just hit 215k miles and my friend said all he's done is replace the brake pads and put gas in it.

    I've seen quite a few Mini Cooper S (clubman, countryman, hard top...) lately and they are far from slouches in the speed department. Yesterday AM, I attempted to follow one on a curvy highway in my Prelude. He was going A LOT faster than I was comfortable with and didn't seem to be breaking a sweat doing so.
    Almost all MINIs have great handling. I've not pushed my daughter's Countryman S ALL4 all that much, but I hope the handling makes up for the harsh ride I get under normal conditions.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    nyccarguy said:
    Speaking of out of warranty BMWs, the X3 I sold to my friend is still running strong. It just hit 215k miles and my friend said all he's done is replace the brake pads and put gas in it.
    I've seen quite a few Mini Cooper S (clubman, countryman, hard top...) lately and they are far from slouches in the speed department. Yesterday AM, I attempted to follow one on a curvy highway in my Prelude. He was going A LOT faster than I was comfortable with and didn't seem to be breaking a sweat doing so.
    A little known fact about the Mini Cooper S. When they were testing it before going on sale they removed all the badging except the "S" so the people in the town they were testing it in wouldn't know what car was being tested on their street. The townsfolk just called it the "S car". When the townsfolk saw the car race down the street they would say in amazement "look at that S car go."

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477
    suydam said:



    I didn’t know my only choices were Toyota or Mercedes. :) Talk about extremes! Fortunately there are other very good vehicles out there that are fun to drive AND get good FE. Somewhere between super cheap and super expensive.

    I can't see owning a Camry OR a non-AMG Mercedes. I'm admittedly comfortable with BMWs since I've had one or more in the garage since 1983, but I could see owning a Cayman S, a Giulia Ti, a GT350, a Q60(sans the video game steering option), or even a Civic Type R- just to name a few cars that I find intriguing. Heck, if I was looking for a work beater I'd consider a Fiesta ST or a 500 Abarth. That said, my 2er really does tick all the boxes for me with respect to acceleration, handling, braking, comfort, and operating costs.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2018
    Just got a call from my grandson Dylan - he has a 5:30 AM flight to Lincoln Nebraska with a stop in Denver tomorrow morning.  Yep, my first grandson is off to college tomorrow.  

    He gave me his checking account number so I can deposit the remaining installment of his graduation gift right into his account - his bank has a branch right in the town where his college is.

    He’s already made contact with his roommate who is also on the baseball team.  So at least he has a jock for his roommate which is a good thing.  The university arranges to have all students flying in to Lincoln picked up at the airport.

    I have tears in my eyes - this was my little blond and blue-eyed grandson whose eyes lit up every time I saw him.  Now he is a man off to college.  The tears are for happiness and a little melancholia.  He’s not my “little boy” anymore.  :'(;)B)

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    edited August 2018


    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    They got the "no" part right anyway. The weird design of the infotainment screen is enough for me.


    ab348 said:



    I think that's the first time anyone applied that adjective to an Azera.

    It is like they are trying so hard...to match German luxury cars, but, try to be a bit different. Makes me want to say a good try.........but, why not just buy the real thing....and not a wannabe.

    Because you won't hear a Hyundai owner say that they would never own one out of warranty.
    I love to hear those hand-wringing bed wetters make comments like that- it keeps depreciation high and lets me pick up a nice car at a lower price. Of course the majority of those experts haven't even sat in the car they are talking about.

    -------------------------------------------------------

    Well, I’m not a Hyundai owner, and I’m not a “hand-wringing bed wetter “ (thanks for the insult, by the way), but I have said before that I would never own a Mercedes or BMW out of warranty. Of course, I’ve never owned one in warranty, either (smile).

    I have been adventurous in my own way, I have owned 2 Peugeots (you gotta admit that’s pretty weird!)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,728
    edited August 2018
    abacomike said:

    So at least he has a jock for his roommate which is a good thing.

    I've heard that non-jocks can be good roommates, as well. LOL

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2018
    So at least he has a jock for his roommate which is a good thing.
    I've heard that non-jocks can be good roommates, as well. LOL
    Come to think of it - a nerd roommate might be better for him.  So I have to retract my comment about jocks - a jock roommate might be the worst thing for him!  :o

    Thanks for for giving me more food for thought, imid!

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    BTW, my grandson received a total of $8500 more per year in additional scholarship money from his mother’s employer - thanks to his 4.0 GPA.  So no financial aid is required.  My son said it will cost him about $2000 a year for tuition and room/board.  What a relief.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Best wishes for his success, but I can't root for the Huskers ;)
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    Mike, you can send money to your grandson by phone using Cashapp, Venmo or Zelle
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    berri said:
    Best wishes for his success, but I can't root for the Huskers ;)
    He’s not at Nebraska - he’s at Doane University in Crete, NE, about 20 miles south of Lincoln.  It’s a small school with a $102 million endowment.  It was established in the mid 1800’s.  Several Major League Baseball players came out of that school.

    If he had gone to a division I or II school instead of a division III school, he’d sit on the bench for 2 years.  He wants to play baseball - not sit on the bench.  This way, he is a starting pitcher and will play 1st base - they also want him in the batting order because he hits well - had 8 home runs in his senior year in high school.  And....this way he gets a 65% scholarship (tuition/room/board) instead of a 50% scholarship at the University of CA San Bernardino, Los Angeles or Santa Barbara.

    Add the $8500 scholastic scholarship to that 65% sports scholarship, he goes to college at almost a full scholarship.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2018
    bwia said:
    Mike, you can send money to your grandson by phone using Cashapp, Venmo or Zelle
    Don’t need to.  Wells Fargo has a branch right in Crete, NE (town where the college is) and that’s his bank in CA.  I have a Wells Fargo branch across the road from where I live.

    I deposited funds for my son recently who also banks there.  I have to deposit checks, no cash.  For some reason, they don’t accept 2nd party deposits in cash to accounts where the depositor is not on the account.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,787
    qbrozen said:

    :D



    Q, you left out all the relevant information! How am I going to get set up at the track without your reservation number?! :(
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,787

    abacomike, it sounds like she relied on her airbags to deploy. They must have in this case to help save her. Texting, late and... driving!  :'(

    No, the evidence supports that she was only doing the first two. Driving? Not so much..... :)
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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Just stay off I-80 if you go into Nebraska. I once drove across that state running into one huge dust storm after another spurred on by huge sidewinds (took over 11 hours to traverse it on I-80). The worst was stopping at a gas station and as I opened my wallet to get a credit card, this huge wind vortex roared and literally sucked my wallet almost clean. No, we're not talking pickpockets in Paris or scammers. The only thing that saved me was that there was a ravine nearby where everything came to an abrupt halt, letting me retrieve the contents Mother nature tried to swipe. OK Mike, I can cheer for Doane, but as for the University, we've got representation at several competing Big 10 schools, so that ain't gonna happen ;) But I'll be honest, Omaha is a pretty nice city.
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    berri said:
    Just stay off I-80 if you go into Nebraska. I once drove across that state running into one huge dust storm after another spurred on by huge sidewinds (took over 11 hours to traverse it on I-80). The worst was stopping at a gas station and as I opened my wallet to get a credit card, this huge wind vortex roared and literally sucked my wallet almost clean. No, we're not talking pickpockets in Paris or scammers. The only thing that saved me was that there was a ravine nearby where everything came to an abrupt halt, letting me retrieve the contents Mother nature tried to swipe. OK Mike, I can cheer for Doane, but as for the University, we've got representation at several competing Big 10 schools, so that ain't gonna happen ;) But I'll be honest, Omaha is a pretty nice city.
    When I spoke with my grandson this afternoon I asked him if he was ready for lots of snow and cold weather.  He said he was looking forward to the snow since he has never seen snow close up.  I responded to his comment and said that he will soon hate the sight of that white stuff.  As for cold weather, he said it will be a relief to get out of the 110+ degrees in Palm Desert.  I then reminded him about 100+ degree summers in Nebraska and the fact that most of NE is part of Tornado Alley.

    He then said that his education was more important than cold, snow and tornadoes.  Oh, to be young again!  :D

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