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stickguy · February 2019

a lot of Canada geese squawking. Does that count?

[Deleted User] · February 2019

stickguy said:
I am surprised some maker has not come out with that option yet. Cars are loaded with computers and cameras anyway, should be a piece of cake to make it happen.

Exactly what happened with Tesla. The 3 has all the hardware but the software came later. The first update added the ability to record while driving and save events to a USB stick. The latest update records when there’s a security event while parked. Hopefully more manufacturers will do the same.

oldfarmer50 · February 2019

Does this site have a log in time limit? The reason I ask is that since I leave the Edmunds window open and never log out, this page is always a click away and I don’t have to sign in. But every few weeks I open the window to Howdy Stranger and have to go through the process of logging in and paswords.

Just wondering why.

driver100 · February 2019

abacomike said:
PUG was $2.49.9 which is 10 cents a gallon lower than the Costco close to me and 38 cents a gallon lower than the nearest competitor. t.

I paid $1.39 for gas.

Unfortunately it was at Taco Bell!

snakeweasel · February 2019

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

abacomike said:
BTW, it is 86 degrees right now with a feels like 95 degree - quite humid. Feels like summer - not ready for this kind of heat.
I'm sorry to hear about your problem.
As I was sliding around in a snow storm today driving a convertible Mustang (don’t ask) I thought how much suffering Mike would have driving this car with the top down and the birds singing. Poor guy.
You can have that too....don't you have any crows around this time of year?

Mainly it's those damned Canadian geese, speaking of which there was a bunch of them just standing in the middle of the road as I was leaving my home yesterday. As I slowly drove through them forcing them out of my was one of them ran across in front of me just as my path was clear and I was starting to speed up.

ab348 · February 2019

oldfarmer50 said:
Does this site have a log in time limit? The reason I ask is that since I leave the Edmunds window open and never log out, this page is always a click away and I don’t have to sign in. But every few weeks I open the window to Howdy Stranger and have to go through the process of logging in and paswords.

Just wondering why.

It seems to require a fresh login every month or so.

abacomike · February 2019

ab348 said:

Does this site have a log in time limit? The reason I ask is that since I leave the Edmunds window open and never log out, this page is always a click away and I don’t have to sign in. But every few weeks I open the window to Howdy Stranger and have to go through the process of logging in and paswords. Just wondering why.
It seems to require a fresh login every month or so.

That’s what I experience on my iPhone and on my PC.

abacomike · February 2019

I was out having lunch with some friends yesterday when I noticed that a salesman from Lexus whom I worked with years ago was sitting at the counter. I walked over and got reacquainted. He still works at the same dealership.

I mentioned to him that next year in November I would be looking at possibly leasing an ES350 fairly loaded. He said to look him up - that he would be able to lease the car fo me at a cap cost of dealer invoice, no dealer fees and at their buy rate for the money factor. So, I am preparing for my next car 18+ months ahead of time. Sounds to me like a good deal. Let’s hope he’s still working there when I’m ready.

driver100 · February 2019

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

abacomike said:
BTW, it is 86 degrees right now with a feels like 95 degree - quite humid. Feels like summer - not ready for this kind of heat.
I'm sorry to hear about your problem.
As I was sliding around in a snow storm today driving a convertible Mustang (don’t ask) I thought how much suffering Mike would have driving this car with the top down and the birds singing. Poor guy.
You can have that too....don't you have any crows around this time of year?
Mainly it's those damned Canadian geese, speaking of which there was a bunch of them just standing in the middle of the road as I was leaving my home yesterday. As I slowly drove through them forcing them out of my was one of them ran across in front of me just as my path was clear and I was starting to speed up.

Makes for a good dinner!

You can try this simple recipe, Canada Goose with popcorn stuffing;

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Brush Goose well with melted butter, salt, and pepper.

Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn. Place in baking pan making sure the neck end is toward the front of the oven, not the back.

After about 4 hours listen for the sounds of popping kernels.

When the turkey's rear blows the oven door open and the bird flies across the room... You know it's Done!!

driver100 · February 2019

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Does this site have a log in time limit? The reason I ask is that since I leave the Edmunds window open and never log out, this page is always a click away and I don’t have to sign in. But every few weeks I open the window to Howdy Stranger and have to go through the process of logging in and paswords.

Just wondering why.
It seems to require a fresh login every month or so.

I find that too. I am doing fine and then it says Howdy Stranger. Kind of feel insulted, here they are my friend then suddenly I am a stranger. Might be for safety reasons, someone steels your computer and posts as you - they can only do it for awhile......I kind of suspect that JMonroe1 since he writes shorter, funnier posts.

snakeweasel · February 2019

driver100 said:

BTW, it is 86 degrees right now with a feels like 95 degree - quite humid. Feels like summer - not ready for this kind of heat.
I'm sorry to hear about your problem.
As I was sliding around in a snow storm today driving a convertible Mustang (don’t ask) I thought how much suffering Mike would have driving this car with the top down and the birds singing. Poor guy.
You can have that too....don't you have any crows around this time of year?
Mainly it's those damned Canadian geese, speaking of which there was a bunch of them just standing in the middle of the road as I was leaving my home yesterday. As I slowly drove through them forcing them out of my was one of them ran across in front of me just as my path was clear and I was starting to speed up.
Makes for a good dinner! You can try this simple recipe, Canada Goose with popcorn stuffing; Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Brush Goose well with melted butter, salt, and pepper. Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn. Place in baking pan making sure the neck end is toward the front of the oven, not the back. After about 4 hours listen for the sounds of popping kernels. When the turkey's rear blows the oven door open and the bird flies across the room... You know it's Done!!

Wait, this recipe turns a goose into a turkey?

fintail · February 2019

I think Tesla has a built in cam capability, along with a Corvette, but the functionality lags aftermarket systems. That might be a problem with built-in cams from the factory, they will become relics. I'd be happy with built-in wiring and mounts for your own cam.

qbrozen · February 2019

stickguy said:
I am surprised some maker has not come out with that option yet. Cars are loaded with computers and cameras anyway, should be a piece of cake to make it happen.

Chevy has had that on the vette for a while now. I think their intention is to use it to record your track days, but I don't see why it wouldn't work on the street.

oldfarmer50 · February 2019

abacomike said:

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Does this site have a log in time limit? The reason I ask is that since I leave the Edmunds window open and never log out, this page is always a click away and I don’t have to sign in. But every few weeks I open the window to Howdy Stranger and have to go through the process of logging in and paswords.

Just wondering why.
It seems to require a fresh login every month or so.

That’s what I experience on my iPhone and on my PC.

Oh good, I thought that you guys were trying to blackball me or something.

Now I only have to worry about those CIA drones......

snakeweasel · February 2019

oldfarmer50 said:

Oh good, I thought that you guys were trying to blackball me or something.

Who says we're not?

houdini2 · February 2019

Michaell said:

graphicguy said:
Always been a flat tax proponent. You make more? You pay more! That includes corporations.....Pretty simple. You get rid of ½ of the IRS by simplifying. Tax Attorneys and CPAs would have to find another area to ply their trade.

It would cost me more. But, it would cost me less for accounting, financial planning and there'd be much less opportunity for the kinds of shenanigans where politicians and corporation pay NO tax. Then, we could all finance the important things with it (and we all know what those things are), I'd be first in line to vote for the person who is an advocate.
Steve Forbes for President!

I'm a big flat tax proponent as well.

Do your taxes on a post card!

It's all about finding the right rate.

Yes, very simple: 1. How much did you make? 2. Send it in.

driver100 · February 2019

Today I did something I don't like to see others do when driving, I will try not to do it again.
I was at a STOP sign on a side road, about to turn right onto a 4 lane (2 lanes each way) 55 mph major road
There was an old smashed up Chevy pick up truck on the major road and he was in the right lane.
I had time to turn right, but in case he was going faster than I thought, I didn't want to be in front of him, so I went into the left lane when I came out of the side street.
I see people doing this a lot especially down here.....on one level it makes sense.
I think the problem is it could cause confusion and could result in an accident. The truck may have assumed I would go into the right lane and so he goes into the left lane at the same time.
I don't like it when they do it to me so I am going to try my best not to do it again, honest!

driver100 · February 2019

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

abacomike said:
BTW, it is 86 degrees right now with a feels like 95 degree - quite humid. Feels like summer - not ready for this kind of heat.
I'm sorry to hear about your problem.
As I was sliding around in a snow storm today driving a convertible Mustang (don’t ask) I thought how much suffering Mike would have driving this car with the top down and the birds singing. Poor guy.
You can have that too....don't you have any crows around this time of year?
Mainly it's those damned Canadian geese, speaking of which there was a bunch of them just standing in the middle of the road as I was leaving my home yesterday. As I slowly drove through them forcing them out of my was one of them ran across in front of me just as my path was clear and I was starting to speed up.
Makes for a good dinner!

You can try this simple recipe, Canada Goose with popcorn stuffing;

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Brush Goose well with melted butter, salt, and pepper.

Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn. Place in baking pan making sure the neck end is toward the front of the oven, not the back.

After about 4 hours listen for the sounds of popping kernels.

When the turkey's rear blows the oven door open and the bird flies across the room... You know it's Done!!

Wait, this recipe turns a goose into a turkey?

That's the beauty of it...put in a Canada Goose...get back a turkey.

tjc78 · February 2019

driver100 said:

Today I did something I don't like to see others do when driving, I will try not to do it again. I was at a STOP sign on a side road, about to turn right onto a 4 lane (2 lanes each way) 55 mph major road There was an old smashed up Chevy pick up truck on the major road and he was in the right lane. I had time to turn right, but in case he was going faster than I thought, I didn't want to be in front of him, so I went into the left lane when I came out of the side street. I see people doing this a lot especially down here.....on one level it makes sense. I think the problem is it could cause confusion and could result in an accident. The truck may have assumed I would go into the right lane and so he goes into the left lane at the same time. I don't like it when they do it to me so I am going to try my best not to do it again, honest!

Nobody is perfect! I’ve done that before too, again not really the *right* thing to do but it happens.

Mr_Shiftright · February 2019

fintail said:
I think Tesla has a built in cam capability, along with a Corvette, but the functionality lags aftermarket systems. That might be a problem with built-in cams from the factory, they will become relics. I'd be happy with built-in wiring and mounts for your own cam.

Exactly. And Kia will have one in a year or two and it'll be better.

pensfan83 · February 2019

Here are a few pictures or more trip to Mexico. Visited the the Pyramid of the Sun and Moon. The first and 3rd pictures are from the Pyramid of the Sun.

driver100 · February 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:

fintail said:
I think Tesla has a built in cam capability, along with a Corvette, but the functionality lags aftermarket systems. That might be a problem with built-in cams from the factory, they will become relics. I'd be happy with built-in wiring and mounts for your own cam.
Exactly. And Kia will have one in a year or two and it'll be better.

Asian car makers don't do much innovating...but, man can they copy and improve, then offer at a cheap price.

Mr_Shiftright · February 2019

I think that's changing right now--seems to be. They are certainly upping their game with some outstanding cars in entry level luxury, luxury and EVs.

driver100 · February 2019

pensfan83 said:
Here are a few pictures or more trip to Mexico. Visited the the Pyramid of the Sun and Moon. The first and 3rd pictures are from the Pyramid of the Sun.

It reminds me of looking at the pyramids in Egypt. I expected to see a maximum of 500 people milling about. I think there was about 500 buses on the site and 1000s of people. Lots of people ready to rip you off, if they push a map or a photo into your hand and you hold it it is yours and you have to pay for it.

Camel rides were $25 and they take you about 1/2 a mile riding a camel. What they don't tell you is it is another $25 to come back and $10 if you need help getting off.

driver100 · February 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:
I think that's changing right now--seems to be. They are certainly upping their game with some outstanding cars in entry level luxury, luxury and EVs.

True, but they are copies of what has been done before. I think they even buy the original plans from other manufacturers. A Genesis is a perfect example......study a Mercedes or BMW and copy it as best as you can, and offer it at a cheaper price.

Mr_Shiftright · February 2019

True, but if your copy is better than the original, how is that not innovative? I mean, at what point can we say that the student has defeated the master?

If you are BMW or Tesla, there's someone breathing down your neck right now.

ab348 · February 2019

driver100 said:

True, but they are copies of what has been done before. I think they even ~~buy~~ steal the original plans from other manufacturers. A Genesis is a perfect example......study a Mercedes or BMW and copy it as best as you can, and offer it at a cheaper price.

Fixed your post. They are artful mimics but do very little innovating of their own.

ab348 · February 2019

We experienced an unspeakable tragedy locally overnight. Seven children perish in a house fire. Words fail me. I just cannot imagine.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/fatal-fire-spryfield-1.5024174

28firefighter · February 2019

I have been on some terrible fires, but they don't even come close to that. So sorry to hear. May their memories be a blessing.

PF_Flyer · February 2019

oldfarmer50 said:
Does this site have a log in time limit? The reason I ask is that since I leave the Edmunds window open and never log out, this page is always a click away and I don’t have to sign in. But every few weeks I open the window to Howdy Stranger and have to go through the process of logging in and paswords.

Just wondering why.

Not related to the site or forums software. I get logged out now and then, but it's not on all my devices so that sort of eliminates the site. On my laptop/desktop, I assume it's because of occasional Windows updates/restarts. It has happened the least on my Android phone, which coincidentally, has fewer updates (at least on my phone) Seems to happen about as often as OS updates on my iPad as well.

I'll have to pay closer attention to firm up my opinion

driver100 · February 2019

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

True, but they are copies of what has been done before. I think they even ~~buy~~ steal the original plans from other manufacturers. A Genesis is a perfect example......study a Mercedes or BMW and copy it as best as you can, and offer it at a cheaper price.
Fixed your post. They are artful mimics but do very little innovating of their own.

lol....nicely fixed.
What have Asian car makers introduced besides the coin holder which was over 30 years ago, and electrical wire coating made out of soy.....which mice love to eat?

ab348 · February 2019

The Asian makes seem to be very innovative in coming up with angry-looking "faces" for vehicles.

suydam · February 2019

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

True, but they are copies of what has been done before. I think they even ~~buy~~ steal the original plans from other manufacturers. A Genesis is a perfect example......study a Mercedes or BMW and copy it as best as you can, and offer it at a cheaper price.
Fixed your post. They are artful mimics but do very little innovating of their own.
lol....nicely fixed.
What have Asian car makers introduced besides the coin holder which was over 30 years ago, and electrical wire coating made out of soy.....which mice love to eat?

Reliable cars that run well and last a long time? In the 80s that was pretty innovative. They also built really, nice small cars that were fuel efficient. I consider that pretty innovative.

Mr_Shiftright · February 2019

Nonetheless they are up and comers. Everybody steals from everybody, so that's not news. American car buyers shop value and reliability. If an automaker can provide that, well, welcome to the alleged "free market".

driver100 · February 2019

28firefighter said:
I have been on some terrible fires, but they don't even come close to that. So sorry to hear. May their memories be a blessing.

Sorry to hear....raises a few questions.
Why no smoke detectors?
Were these people trained how to use a stove, heater furnace?
A lot of refugees were sponsored but the sponsors back out and leave them to fend for themselves. I have heard about that happening.

ab348 · February 2019

It is still very early times for reporting of specifics on this, but to Driver's questions, they were in a newish rental house, so smoke detectors would have been hard-wired most likely. Not sure of the heat source other than that the area does not have natural gas service, but neighbors reported hearing a loud bang. Their sponsors are very much involved with the aftermath today. From all early reports they were fitting in well in the area.

The downside of being in a newish structure is that they are much more flammable than older homes.

driver100 · February 2019

suydam said:

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

True, but they are copies of what has been done before. I think they even ~~buy~~ steal the original plans from other manufacturers. A Genesis is a perfect example......study a Mercedes or BMW and copy it as best as you can, and offer it at a cheaper price.
Fixed your post. They are artful mimics but do very little innovating of their own.
lol....nicely fixed.
What have Asian car makers introduced besides the coin holder which was over 30 years ago, and electrical wire coating made out of soy.....which mice love to eat?
Reliable cars that run well and last a long time? In the 80s that was pretty innovative. They also built really, nice small cars that were fuel efficient. I consider that pretty innovative.

They weren't reliable at first, then they learned how to copy better than the original. But, reliability isn't an innovation, that is just copying better. Not denying they do a good job of copying, but, very little actual innovation....oh yeh, forgot the floating roofline.

henryn · February 2019

driver100 said:

They weren't reliable at first, then they learned how to copy better than the original. But, reliability isn't an innovation, that is just copying better. Not denying they do a good job of copying, but, very little actual innovation....oh yeh, forgot the floating roofline.

I'm sorry, but that is a nonsensical statement. How exactly would you "copy better than the original"???

You could "copy", and then "improve on the copy" but it would no longer be a copy.

isellhondas · February 2019

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:
People in FL get what they pay for, maybe like that part of the country in general. Low taxes, low amenities, other issues. I like in an area invaded by transplants, and I know nobody who moved to FL and didn't come running back.

stickguy said:
nice house. and cheap per Zillow. I can see why people move to FLorida if can get that house for that price, and negligible property taxes (and cheap state taxes). I just know that my wife would never live there year round.

Strange, I know nobody who moved to Florida that didn't stay.

I do! The BUGS and the humidity got to them and they bailed out of Florida!

explorerx4 · February 2019

Maybe in Canada newer houses are more flammable, but not here in the US.
Our town has houses dating back the 1600's. They just go up and nothing can be done about it.

ab348 · February 2019

explorerx4 said:
Maybe in Canada newer houses are more flammable, but not here in the US.
Our town has houses dating back the 1600's. They just go up and nothing can be done about it.

I wonder. Here the new ones made with OSB and open truss roofs and floors (plus engineered wood or vinyl flooring) go up like a book of matches.

fintail · February 2019

I think the modern pioneer of the played out faux floating C-pillar is the Opel Adam, entering production 6 years ago:

No need to innovate when the product is reliable, and maybe puts on an aggressive face to fool the masses. Most people have little desire for bleeding edge tech or good design.

driver100 said:

They weren't reliable at first, then they learned how to copy better than the original. But, reliability isn't an innovation, that is just copying better. Not denying they do a good job of copying, but, very little actual innovation....oh yeh, forgot the floating roofline.

cdnpinhead · February 2019

ab348 said:
Here the new ones made with OSB . . .

When I was living in Edmonton in the early '70s I built a fence with panels of an early (possibly the first) version of OSB called aspenite. It was much cheaper than plywood but now seems to have taken over much of the market. Who knew that plywood would become a premium product.

suydam · February 2019

I’m curious. What would be late 60’s “original” of a car like the Honda Accord or Toyota Corolla? I know when my mom bought a Corona in 1969, it was because she couldn’t find a compact American vehicle.

Sandman6472 · February 2019

Drove a 2018 Porsche 911 yesterday that was a turn back. White over ivory. Super fast and fun! My lead driver knows I like fun stuff so he tossed me the keys and said, have fun! Definitely did!!!

cdnpinhead · February 2019

Speaking of Honda, I read an article in Popular Science back in the early '60s that had to do with Honda motorcycles -- remember the 250 & 300 scramblers, the 305 dream and the smaller 90s and 150/160s? Anyway, related to the 250/300 engines, the PS quote was "the engine is built like a watch and isn't a copy of anything." Chain-driven overhead cams in engines of this size weren't available anywhere else in those days, to my knowledge.

I still drive a Honda product, and my put is that engine reliability is at the heart of where they are today. Honda is an engine company that has developed very successful platforms, from motorcycles, generators and lawnmowers to cars.

Mr_Shiftright · February 2019

isellhondas said:

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:
People in FL get what they pay for, maybe like that part of the country in general. Low taxes, low amenities, other issues. I like in an area invaded by transplants, and I know nobody who moved to FL and didn't come running back.

stickguy said:
nice house. and cheap per Zillow. I can see why people move to FLorida if can get that house for that price, and negligible property taxes (and cheap state taxes). I just know that my wife would never live there year round.

Strange, I know nobody who moved to Florida that didn't stay.
I do! The BUGS and the humidity got to them and they bailed out of Florida!

Wait until the serious flooding starts to get worse. St Petersburg, Tampa, Miami, Miami Beach and Panama City are predicted to be seriously compromised. Zillow advises buyers that 1 in 8 homes in Florida will be underwater by 2100 and NOAA says that Miami streets will flood every year after 2070. Nothing for US to worry about unless you are a baby checking into the Forums.

berri · February 2019

I'll give this to Japan years back; they forced GM and Ford to up their quality and get more efficient. Good news, because today I think things have leveled quite a bit between the different manufacturer's. Just imagine what the vehicle situation in the US would be today if the GM Ford duopoly still reigned - remember the quality level and price increases back in the 70's before the Asians set up transplants?

abacomike · February 2019

driver100 said:

True, but they are copies of what has been done before. I think they even ~~buy~~ steal the original plans from other manufacturers. A Genesis is a perfect example......study a Mercedes or BMW and copy it as best as you can, and offer it at a cheaper price.
Fixed your post. They are artful mimics but do very little innovating of their own.
lol....nicely fixed. What have Asian car makers introduced besides the coin holder which was over 30 years ago, and electrical wire coating made out of soy.....which mice love to eat?

Wood and leather steering wheels and higher grade leather seating.

abacomike · February 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:

People in FL get what they pay for, maybe like that part of the country in general. Low taxes, low amenities, other issues. I like in an area invaded by transplants, and I know nobody who moved to FL and didn't come running back.
nice house. and cheap per Zillow. I can see why people move to FLorida if can get that house for that price, and negligible property taxes (and cheap state taxes). I just know that my wife would never live there year round.

Strange, I know nobody who moved to Florida that didn't stay.
I do! The BUGS and the humidity got to them and they bailed out of Florida!
Wait until the serious flooding starts to get worse. St Petersburg, Tampa, Miami, Miami Beach and Panama City are predicted to be seriously compromised. Zillow advises buyers that 1 in 8 homes in Florida will be underwater by 2100 and NOAA says that Miami streets will flood every year after 2070. Nothing for US to worry about unless you are a baby checking into the Forums.

There are sections of Miami Beach that flood with ocean water during King Moons several times a year. Miami does not flood yet nor does Ft. Lauderdale.

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