I would be if it were not for the politician pollution you suffer there. Also there's too much of a good thing. I grew up back east, I still remember what it was like. Brrr.
I am jealous. Our winter has been a big dissapointment. We may get sleet and snow today, but it'll likely pass by from the south. Hope it turns north and stays, for about a week!
My wish list for the '03 Forester?
* low range * more clearance, at least room for more tire * turbo and/or H6 * more space like the new Impreza got * rear multilink suspension would open cargo area nicely * tow package w/tranny cooler
That's about it.
H6 or turbo? For now, I say turbo. GM did hint that more parts would be US-supplied, and if so that increases the odds for an H6 Forester.
So I'll take that bet. Loser buys the first round.
We've actually had the most snow and sleet in a number of years this winter, and since it's mid-Feb we have more time to add to it. I picked the right winter to finally outfit both cars with winter tires, that's for sure.
Like it's not enough to be Foresterless for 2.5 months, my long-awaited DRIVE magazine never arrived. I called 1-800-SUBARU3 as Patti has suggested (called customer serviced first time in 9 years of Subaru ownership -- not bad). Got to talk to 3 customer reps, and got 3 different answers, from "just call us back with VIN #, and we'll send your request to the DRIVE office", to "you need to talk to your dealer" (huh?). When advised to talk to the dealer, I pulled out the secret weapon, in the form of Patti Mickel's name. Then I was assured I'll get the Winter Drive in the mail soon.
Somehow I don't feel all that assured... Patti, if you read this message, could you please check on this request. Reps sounded not really sure how to deal with it. I started getting my DRIVE after purchasing my Forester in July, but the Winter issue never came. All I want is to be reinstated in your database, as a legitimate recepient of the DRIVE mag. The last rep I talked to was Mike, and before him it was Danine (if I spell her name correctly). They did not tell me my case # (if there is a case) , but it's Kate G. from Castro Valley, CA, so you can probably locate my request easily.
so that you can at least read it while you wait. Whoops I just checked and the winter one isn't on there yet. (Nor is the '02 Impreza and WRX brochures on there yet... arrrrrrrhhhhhhggg)
This Saturday, my buddy and I decided to go for a day trip to Tahoe. There's been a winter storm here in the Bay Area and snow levels were dropping to below 1000 ft. We hopped into his MY00 Forester S on Saturday morning at 5:30AM (his vehicle has never touched snow) and headed out.
By the time we were at Auburn (about an hour away from Tahoe) we learned that Caltrans had shut down highway 80 due to heavy snow and a large number of spinouts. It was 8AM and the earliest they would reopen was 9AM. We decided to hang around and wait to see what would happen. At 9:15, the latest report was for a 10AM re-open.
Instead of just waiting around, we decided to try one of the local roads and keep moving as far as we could go. Just a few miles outside of Auburn, we hit snow -- very unusual. Soon we were driving through some backroads with at least 3-5" inches of fresh snow. The snow was coming down hard so we bagged the idea of 'boarding and decided to do what every die-hard Subaru owner would do -- DRIVE!
We were driving around with the rest of SUVs and 4x4s passing 2WD vehicles unable to move on the side of the road. The Forester just kept going. There was very little slipping when starting from a stop despite the nearly worn Geolandars on my friend's Forester.
Some of the backroads clearly didn't have any traffic and the snow had piled up to the level of the headlights. The front brushgaurd kind of acted like a snowplow and we were able to easily cut a path as long as we kept momentum. At some points, the snow (very heavy and wet) bogged us down so one of us would jump out and give a little push and we were off on our way. It was times like these were we felt an auto would have been better -- there was quite a bit of clutch slipping needed to get out of some of those situations. Also, we both agreed that a torque-on-demand type system (ie. CR-V) would not have fared well in this kind of situation. Kudos to Subaru for giving it's vehicles the option for a 50:50 power split.
After an hour or so we found a wide, open lot with about 1" of snow all around. The snow was pretty heavy so we couldn't do any slides but it was fun to muscle our way through. It was very cool to see all four wheels spinning at different rates as the Forester pulled it's way through. Of course neither one of us had a camera to capture the action.
Then it happened. I was driving along when there was a truck stopped smack in the middle of the road. The shoulders were wide so I started easing around it when the right side slid into a drainage ditch. I tried giving the Forester a little gas but we were tilted at an angle that prevented us from getting sufficient traction on the left side even with the rear LSD. We slipped on some chains on the front left tire and the Forester pulled forward. After about 20 feet of driving with the left side in the ditch, the Forester managed to gain enough forward momentum to get back onto the road. Thank goodness for the extra ground clearance and long travel suspension. Without it, a regular passenger car would clearly have been stuck.
So, the take home points for our adventure are:
- Always carry chains, shovel and tow straps in heavy snow - 4EAT is better for lots of low-traction situations - A Forester with snow tires is probably unstoppable - A Subaru gives you something to do when you can't make it to the slopes!
Hello. I am interested in the real-life MPG of the new H6 Outback. I am very interested in buying one and hear they are great. I want to know what MPG folks are actually getting. I think the EPA says 18-20?
No, apparently not. The right side had the weight of the car so that helped to maintain traction. I think the rear LSD did help provide forward traction until the front left tire with chains could get enough "bite".
Luckily, there was no body damage. The Forester was inches away from a wall of rocks! My friend, Tony, claims he wasn't worried, but I sure was!
...there is a new folder in Subaru Crew that contains links to other Subaru discussions throughout the Town Hall. Please let me know if there are discussions you would like to see included.
I have an LL Bean wagon with a bit over 1,600 miles to date. My mpg has ranged from roughly 18 to 21.4 so far. My driving is generally 70-75% city (Chicago area) and 25-30% expressway. Temperature has ranged from sub zero to mid 30s. The lowest recording (only one reading) was 16.9 and that was about the second or third fillup during December when we did not get above freezing. In fact, the month was the coldest December on record for these parts. Mileage figures the last three times have been between 20.9 and 21.4.
Hope this is helpful. Incidently, my '96 Outback (with auto) did not do much better in the winter!
Is there a way to automatically link files? For example, if a new title appears that has a "Subaru-related" word, such as: Forester, VDC, OBS, AWD, etc., can that "trigger" a new "automatic" link to this folder?
Now, you may get some "false" files in there. For example, AWD could trigger a number of non-Subaru topics. However, once new topic is created, you could double-check to see if it is indeed a Subaru related topic. If it's not, you could "un-link" it from this folder.
I know there are a number of Subaru (or Subaru model) vs. (name of vehicle) topics scattered throughout these boards that probably should be included.
I was wondering how many of you have named your cars?
I got my new Subaru last Wednesday (I have 283 miles on it now, whoo-hoo!). It's a Sedona Red Forester S with Premium Package... and it's a total joy to drive. So smooth, so powerful, so luxurious. I adore the manual transmission and clutch. (For the past 11 years, I've been driving a bare-bones '91 Honda Civic sedan, without power steering or any options other than air conditioning).
The car was christened over the weekend by a good friend... "Forester Grump." ("Grump" is one of my nicknames).
Karen may correct me on this, but AFAIK, no. We have to do it manually. It's probably best anyway, since we often freeze and redirect new topics if there are already existing ones.
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Well guys I am just a rattlin off the walls right now, why? cause I just ordered a brand new 2001 GT wagon in Titanium pearl for delivery mid march. Yahoo!but it is going to be a long 4 weeks
Great photo, ateixeira! And a very nice-looking Forester.
I've got to get someone to take a photo of me with Forester Grump. Right now, I'm using my old Civic as my commuter car (I have a 4.5-mile drive to work, and I'm trying to break in FG with highway miles), so FG mostly lives in my garage during the weekdays.
Quick technical question-- do you have to use photopoint.com in order to display photos as part of a message on this bulletin board?
Thanks Juice,this has been a while coming, have already ordered a spoiler and tweeter kit from Darlene. Next thing to go will be the cheesy stereo and speakers, I am already looking at a sweet cassette cd combo from JVCmod.kw-xc770, you can see it on crutchfields site. By the way Juice did you realise that Darlene has the Forester spoiler on sale for $75. Cheers Pat. PS. Juice my wife has claimed that of me for years.
Sorry, Frank. I missed your later posting about ordering a brochure from the website. That's what I get for being out a week and trying to read a few hundred messages! :-)
Can I just say that the Edmunds polls are getting worse every week? C'mon...am I a minivan or a station wagon? What? And what is the dif between being a monster truck and being an SUV? Waste of bandwidth, unless it had funnier choices, but alas....
Paisan - I didn't design the NYS Thruway rest areas, but the guy in our office who is in charge of the rest area projects did - in another firm. They're a huge improvement over the concrete block shacks of 30+ years ago.
YetAnotherDave - Come to think of it, I have seen the Outback the Offical Subaru Team" graphics - I think it's part of a ski team sponsor ship. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Karin: you don't have to use PhotoPoint as a host site, but you certainly can. It's free and easy.
Other sites that I won't name *cough* homepage.com *cough* don't allow you to host a photo without having users visit their site.
Pat: yeah, Darlene mentioned the spoiler to me. I prefer the wind deflector, personally. Also, the $75 includes shipping (which is a great deal) but you still have to pay to have it painted and installed.
What I like is the JDM grille with the cool "F" logo on it. It you haven't seen it, check out the i Club's photo gallery. I know some of those are a bit over-the-top, but certain details are neat.
Second time I came to pick up my Forester. This time I discovered a puddle of water under the spare tire -- and some rust started already buidling up. It looks like the bozos in the shop did not weld rear body panel well. The water rolling down from tailgate on the bumper gets into the spare tire well where everything happily rusts after that.
In addition, the cargo floor is sort of popping out, exposing 1/2 inch of the space underneath. The bozos were doing "all new Foresters are this way" routine again, so we had to visit dealership, to see how neatly cargo floor lays in all new Foresters...
Time for an action I guess! I've been patient for 2.5 months of abuse, now it's time to do something about it. The problem is, what can a poor customer do? Withold payments? Take them to small court? At any rate, they'll be probably promising to fix everything "next week", and I'll remain Foresterless for next few months.
Any suggestions? Ideally, I'd like to take the car to another shop and ask them to fix everything the first shop did not or butched. Now it's a matter of getting insurance to cover it. Any better ideas?
Drew is correct. Automatic linking isn't possible. And if it was, it could get very messy with duplicate discussions and those that are deleted, etc. So, you'll have to rely on little ole me to keep it updated. I'll take a swing through the TH this week and find the comparison discussions.
Kate, I hate to say "I told you so" but way back when they said that the parts had to come from that particular dealer I would have bailed on that shop! I'd get on your insurance company and start calling the BBB, the state attorney's office, and anyone else who would listen! It's ridiculous that you should have to put up with crappola like that!
I agree - work on the insurance company. Demand a loaner until it is fixed to satisfactory condition. That will give them the incentive to push the body shop, because it costs them, thus helping you.
Also ask to speak to the body shop's manager, and let him know how poor their work has been - show him, even. If you have a digital camera, take pitures and show him what the "after" has to look like to be acceptable.
Or demand a different body shop. The work sounds just awful sloppy.
I'm real sorry you have to put up with this. Gosh, I hope the shop that fixes my Miata knows what they're doing (at least there is only cosmetic damage). Fingers are crossed.
I was over at Santa Cruz Subaru for a service visit (see General Maintenance and Repair) and I had some extra time so I went to the sales office.
I've been kind of interested in the Legacy GT Wagon and asked if they had any 5-speeds around. Lo and behold, there was a white, 2001 5-speed right outside the door! Santa Cruz Subaru is one of those cool dealers that just hand you the keys and tell you to have fun.
Here are my impressions coming from a 98 Forester S 5-speed owner:
- Interior fit and finish was very nice. Much more upscale than the Forester. - Shifter has nice short throws. Much more smoother and precise than my Forester. - Clutch felt good. Less travel and smoother takeup. - Better sound insulation was apparent. Noticeably quieter on the freeway. - Less body roll (no duh), but the vehicle did feel less "tossable" probably due to the longer wheelbase. - Suspension had the classic firm but not harsh feel of Subarus. Although it did roll less than the Forester, it felt as though the GT had a softer spring set up. - Engine felt "adequate". I did wish there was more torque especially when accelerating from a stop. Once at freeway speeds, the power was fine.
Hmmm. All this for 22K. Not a bad deal at all. For kicks, I asked how much my Forester would trade in for: 15K with 50K miles on it.
Should I do it? Well, with the "rumor" that a 2.5turbo may be headed this way, I just may wait a bit longer.
Kate,you need to get your insurance involved thats part of what you pay insurance for they just cannot sit back and let you get hosed, first thing demand that it be moved to another shop this is your right if you feel that your car is never going to be right and that is the way things are looking. get your insurance agent or company or both and start throwing a bloody screaming fit you know the old adage the squeeky wheel gets the grease. Cheers Pat.
My wife's 00 Legacy GT Ltd is just over a year old with less than 4100 miles on it. Would a wheel-alignment still be covered under the factory warranty. It's always pulled to the right, but I didn't think it was worth it to bring it in. After a year of fighting the pull, I got tired of having to constantly correct. I've done the normal checking of tire pressures with both the original set of wheels and the winter set.
I think the normal adjustment period is a year or 12k miles. The B2B is longer, but I don't think it usually covers alignment.
If you have a good relationship with your dealer, they may do it for you anyway (especially if you have the Subaru extended warranty). It's worth asking, since your mileage is so low.
The adjustment warranty is 12/12, but, since your mileage is so low, your dealer will probably try to help. Before you go to the trouble, though, you may want to make sure that your Sube isn't just following the crown of the road. Also, do the tires show any unusual wear pattern?
juice -- I can't verify this, but I thought the Legacy had a different transmission compared to the Forester/2.5 RS. Aside from the throws being shorter, the gates did seem less notchy. Also, the clutch didn't seem as sensitive/grabby as on my Forester.
Patti -- Welcome back! Don't know if you read my post on the General Maintenance forum, but my meeting that Dene set up for me at Santa Cruz Subaru went very well. Thanks a million for your help!
I'm sorry you got different answers from our group. I'll look into it in the AM. Meanwhile, related to your repairs - go straight to the BBB in the repair shops area. 1st - check their record for responses - are they in good standing? Also, file a complaint with them and the local Chamber of Commerce. Make lot's of noise!!!!!!!! If you need to vent, feel free to give me a call at 1-800-SUBARU3. Even though we cannot "get involved" with an outside repair facility, I wouldn't mind making a call to them on my time to see if I can't prompt some action. Call me if you need me. Meanwhile, I'll check on your Winter Drive issue.
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Ross
My wish list for the '03 Forester?
* low range
* more clearance, at least room for more tire
* turbo and/or H6
* more space like the new Impreza got
* rear multilink suspension would open cargo area nicely
* tow package w/tranny cooler
That's about it.
H6 or turbo? For now, I say turbo. GM did hint that more parts would be US-supplied, and if so that increases the odds for an H6 Forester.
So I'll take that bet. Loser buys the first round.
:-)
-juice
-Colin
NAAAAAH!
-juice
Somehow I don't feel all that assured... Patti, if you read this message, could you please check on this request. Reps sounded not really sure how to deal with it. I started getting my DRIVE after purchasing my Forester in July, but the Winter issue never came. All I want is to be reinstated in your database, as a legitimate recepient of the DRIVE mag. The last rep I talked to was Mike, and before him it was Danine (if I spell her name correctly). They did not tell me my case # (if there is a case) , but it's Kate G. from Castro Valley, CA, so you can probably locate my request easily.
-mike
Frank
Careful with that secret weapon. We should reserve forces like that only when deemed necessary.
I don't have mine yet either. Off to the web site...
-juice
Frank
This Saturday, my buddy and I decided to go for a day trip to Tahoe. There's been a winter storm here in the Bay Area and snow levels were dropping to below 1000 ft. We hopped into his MY00 Forester S on Saturday morning at 5:30AM (his vehicle has never touched snow) and headed out.
By the time we were at Auburn (about an hour away from Tahoe) we learned that Caltrans had shut down highway 80 due to heavy snow and a large number of spinouts. It was 8AM and the earliest they would reopen was 9AM. We decided to hang around and wait to see what would happen. At 9:15, the latest report was for a 10AM re-open.
Instead of just waiting around, we decided to try one of the local roads and keep moving as far as we could go. Just a few miles outside of Auburn, we hit snow -- very unusual. Soon we were driving through some backroads with at least 3-5" inches of fresh snow. The snow was coming down hard so we bagged the idea of 'boarding and decided to do what every die-hard Subaru owner would do -- DRIVE!
We were driving around with the rest of SUVs and 4x4s passing 2WD vehicles unable to move on the side of the road. The Forester just kept going. There was very little slipping when starting from a stop despite the nearly worn Geolandars on my friend's Forester.
Some of the backroads clearly didn't have any traffic and the snow had piled up to the level of the headlights. The front brushgaurd kind of acted like a snowplow and we were able to easily cut a path as long as we kept momentum. At some points, the snow (very heavy and wet) bogged us down so one of us would jump out and give a little push and we were off on our way. It was times like these were we felt an auto would have been better -- there was quite a bit of clutch slipping needed to get out of some of those situations. Also, we both agreed that a torque-on-demand type system (ie. CR-V) would not have fared well in this kind of situation. Kudos to Subaru for giving it's vehicles the option for a 50:50 power split.
After an hour or so we found a wide, open lot with about 1" of snow all around. The snow was pretty heavy so we couldn't do any slides but it was fun to muscle our way through. It was very cool to see all four wheels spinning at different rates as the Forester pulled it's way through. Of course neither one of us had a camera to capture the action.
Then it happened. I was driving along when there was a truck stopped smack in the middle of the road. The shoulders were wide so I started easing around it when the right side slid into a drainage ditch. I tried giving the Forester a little gas but we were tilted at an angle that prevented us from getting sufficient traction on the left side even with the rear LSD. We slipped on some chains on the front left tire and the Forester pulled forward. After about 20 feet of driving with the left side in the ditch, the Forester managed to gain enough forward momentum to get back onto the road. Thank goodness for the extra ground clearance and long travel suspension. Without it, a regular passenger car would clearly have been stuck.
So, the take home points for our adventure are:
- Always carry chains, shovel and tow straps in heavy snow
- 4EAT is better for lots of low-traction situations
- A Forester with snow tires is probably unstoppable
- A Subaru gives you something to do when you can't make it to the slopes!
Ken
Thanks,
Dan
The open front axle didn't send all the power to the right side?
Also, any body damage?
-juice
PS Dan: 20/27 actually, but 22mpg in the real-world is likely
No, apparently not. The right side had the weight of the car so that helped to maintain traction. I think the rear LSD did help provide forward traction until the front left tire with chains could get enough "bite".
Luckily, there was no body damage. The Forester was inches away from a wall of rocks! My friend, Tony, claims he wasn't worried, but I sure was!
Ken
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Ken, great story!
..Mike
..Mike
I have an LL Bean wagon with a bit over 1,600 miles to date. My mpg has ranged from roughly 18 to 21.4 so far. My driving is generally 70-75% city (Chicago area) and 25-30% expressway. Temperature has ranged from sub zero to mid 30s. The lowest recording (only one reading) was 16.9 and that was about the second or third fillup during December when we did not get above freezing. In fact, the month was the coldest December on record for these parts. Mileage figures the last three times have been between 20.9 and 21.4.
Hope this is helpful. Incidently, my '96 Outback (with auto) did not do much better in the winter!
Don
Is there a way to automatically link files? For example, if a new title appears that has a "Subaru-related" word, such as: Forester, VDC, OBS, AWD, etc., can that "trigger" a new "automatic" link to this folder?
Now, you may get some "false" files in there. For example, AWD could trigger a number of non-Subaru topics. However, once new topic is created, you could double-check to see if it is indeed a Subaru related topic. If it's not, you could "un-link" it from this folder.
I know there are a number of Subaru (or Subaru model) vs. (name of vehicle) topics scattered throughout these boards that probably should be included.
Bob
Unlike THE CAT! Who nearly scared me to death at Edmunds Live. Not enough therapy in the world to forget that...
;-)
-juice
I got my new Subaru last Wednesday (I have 283 miles on it now, whoo-hoo!). It's a Sedona Red Forester S with Premium Package... and it's a total joy to drive. So smooth, so powerful, so luxurious. I adore the manual transmission and clutch. (For the past 11 years, I've been driving a bare-bones '91 Honda Civic sedan, without power steering or any options other than air conditioning).
The car was christened over the weekend by a good friend... "Forester Grump." ("Grump" is one of my nicknames).
cheerio,
Karin in California
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Yahoo!but it is going to be a long 4 weeks
Now all you need is a name, but wait until you meet her. ;-)
My wife jokes that Sandy is my mistress!
-juice
I've got to get someone to take a photo of me with Forester Grump. Right now, I'm using my old Civic as my commuter car (I have a 4.5-mile drive to work, and I'm trying to break in FG with highway miles), so FG mostly lives in my garage during the weekdays.
Quick technical question-- do you have to use photopoint.com in order to display photos as part of a message on this bulletin board?
Karin in [rainy, snowy] Northern California
Cheers Pat. PS. Juice my wife has claimed that of me for years.
Ross
You can get a WRX brochure, along with email updates from http://www.imprezawrx.com.
Near the upper right hand corner (by the stopwatch) click on "sign up for WRX updates".
-Dan
-Dan
GT, woohoo! Congrats, Pat!
..Mike
..Mike
Can I just say that the Edmunds polls are getting worse every week? C'mon...am I a minivan or a station wagon? What? And what is the dif between being a monster truck and being an SUV? Waste of bandwidth, unless it had funnier choices, but alas....
YetAnotherDave - Come to think of it, I have seen the Outback the Offical Subaru Team" graphics - I think it's part of a ski team sponsor ship. I'll keep an eye out for it.
John
Other sites that I won't name *cough* homepage.com *cough* don't allow you to host a photo without having users visit their site.
Pat: yeah, Darlene mentioned the spoiler to me. I prefer the wind deflector, personally. Also, the $75 includes shipping (which is a great deal) but you still have to pay to have it painted and installed.
What I like is the JDM grille with the cool "F" logo on it. It you haven't seen it, check out the i Club's photo gallery. I know some of those are a bit over-the-top, but certain details are neat.
-juice
Cheers Pat.
Mark
Second time I came to pick up my Forester. This time I discovered a puddle of water under the spare tire -- and some rust started already buidling up. It looks like the bozos in the shop did not weld rear body panel well. The water rolling down from tailgate on the bumper gets into the spare tire well where everything happily rusts after that.
In addition, the cargo floor is sort of popping out, exposing 1/2 inch of the space underneath. The bozos were doing "all new Foresters are this way" routine again, so we had to visit dealership, to see how neatly cargo floor lays in all new Foresters...
Time for an action I guess! I've been patient for 2.5 months of abuse, now it's time to do something about it. The problem is, what can a poor customer do? Withold payments? Take them to small court? At any rate, they'll be probably promising to fix everything "next week", and I'll remain Foresterless for next few months.
Any suggestions? Ideally, I'd like to take the car to another shop and ask them to fix everything the first shop did not or butched. Now it's a matter of getting insurance to cover it. Any better ideas?
Drew is correct. Automatic linking isn't possible. And if it was, it could get very messy with duplicate discussions and those that are deleted, etc. So, you'll have to rely on little ole me to keep it updated. I'll take a swing through the TH this week and find the comparison discussions.
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I hate to say "I told you so" but way back when they said that the parts had to come from that particular dealer I would have bailed on that shop! I'd get on your insurance company and start calling the BBB, the state attorney's office, and anyone else who would listen! It's ridiculous that you should have to put up with crappola like that!
-mike
Also ask to speak to the body shop's manager, and let him know how poor their work has been - show him, even. If you have a digital camera, take pitures and show him what the "after" has to look like to be acceptable.
Or demand a different body shop. The work sounds just awful sloppy.
I'm real sorry you have to put up with this. Gosh, I hope the shop that fixes my Miata knows what they're doing (at least there is only cosmetic damage). Fingers are crossed.
-juice
I've been kind of interested in the Legacy GT Wagon and asked if they had any 5-speeds around. Lo and behold, there was a white, 2001 5-speed right outside the door! Santa Cruz Subaru is one of those cool dealers that just hand you the keys and tell you to have fun.
Here are my impressions coming from a 98 Forester S 5-speed owner:
- Interior fit and finish was very nice. Much more upscale than the Forester.
- Shifter has nice short throws. Much more smoother and precise than my Forester.
- Clutch felt good. Less travel and smoother takeup.
- Better sound insulation was apparent. Noticeably quieter on the freeway.
- Less body roll (no duh), but the vehicle did feel less "tossable" probably due to the longer wheelbase.
- Suspension had the classic firm but not harsh feel of Subarus. Although it did roll less than the Forester, it felt as though the GT had a softer spring set up.
- Engine felt "adequate". I did wish there was more torque especially when accelerating from a stop. Once at freeway speeds, the power was fine.
Hmmm. All this for 22K. Not a bad deal at all. For kicks, I asked how much my Forester would trade in for: 15K with 50K miles on it.
Should I do it? Well, with the "rumor" that a 2.5turbo may be headed this way, I just may wait a bit longer.
Ken
Cheers Pat.
Maybe it's the incremental improvements, which over the years adds up.
-juice
Thanks!
If you have a good relationship with your dealer, they may do it for you anyway (especially if you have the Subaru extended warranty). It's worth asking, since your mileage is so low.
-juice
Patti
Patti
Patti -- Welcome back! Don't know if you read my post on the General Maintenance forum, but my meeting that Dene set up for me at Santa Cruz Subaru went very well. Thanks a million for your help!
Ken
Patti
Patti