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  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    juice-
    Would want to test drive a GT too, but like the AT WRX, it is rarely found for a test drive.

    Dennis-
    WRX first and GT-B later, yup, thinking along that line is in consideration.

    Ross-
    I'm leaning towards the WRX like a cart with wheels smaller than its other side.

    If the VDC does not come with sun/moon roof, it would have been in my garage now.

    -Dave
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    What about the rumors of the H6 in the base outback? That might work for you dave?

    -mike
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    It would mike but I'm showing symptoms of subie-less withdrawal. ;-)

    -Dave
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Disease: Subaru withdrawal

    Symptoms: hot flashes, cold sweats, itchy/watery eyes. Slipping and sliding all over the road. People stop calling you "Dave". Your Macintosh crashes for the first time ever. Your dog rejects you. Your alma mater rescinds your post-graduate degree.

    ;-)

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    I saw my first one when we had a Pennsylvania Backroad Drive. We were stopped at a light and one comes turning through the intersection.

    The guy was fighting trying to turn it while he drank a cup of coffee.

    -Dennis
  • storytellerstoryteller Member Posts: 476
    Has anyone else noted something really bizarre about Edmunds' Web-X lately? It's been working!!!

    Steve
  • storytellerstoryteller Member Posts: 476
    Patti: if you see this, I'm going to be on the road for several days and unable to post. I'll be one of many crew members thinking of you Monday. Best luck.

    Steve
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    SHHHH! You trying to jinx us??? ;-)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They added grilled turbot to the gerbil menu. :-)

    -juice
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,399
    Macintosh crashes for the first time????? Just plugged it in 2.2 seconds ago???

    I can ask this as I'm on my 4th home Mac since 1985!

    Jim
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Things just aren't right in the world when a Dave doesn't have his Subaru. ;-)

    We found the wings for the Tinkerbell costume. Also was able to locate a referee jersey, so should be all set.

    -juice
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    my monitor looks like it's going any time now. :D

    -Dave
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Jim- I'm on my 4th home Mac since 1985

    Is there even such a thing as a work Mac? ;-)

    -Frank P.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    It's the industry standard in advertising and graphic design. Well over 90% of all graphic design is done on the MAC platform.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Til I started selling PCs and no one in the business world uses em :( Bob is right, 90% or better of the graphics work stations are all Macs. I equate macs to high-end cars, MB/BMW of cars, you pay through the nose for em, but everything that they say is compatible is and it's all quality. :)

    -mike
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Yes Bob, but besides graphic designers and writers, name another industry that uses Macs? Microsoft doesn't control over 90% of the market for nothing.

    -Frank P.
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    You may enjoy the following link:


    http://www.raytracer25.btinternet.co.uk/itoilet.html


    It was given to me by a friend who is president of the local Mac user's club.


    Ross

  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,399
    I guess none of you have ever had a PC freeze-up on you? Or the "Microsoft Word has unexpectedly quit..." losing everything you're done since the last save on your PC?

    Frank, Microsoft also has a significant portion of the Mac market too with MS Word, Excel, and Powerpoint.

    iToilet - So this is where all my tech stocks are!

    Jim
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    I took a 3D surface (NURBS) modeling class last week since I use it for work every now and then. At the class there were quite a few designers from all sorts of industries (architecture to motorcycles) and I was suprised to learn that Macs are hardly used in this field! Given the heavy graphics use of Macs, I thought it was a given, but apparently PCs are the tool of choice.

    Interestingly, the instructor was one of the SW developers and he told me that it would be extremely difficult to port the functionality over to a Mac due to the one-button mouse limitation.

    Ken
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Funny, I've been using a 2 button mouse on my Mac for years. There are over 50 3D modeling programs for the Mac many of which use NURBS including Maya. As for a work Mac, I have made my living off of a Mac for the last 10 years.

    bit
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Here at work it's 98% PC, 2% Mac. Funny thing is, all the high-end stuff, like graphic workstations, web servers, etc., are Macs.

    We have that video program and filmed last year's Halloween, where we were a French Canadian film troupe. Of course it was edited on a Mac.

    My referee idea was overruled. I'll share some pics, we're still working on our concept, but it involves ambulance-chasing lawyers. ;-)

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    bit,

    I should clarify that the functionality the instructor was refering to was for Rhinoceros. The SW makes extensive use of the scroll wheel (zooming) and the right button for quick pull down menus. He mentioned that this feature would be difficult to port over to a Mac. I didn't know that Macs have a two-button mouse option.

    In any event, it was really wierd to hear so many people laughing at Macs especially in a graphics-extensive environment.

    BTW, I'm PC-Mac neutral. Whatever it takes to get the job done is fine by me. :-)

    Ken
  • dudedude Member Posts: 123
    Actually high web servers and workstations and SGI utilize SunOS which have Linix/Unix as their OS. However, I do believe that Mac platform is based on Linix too.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    you pick up a brochure, catalogue, magazine, or book; look at a poster, read an ad, or purchase packaging of any sort from software to cereal boxes; it most likely was designed on a MAC. Also, a lot of music I believe is created with MAC equipment. Loosh would be better able to comment on that, since he is a musician, and has a MAC.

    The "Evil Empire" may control most of the real-business world, but it is a virtual non-entity in the creative-business world.

    The biggest problem I have with MACs, is when I have to go cross-platform; that is create something on the MAC, then do a "save as" so it can work on the Windoze platform. Every time I've had to do that it's been a nightmare. Compatibility problems, font problems, figuring out what format is needed—I HATE IT!

    Bob
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    Juice: Where do you rent the ambulance?

    tee hee

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • hayduke01hayduke01 Member Posts: 128
    My first computer was a 1985 Mac, then state of the art. 512k RAM, and two floppy drives, one external.

    It took the PC world quite a few years to catch up to what the Mac could do then, but I have to confess to being part of the PC crowd now. Think the switch was mostly due to availability of legal applications, though most of what I use now is just mainstream off-the-shelf stuff like Office anyway.

    When I have my periodic technical difficulties I consider going back to Macs, but never really seriously considered it. Guess that's inertia, too much invested in the existing PCs, peripherals and hardware. Though that probably makes about as much sense as saying, "I have $20,000.00 purchase price, plus another $2500.00 invested in my Ford, so I can't really consider switching to Subaru."

    On the ambulance rental, I think that all the lawyers on the board get 1/3 of the cost. :)
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,399
    At least switching from Ford to Subaru entails very little learning curve and almost no compatibility issues. 8~)

    Jim

    Wadda mean my old Ford mags won't fit the Subie!?
  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    Here are some other mac dominated areas in addition to desktop publishing, graphic arts, and music: video--hollywood movies are being edited with Final Cut Pro lately. Special effects added to the enhanced Star Wars series were done with Macs. All of the sound editing on "Attack of the clones" was done on a Mac. Science--there are new state of the art genetics programs that a leading genetics research house is using which have been written to take advantage of Mac OS-x's UNIX basis. Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore labs are leading users of Macs for weapons research. The VLA radio telescope uses some macs (got a tour of the control room once) I have 20 macs in my science classroom as does another of the teachers in my department.

    If you are using a PC you should look at a mac running the new OS-X operating system. If you are a Linux/Unix fan you can use it to operate in that environment. If not you will find it easy to learn, virtualy virus free and practically impossible to lock up. OS-X boots up with a blue screen that we mac lovers refer to as the "blue screen of life" Try iPhoto, iMovie and iTunes to see how easy it is to work with all forms of music, pictures and video. If you buy Microsoft Office version x then any office doc created on a pc can be read and opened on a mac. here is the real difference: Microsoft is just putting out there first WiFi software and hardware (they have already found bugs in both) while I am writing this on my Airport enabled iBook which I have had wirelessly on my local net/ internet connection for the last 3 years.

    Sorry, preaching again

    TWRX (Apple logo sticker in left rear quarter window of wrx wagon.)
  • sibbaldsibbald Member Posts: 106
    I should research some computer sites to become more computer literate. But wait, my strong interest in cars, and yes SUBARU'S may be the answer. Townhall rules! ;-)

    Anyway you guys, it is fun and interesting. Have a great Halloween which is definitely not celebrated with the same intensity in Canada.

    BTW, I will be arriving in Kauai HI on the 31st and look forward to experiencing some serious gaity.

    Cheers,

    Tom, (my winter starts 24 days from now) :-)
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,399
    Tom, I'd say your winter has been postponed...
    I guess the only white you'll see is white sand beaches.

    Enjoy!
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    Yeah, yeah, yeah ... and you still have Beta video machines (and 8-tracks, too ....)
    ok .. I couldn't resist. I learned on an Apple 2e at a friend's house that I needed a computer, but everywhere I USED a computer outside a house it was a PC ....soooo when I first bought it was IBM-compatible ..
    My current job is in a school that has just BEGUN to make the switch from MAC to PC... so one campus has a Gateway on my desk, and one a MAC ... talk about compatibility problems to share stuff ... (I send it to myself email .. lol)
    The 'up' side is that I talked the special ed services office into lending me a laptop to use so I have my important stuff all on one computer!
    Brenda
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    There is almost no software available for the Macs that is another issue altogether along with the price. They are crazy expensive compared to an equivilent PC based machine.

    -mike
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Well we just finished recording an album on our G4 running ProTools LE 5.1. We recorded the Irish music record last year on the same system. The inherent elegance in the Mac OS means more free memory to run the complex array of plug-ins needed for such an endeavor, with a lot less crashing. As long as we save every so often, this massive program runs all day without a hitch. Of course if we were a pro studio, we would have a dual-processor G4 ($2000) and full-blown ProTools (~$8,000). Oh yea, a Neumann U87 or 2 ($4000 each) and a couple high end mic-pre's like Drawmer or Summit or Avalon (~$2500 each)

    that's life!
  • jay_24jay_24 Member Posts: 536
    I've used both. The MACs we had at work, crashed often and were slower than any PC we. PCs might not be better but at least I have a choice where to buy them and peripherals to add/replace.

    Also MACs might do the brochures...PCs and Unix design the cars, including the subaru. Subaru is about the only car manufacturer I don't know what software they use. All the others are using PC/Unix based software. (UG, I-Deas, CATIA ect...) MAC not supported.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We tried to set up a video editing workstation on a PC platform, and even after more than $10 grand investment, and a real nasty daisy chain of SCSI devices, it never really worked right.

    One little iBook does it all better for about 1/4 the price.

    For mainstream stuff, a PC is cheap and support is plentiful, but as soon as you go high end, fuggedaboutit.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    For mainstream stuff, a PC is cheap and support is plentiful, but as soon as you go high end, fuggedaboutit.

    For the average user the $300 PC is better bang for it's buck than a Mac. Kinda like comparing a WRX (great bang for the buck) to a Skyline or other Exotic car! :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We spend more like $1200 on a name-brand desktop fully equipped, but yeah, that's still cheaper than a Mac would be.

    But we've learned, for high-end stuff we head straight to a Mac.

    -juice
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Juice- In case you're interested, for our high end applications we use UNIX boxes running Solaris. You want to talk about expensive, a typical Sun workstation costs almost 10 times the going rate for a high end PC.

    -Frank P.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Nowadays I'm doing basic PC workstation support, which is fine with me.

    Now if only I could cure "PC Magazine syndrome", you know, the boss reads an article and comes back and wants wireless voice-activated video conferencing on his cell phone!

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    All the others are using PC/Unix based software. (UG, I-Deas, CATIA ect...) MAC not supported.

    That's what I heard at the training class, but then again, I'm a complete novice in this industry.

    I also started out on Apple computers. During high school, I owned an Apple //e and later moved on to a Mac SE in college. At my first job, I was able to influence the choice of computers so I naturally had our manager buy Powerbooks (the original!) and some Macs. However, our company decided to standardize on PCs and eventually our Macs were phased out.

    No doubt that the Mac is technically superior, but as paisan mentioned, most people in general business only need to use the standard MS Office suite -- something that runs fine on PCs.

    Lots of similar examples in other industries where a technologically superior product is edged out due to a marketing or business strategy. Betamax, as ladywclass mentioned, is one. Any others?

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Diesel vs. gasoline is arguably another.

    Subaru vs. Honda? ;-)

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Let's not open that can o' worms. ;-)

    Don't worry, you can always move to the Philippines to buy a new Jackaroo! Diesel, no less.

    -juice
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    A little late, but:
    To Pat and Colin feel better. Patti best wishes for you on the 4th. That will be my Bday wish on the 3rd.

    PC vs Mac: In the finacail industry all of the trading software I see being developed is for the PC- I guess it's easiest to stick with the one platform that everyone else uses. Some of the systems are on Sun/Linux systems, but only the fancy stuff.

    Paisan- Flemington had a SVX for sale. I think they said it was the LXI model, not sure what year or what they wanted for it. Ever since you got yours, I've been seeing them all over, including a coulle on SI.
    Mark
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    You haven't seen mine yet!

    -mike
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    What type of Irish music are you into? what artists? being an Irish tenor I do a bit of singing myself, # Irish tenors come to mind ,also Paddy Reilly, D. O'Donnell, Johnny Mc Evoy,there are a host of others I could on for a long time.

    Cheers Pat.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    It's been a busy couple of days here getting the Titan ready for winter, took out the interior and covered the floor wirh plastic sheet It's a lot of work but worth it when you do not have to worry about a soggy interior.

    Then it was change to winter wheels, then wash and wax, Last thing to do is take it and have it oil srayed underneath, (needs all the help it can get to prevent rust in the frozen north) especially when tons of salt are dumped daily over the course of the winter.

    I know that subies are winter cars, but the thought of my beatiful car covered in salt for 5 or 6 months of the year definitely does not turn my crank, ( sometimes being too fussy sucks)

    Cheers Pat.
  • lonewulf70lonewulf70 Member Posts: 7
    HI!
    i just recently placed a factory order for a TS automatic wagon with the following options

    armrest extension
    fog lamps
    rear bumper cover
    rear diff cover
    rear spoiler
    front end cover (le bra look-a-like)
    keyless entry
    security system
    popular group 1 which is
    (cross bars)
    (carpeted floor covers)
    (splash guards)
    (tailpipe cover)
    popular group 5 which is
    (cargo bin)
    (cargo tray)
    (rubber mats)
    premium sound 3 which is
    (upgraded speakers, subwoofer, tweeters, 6 disc cd changer and cassette/radio)

    when i was looking at the various forums on here, i saw plenty of legacy L wagons for 18k approx ....
    now, i paid 19816.... plus taxes
    did i get taken??
    can someone help here?
    this is my first subaru and plan on changing out the stock wheels and tires for 16" rims and dunno tires :)

    did i make a big money mistake??

    lonewulf70
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Figured I would wait till the last regular posting day to wish you all the best. Go out and enjoy this weekend - catch a movie, eat well, have your husband take you for a good 'Fall Foliage' ride, etc.

    See you in a week or so on the "other side" of this mess....

    Steve
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