Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy · April 2019

nyccarguy said:
Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

they had a Golf sport wagon (really like those) for $309 S&D. Interesting.

ab348 · April 2019

Easy for us to forget that the remains of the British auto industry was still punching out original style Minis and A-series engines into the '90s.

graphicguy · April 2019

pensfan83 said:
I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.

Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

pensfan83 · April 2019

nyccarguy said:
Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

The offer here is $339 w/$2,499 down on a GLI S w/Automatic. I have time to wait for more discount.

stickguy · April 2019

graphicguy said:

pensfan83 said:
I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.
Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

I’ll get a better handle after this weekend, but so far, that’s about what I’m seeing. Without the V6 or AWD. maybe mixed is a little higher because my local, is really short hop.

Elantra had me spoiled. Closer to 30/38 on that, and a few highway runs over 40.

fintail · April 2019

I can't wait for my first road trip in the new car in a few weeks. The Bluetec could pull 42-45 on the route, I suspect the wagon will be in the upper 20s, maybe 30 if lucky - which I suppose isn't bad for a 362hp V6 with AWD and something like 4300 lbs. Lately, my driving is all commuting grind and suburban arterials, where anything over 20 is good.

pensfan83 · April 2019

graphicguy said:

pensfan83 said:
I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.
Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

That's pretty good.

The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.

nyccarguy · April 2019

pensfan83 said:

nyccarguy said:
Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

The offer here is $339 w/$2,499 down on a GLI S w/Automatic. I have time to wait for more discount.

That's our offer too. I'm just saying it is going to only go down from here.

nyccarguy · April 2019

pensfan83 said:

graphicguy said:

pensfan83 said:
I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.
Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

That's pretty good.

The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.

The Prelude is by far the most efficient vehicle in our fleet.

pensfan83 · April 2019

nyccarguy said:

pensfan83 said:

graphicguy said:

pensfan83 said:
I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.
Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

That's pretty good.

The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.
The Prelude is by far the most efficient vehicle in our fleet.

Laying off the throttle a bit would probably have pushed that number higher still but what fun is that?

stickguy · April 2019

Those advertised lease deals I thought are always higher than what some willing to work at should get. But a nice starting point!

jpp75 · April 2019

pensfan83 said:

That's pretty good.

The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.

That's about what I get in the C30, the most recent tank was around 28 MPG, with exactly the same type of driving.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

GROAN......Calif. gas prices are spiking due to "refinery disruptions"---just in time for summer travel! They are punching through $4/gallon right now and might spike at around $4.15, say the petrol experts. CA requires a different blend of gasoline than most of you lucky ones are burning out there in the heartland.

stickguy · April 2019

Going up daily it seems in jersey too. I’m not pleased.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

Huh.

nyccarguy · April 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:
GROAN......Calif. gas prices are spiking due to "refinery disruptions"---just in time for summer travel! They are punching through $4/gallon right now and might spike at around $4.15, say the petrol experts. CA requires a different blend of gasoline than most of you lucky ones are burning out there in the heartland.

Friend of mine is on vacation in Newport Beach. He sent me a pic of the sign in front of the gas station:

$4.49 (87)
$4.59 (89)
$4.69 (91)
$4.59 (D)

fintail · April 2019

Someone just changed from diesel to PUG, did anyone think prices wouldn't go up? I am waiting for that time when the cash discount at my local Chevron is finally exceeded by the 4% credit card reward.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

Unless you generate your own electricity, I don't think EV buyers are going to outsmart energy companies. You're playing poker with a monopoly.

tifighter · April 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:
kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

Huh.

I could go 100 miles on 24 kWh with my old Leaf, so I'd say that number is pretty pessimistic.

au1994 · April 2019

I’m averaging 31 in mixed driving in the Crosstrek. Roof rack has been off for a while now but will be going back on this weekend for a trip to the lake.

Glad it runs on regular as prices are creeping upward here in Atlanta too.

suydam · April 2019

tifighter said:

Mr_Shiftright said:
kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

Huh.

I could go 100 miles on 24 kWh with my old Leaf, so I'd say that number is pretty pessimistic.

Also, there are many free charging stations. And it costs me less than $100 PER YEAR to charge at home.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

tifighter said:

Mr_Shiftright said:
kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

Huh.

I could go 100 miles on 24 kWh with my old Leaf, so I'd say that number is pretty pessimistic.

I was just going by what an EV website posted. Maybe they were using hwy driving? But if it were 24 kW hours, then the Leaf would cost about $1,80 less per 100 miles to drive. So $180 bucks a year savings.

nyccarguy · April 2019

Any of you guys use (or know someone who uses) F11 Topcoat? Just curious. I've got a shelf & a half full of Griot's stuff that I swear by.

breld · April 2019

Wife and I were behind this over our lunch hour. She LOVED it!

au1994 · April 2019

breld said:
Wife and I were behind this over our lunch hour. She LOVED it!

Yummy

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

They're getting valuable, but not like the Turbo coupe.

henryn · April 2019

nyccarguy said:
Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

$2,999 due at signing here. And, in Texas, 6.25% on the entire purchase price ($30k ? ) so another $1,875. So you're now looking at around $465 for a sign-and-drive. Not tempting.

stickguy · April 2019

I would not lease in a full tax state. Unless there was a huge boatload of lease cash not available on a purchase.

28firefighter · April 2019

I suspect this will be a car you buy, not lease - much like the GTI.

Michaell · April 2019

stickguy said:
I would not lease in a full tax state. Unless there was a huge boatload of lease cash not available on a purchase.

Or you get tax credits, knocking the rate down from 6.25% to 1.25%

au1994 · April 2019

I’ve noticed a few more Rangers on the road lately so I perused a local dealers site.

XLT 4WD Ranger ~40k
XLT 4WD F-150 ~37k after discounts and rebates. Of course you could do a bit better on the Ranger if you sat down at the table. I ran into the same thing years ago when I got a Ram. With incentives it turned out to be cheaper than the Dakota 4 door I originally was interested in.

corvette · April 2019

You really have to have a strong preference for the smaller size in order for the premium for a midsize to be worth it. Generally, the full size is going to be the flagship model and should offer better features (e.g., GM couldn't figure out how to do keyless ignition on the latest Colorado/Canyon, but it's been available on the full size models for a while).

marcogallo1986 · April 2019

Crazy all on the gas prices! Agreed. All

marcogallo1986 · April 2019

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

mjfloyd1 · April 2019

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

BMW 2002tii sedan

kyfdx · April 2019

Double click for a better look

cdnpinhead · April 2019

Sadly with rectangular tail lights and the gunga-din bumpers.

kyfdx · April 2019

One for @fintail

ab348 · April 2019

A first-gen MR2, I loved mine in the ‘80s.

breld · April 2019

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti. It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.

roadburner · April 2019

breld said:

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti. It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.

Amazon Green.

fintail · April 2019

Even a ~2004 E wagon still has some class.

mjfloyd1 · April 2019

ab348 said:

A first-gen MR2, I loved mine in the ‘80s.

Every time I see MR2, I say MR not.

breld · April 2019

roadburner said:

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti. It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.
Amazon Green.

Figured you could provide any necessary clarifications!

tjc78 · April 2019

fintail said:

Even a ~2004 E wagon still has some class.

Saw one of the same vintage yesterday. It was a 500 noted by both badging and vanity plate. It was also a color I’ve never seen before on that era of car. A very bronze-ish/medium brown over tan. It was showroom new.

kyfdx · April 2019

roadburner said:

breld said:

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti. It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.

Amazon Green.

Isn't that a Tii?

marcogallo1986 · April 2019

Thank you Floyd one, and grill, and fruit burger for the description on what the car was. Sounds nice, enjoy your day guys going to go to a job fair in a little while, then tomorrow and Friday going to visit grandma and my cousins, and also going to the New York auto show Friday to Sorry the voice dictation screwed up your names big time over here like always ha ha Ha. It makes me laugh.

breld · April 2019

kyfdx said:

roadburner said:

breld said:

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld. What is that you and the wife saw at lunch today?

Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti. It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.
Amazon Green.

Isn't that a Tii?

I was gonna ask about that - what is a "Tii"?

au1994 · April 2019

Designates it to be fuel injected I believe

stickguy · April 2019

Yup

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