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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,839
    nyccarguy said:

    Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

    https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

    they had a Golf sport wagon (really like those) for $309 S&D. Interesting.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,482
    Easy for us to forget that the remains of the British auto industry was still punching out original style Minis and A-series engines into the '90s.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,196
    pensfan83 said:

    I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.

    Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

    Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

    I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    nyccarguy said:

    Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

    https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

    The offer here is $339 w/$2,499 down on a GLI S w/Automatic. I have time to wait for more discount.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,839
    graphicguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.

    Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

    Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

    I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

    I’ll get a better handle after this weekend, but so far, that’s about what I’m seeing. Without the V6 or AWD. maybe mixed is a little higher because my local, is really short hop.

    Elantra had me spoiled. Closer to 30/38 on that, and a few highway runs over 40.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,656
    I can't wait for my first road trip in the new car in a few weeks. The Bluetec could pull 42-45 on the route, I suspect the wagon will be in the upper 20s, maybe 30 if lucky - which I suppose isn't bad for a 362hp V6 with AWD and something like 4300 lbs. Lately, my driving is all commuting grind and suburban arterials, where anything over 20 is good.

  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    graphicguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.

    Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

    Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

    I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

    That's pretty good.

    The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,635
    pensfan83 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

    https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/

    The offer here is $339 w/$2,499 down on a GLI S w/Automatic. I have time to wait for more discount.
    That's our offer too. I'm just saying it is going to only go down from here.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,635
    pensfan83 said:

    graphicguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.

    Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

    Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

    I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

    That's pretty good.

    The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.
    The Prelude is by far the most efficient vehicle in our fleet.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    nyccarguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    graphicguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    I've averaged 27-29 MPG, depending on terrain and speed, and that's with 4 people and luggage. I think mid 30's is attainable.

    Have done several road trips in my TLX. I get around 33-34 MPG, depending on terrain....usually with the cruise set somewhere between 70-75 MPH.

    Around town, I get about 22 MPG.....mixed I’m getting 23-24 MPG.

    I’ve used nothing but Costco PUG in it, too.

    That's pretty good.

    The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.
    The Prelude is by far the most efficient vehicle in our fleet.
    Laying off the throttle a bit would probably have pushed that number higher still but what fun is that?
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,839
    Those advertised lease deals I thought are always higher than what some willing to work at should get. But a nice starting point!

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  • jpp75jpp75 Member Posts: 1,535
    pensfan83 said:


    That's pretty good.

    The most recent tank on the Prelude I calculated at 27 MPG. That's with both city and highway driving with some stretches where the driving was, ahem...a bit spirited.

    That's about what I get in the C30, the most recent tank was around 28 MPG, with exactly the same type of driving. :smile:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    GROAN......Calif. gas prices are spiking due to "refinery disruptions"---just in time for summer travel! They are punching through $4/gallon right now and might spike at around $4.15, say the petrol experts. CA requires a different blend of gasoline than most of you lucky ones are burning out there in the heartland.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,839
    Going up daily it seems in jersey too. I’m not pleased.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

    Huh.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,635
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    GROAN......Calif. gas prices are spiking due to "refinery disruptions"---just in time for summer travel! They are punching through $4/gallon right now and might spike at around $4.15, say the petrol experts. CA requires a different blend of gasoline than most of you lucky ones are burning out there in the heartland.

    Friend of mine is on vacation in Newport Beach. He sent me a pic of the sign in front of the gas station:

    $4.49 (87)
    $4.59 (89)
    $4.69 (91)
    $4.59 (D)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,656
    Someone just changed from diesel to PUG, did anyone think prices wouldn't go up? I am waiting for that time when the cash discount at my local Chevron is finally exceeded by the 4% credit card reward.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Unless you generate your own electricity, I don't think EV buyers are going to outsmart energy companies. You're playing poker with a monopoly.
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,813
    edited April 2019
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

    Huh.

    I could go 100 miles on 24 kWh with my old Leaf, so I'd say that number is pretty pessimistic.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,743
    I’m averaging 31 in mixed driving in the Crosstrek. Roof rack has been off for a while now but will be going back on this weekend for a trip to the lake.

    Glad it runs on regular as prices are creeping upward here in Atlanta too.

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,155
    tifighter said:

    Mr_Shiftright said:

    kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

    Huh.

    I could go 100 miles on 24 kWh with my old Leaf, so I'd say that number is pretty pessimistic.
    Also, there are many free charging stations. And it costs me less than $100 PER YEAR to charge at home.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited April 2019
    tifighter said:

    Mr_Shiftright said:

    kW hour price is going up, too. It's still cheaper to run an EV in California than a 30 mpg car, or any pure ICE car, but if you match an EV with a hybrid Honda Insight, it's pretty much a draw. In fact, using the formula of 34 kW hours to go 100 miles in a Nissan Leaf, then the Honda Insight might even be a bit cheaper to run.

    Huh.

    I could go 100 miles on 24 kWh with my old Leaf, so I'd say that number is pretty pessimistic.
    I was just going by what an EV website posted. Maybe they were using hwy driving? But if it were 24 kW hours, then the Leaf would cost about $1,80 less per 100 miles to drive. So $180 bucks a year savings.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,635
    Any of you guys use (or know someone who uses) F11 Topcoat? Just curious. I've got a shelf & a half full of Griot's stuff that I swear by.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,960
    Wife and I were behind this over our lunch hour.  She LOVED it!


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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,743
    breld said:

    Wife and I were behind this over our lunch hour.  She LOVED it!


    Yummy

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    They're getting valuable, but not like the Turbo coupe.
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    nyccarguy said:

    Looks like we'll be at $299/month soon enough. Be patient young Jedi.

    https://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/LEASE/



    $2,999 due at signing here. And, in Texas, 6.25% on the entire purchase price ($30k ? ) so another $1,875. So you're now looking at around $465 for a sign-and-drive. Not tempting.


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,839
    I would not lease in a full tax state. Unless there was a huge boatload of lease cash not available on a purchase.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,877
    I suspect this will be a car you buy, not lease - much like the GTI.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,302
    stickguy said:

    I would not lease in a full tax state. Unless there was a huge boatload of lease cash not available on a purchase.

    Or you get tax credits, knocking the rate down from 6.25% to 1.25%

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,743
    I’ve noticed a few more Rangers on the road lately so I perused a local dealers site.

    XLT 4WD Ranger ~40k
    XLT 4WD F-150 ~37k after discounts and rebates. Of course you could do a bit better on the Ranger if you sat down at the table. I ran into the same thing years ago when I got a Ram. With incentives it turned out to be cheaper than the Dakota 4 door I originally was interested in.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,509
    You really have to have a strong preference for the smaller size in order for the premium for a midsize to be worth it. Generally, the full size is going to be the flagship model and should offer better features (e.g., GM couldn't figure out how to do keyless ignition on the latest Colorado/Canyon, but it's been available on the full size models for a while).
  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Member Posts: 1,164
    Crazy all on the gas prices! Agreed. All 
  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Member Posts: 1,164
    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    marcogallo1986 said:
    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 
    BMW 2002tii sedan
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,322

    Double click for a better look

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,630
    edited April 2019
    Sadly with rectangular tail lights and the gunga-din bumpers.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,322

    One for @fintail

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,482
    A first-gen MR2, I loved mine in the ‘80s.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,960
    marcogallo1986 said:
    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 
    Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti.  It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.  

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,493
    breld said:


    marcogallo1986 said:

    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 

    Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti.  It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.  

    Amazon Green.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,656
    Even a ~2004 E wagon still has some class.
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    ab348 said:
    A first-gen MR2, I loved mine in the ‘80s.
    Every time I see MR2, I say MR not. 
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,960
    roadburner said:
    marcogallo1986 said:
    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 
    Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti.  It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.  
    Amazon Green.
    Figured you could provide any necessary clarifications!

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,253
    edited April 2019
    fintail said:
    Even a ~2004 E wagon still has some class.
    Saw one of the same vintage yesterday. It was a 500 noted by both badging and vanity plate.  It was also a color I’ve never seen before on that era of car.   A very bronze-ish/medium brown over tan. It was showroom new.  

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,322
    roadburner said:

    breld said:


    marcogallo1986 said:

    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 

    Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti.  It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.  
    Amazon Green.

    Isn't that a Tii?

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  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Member Posts: 1,164
     Thank you Floyd one, and grill, and fruit burger for the description on what the car was. Sounds nice, enjoy your day guys going to go to a job fair in a little while, then tomorrow and Friday going to visit grandma and my cousins, and also going to the New York auto show Friday to   Sorry the voice dictation screwed up your names big time over here like always ha ha Ha. It makes me laugh. 
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,960
    kyfdx said:

    roadburner said:

    breld said:


    marcogallo1986 said:

    Breld. What is that you and the wife  saw at lunch today? 

    Marco - like @mjfloyd1 said, it was a classic BMW 2002ti.  It was well restored and in a strangely attractive British racing green.  
    Amazon Green.
    Isn't that a Tii?

    I was gonna ask about that - what is a "Tii"?

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,743
    Designates it to be fuel injected I believe

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,839
    Yup

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