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oldfarmer50 · May 2019

graphicguy said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

explorerx4 said:

@abacomike,
We are going to visit one of the kids next weekend and will be checking out some houses while we are there.

At first you can’t wait until the kids move out on their own - but there comes a time when you want them back - close to you. Having her close - 20-25 minute drive away would be great!
I hope it all works out for you Mike even though that will just about kill any chance of you sending me airfare money to come visit you. Then again, you could still send the airfare money and put me up in a nice swanky hotel. Yeah, give that some thought.

jmonroe

I just paid for my daughter’s airfare to come down for her job interview - she couldn’t afford it on her salary. After all, what are Dads for?

As for jmonroe, not a chance.

@abacomike ....great news about your daughter. Just a quick note.....if a company won’t pick up the bill for your daughter’s interview, especially after a 2 hour phone interview, I might think twice about working for a company that is so “chintzy”!

I think Mike said the job is with a government agency. Bureaucracy typically doesn’t spring for stuff like that.

oldfarmer50 · May 2019

I don’t know exactly why but I find this commercial offensive.

https://youtu.be/7ZnWp9NDGcQ

I mean, who would move in with a guy not knowing he was into video games?

Are we expected to believe that she owned EVERYTHING in the house? Or is she stealing his stuff?

Maybe the obvious pandering and anti-male inference is what’s unsettling.

bwia · May 2019

Maximum Security was robbed. No? Nice headline yes, but bettors holding that 65-1 long-short winning ticket are not complaining.

Looking at the replays it was a tough call on whether the interference was egregious enough to disqualify the first place horse. Too much reliance on technology, as is now common in the auto industry, can be more of nuisance than a solution. Sorry maximum security your name is not as full proof as advertised.

driver100 · May 2019

oldfarmer50 said:
I don’t know exactly why but I find this commercial offensive.

I mean, who would move in with a guy not knowing he was into video games?
Are we expected to believe that she owned EVERYTHING in the house? Or is she stealing his stuff?
Maybe the obvious pandering and anti-male inference is what’s unsettling.

I'm not sure about offensive....but it is in very bad taste IMHO.
She seems "happy" to be leaving.....they were stupid to have got married if she didn't like his 12 year old mentality of playing video games, and why would that make me think I should get a Tiguan? Maybe it will solve all life's problems, maybe it will help resolve a bad marriage?

There is a rule about advertising....people tend to remember the products if it isn't normal. In the course I took they were advertising a fine Italian wine.....and a pretty blond lady was enjoying it using a straw. Apparently the fact she was Italian and blond, and using a straw to drink fine wine makes something click in the brain - this doesn't make sense, and so it has a better chance of leaving an imprint on your brain.

Remember....any publicity is better than no publicity...they hope you just remember the freedom and the happiness the product brings to your brain.

driver100 · May 2019

We are off to Madrid Spain until next Monday. Madrid Open Tennis match is on.
I'll try to see what they are driving in Spain and give you my impressions.
Just wanted to leave this heads up for the mighty fan base, as I might not be around too much. Get picked up at 3 p.m.

ruking1 · May 2019

driver100 said:
We are off to Madrid Spain until next Monday. Madrid Open Tennis match is on.
I'll try to see what they are driving in Spain and give you my impressions.
Just wanted to leave this heads up for the mighty fan base, as I might not be around too much. Get picked up at 3 p.m.

It will be interesting to hear about what they drive. Probably 50% of the fleet are diesels, no matter the brands.

ruking1 · May 2019

driver100 said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:

Of course mine sorta takes the edge off most of the others. So, you get no stars, dues reduction or time back for reading mine.
jmonroe
For reading yours, he should get the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Unless he’s military & probably posthumously (18%) for a REAL act of extreme valor, many military folks, etc., etc. would find that inappropriate to insulting.

btw....just for your own knowledge.....there is no such thing as a Congressional Medal of Honor.

The award is not called the Congressional Medal of Honor. Contrary to popular belief, the official title of the highest U.S. military distinction is simply the Medal of Honor, not the Congressional Medal of Honor. The confusion may have arisen because the president presents the award “in the name of Congress.”

I thought being in the military you would know that.
Would it be insulting to have said "A Nobel Peace Prize"?

I need to get a new high speed scroll button.

I do know its strictly speaking called the Medal of Honor. I didn’t want to explain it enough to further demonstrate someone else's ignorance . It was already done once. But here, if you insist on being nit picky, saying there is no such thing. Enjoy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor
http://www.mohannapolis.com/

I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!🏆

explorerx4 · May 2019

The Medal of Historical Society is called the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, so I think they nave become pretty much synonymous.
www.cmohs.org

ruking1 · May 2019

explorerx4 said:
The Medal of Historical Society is called the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, so I think they nave become pretty much synonymous.
www.cmohs.org

http://www.cmohs.org/

http://www.mohannapolis.com/

tjc78 · May 2019

Guys IMHO you are reading way far into the VW commercial.

She moved in.... realized dude cared for video games more than her... moved out. It was easy because of the generous cargo capacity of the Tiguan.

I found it quite amusing

ruking1 · May 2019

tjc78 said:
Guys IMHO you are reading way far into the VW commercial.

She moved in.... realized dude cared for video games more than her... moved out. It was easy because of the generous cargo capacity of the Tiguan.

I found it quite amusing

Indeed, it was an interesting sociological role reversal. 👸

driver100 · May 2019

"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!

🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!

ruking1 · May 2019

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!

So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀

driver100 · May 2019

tjc78 said:
Guys IMHO you are reading way far into the VW commercial.

She moved in.... realized dude cared for video games more than her... moved out. It was easy because of the generous cargo capacity of the Tiguan.

I found it quite amusing

Guess it could be seen that way. I still don't think it would convince most people to buy a Tiguan.

suydam · May 2019

All they hope is that you remember the name.

Michaell · May 2019

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀

You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

driver100 · May 2019

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

You guys definitely get my nomination..........you mean you actually have to read all this stuff? Or do alarm bells ring when certain words come up?

ruking1 · May 2019

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

Nor am I a Medal of Honor recipient!

I’d be fine with a $500M lottery receipt! 🤑(but I don’t play it)

I’d be fine with more patents!👍🤑

qbrozen · May 2019

speaking of bad commercials. I might have been interested in checking out the Blazer ... until I saw the commercial for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h157td3dMzk

ruking1 · May 2019

qbrozen said:
speaking of bad commercials. I might have been interested in checking out the Blazer ... until I saw the commercial for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h157td3dMzk

Many CUV’s are “me2”. The Chevrolet Blazer, back in the days... left a lot to be desired.

Michaell · May 2019

qbrozen said:
speaking of bad commercials. I might have been interested in checking out the Blazer ... until I saw the commercial for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h157td3dMzk

You notice they don't show the interior? There's a reason for that...

henryn · May 2019

On the Tiguan commercial, I actually saw that, and remembered it. And I see very few commercials thanks to the fast forward on my DVR. So yes, the commercial achieved it's purpose. And to whomever mentioned "bad marriage", the voice over distinctly said "moving in together is a big step". And that is not the same as getting married, no how, no way, not even close.

On the Medal of Honor, I think someone is showing a little too much of a "thin skin". My father served in WW2, my older brother spent 12 years in the army. While they would be impressed with anyone who actually did win that honor, they would not object to a little light humor around the subject.

ruking1 · May 2019

henryn said:
On the Tiguan commercial, I actually saw that, and remembered it. And I see very few commercials thanks to the fast forward on my DVR. So yes, the commercial achieved it's purpose. And to whomever mentioned "bad marriage", the voice over distinctly said "moving in together is a big step". And that is not the same as getting married, no how, no way, not even close.

On the Medal of Honor, I think someone is showing a little too much of a "thin skin". My father served in WW2, my older brother spent 12 years in the army. While they would be impressed with anyone who actually did win that honor, they would not object to a little light humor around the subject.

Para #2 The original poster posts “Congressional Medal of Honor”, and then turns right around in a reply post saying there’s no such thing as a ....”Congressional” Medal of Honor. Check it out. Did I find “Congressional Medal of Honor” inappropriate to insulting? Why?

It all depends what the PEOPLES think of ....congress. It also would depend what they think of the Medal of Honor. With congressional approval ratings of 15% or LESS, what is the majority opinion? If one asked 100 young people in the street New York City, most young folks would probably not know, let alone care.

https://youtu.be/Uo0KjdDJr1c

oldfarmer50 · May 2019

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

I didn’t know there was a Nobel Prize for hubris.

ab348 · May 2019

Michaell said:

You notice they don't show the interior? There's a reason for that...

I haven't sat in one but I did look at one on a dealer lot, and the interior actually looked good to me. And they did provide a quick shot of it in the ad.

ruking1 · May 2019

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

I didn’t know there was a Nobel Prize for hubris.

Id like to thank the academy! It was a LONG & circuitous path......(Yada,yada,yada)

ab348 · May 2019

tjc78 said:
Guys IMHO you are reading way far into the VW commercial.

She moved in.... realized dude cared for video games more than her... moved out. It was easy because of the generous cargo capacity of the Tiguan.

I found it quite amusing

Same here. Any time a dudebro who is more interested in VR gaming than a lovely young lady ends up getting his comeuppance as a result, it is a very satisfying scenario.

oldfarmer50 · May 2019

Here’s an interesting thing.

I just saw a Carvana commercial where they offered a free car valuation. I thought why not? So I started with my Mustang. Among the questions on mileage, condition etc. they asked if there were any modifications done to the car.

I’ve got a Borla exhaust and a Ford Performance Power Pack 2 installed. Fairly minor mods. When I got the results Carvana valued $1000 less with the modifications. Curious.

Do minor mods really devalue a car that much or do dealers figure if you do any enhancements you are probably racing the heck out of the car?

explorerx4 · May 2019

Oldfarmer50,
What did you think of the number you got, mods or no?

ruking1 · May 2019

I would say yes, to all of the above. I plead total ignorance to FPPP2. When one sells any car as one of “stock”, that is really the baseline. So modifications: to engine computer timing power ? and exhaust systems etc., can effect the definition of “stock”, ergo $ value. Carvana probably wants to appeal to many demographics as possible.

roadburner · May 2019

To me it depends on the quality and type of mods. My MS3 wasn't dinged for having an MS CAI. However, I passed on a rather nice Boss 302 because the two piece driveshaft had been replaced with a one piece and the OEM exhaust(which featured side exhausts with removable baffles) had also been dumped. Going in I knew it had a CAI, but that didn't bother me as it was a piece that it had received good reviews in the Mustang community.

ruking1 · May 2019

roadburner said:
To me it depends on the quality and type of mods. My MS3 wasn't dinged for having an MS CAI. However, I passed on a rather nice Boss 302 because the two piece driveshaft had been replaced with a one piece and the OEM exhaust(which featured side exhausts with removable baffles) had also been dumped. Going in I knew it had a CAI, but that didn't bother me as it was a piece that it had received good reviews in the Mustang community.

That’s a good point, ONE needs to sell to (a) WILLING buyer/s Again, I plead total ignorance to the MS 3 MS CAI., meaning of a two piece driveshaft, oem exhausts, etc.

henryn · May 2019

For late model cars, as in nearly new, any modification is looked on with a disparaging eye.

For a pickup truck, bed covers, side rails, weathertech floor liners, etc, are actually good, but will not add to the trade in value. The dealer wants that so they can remove the easily removed add on parts and use them on their own rides. If you know anyone who has actually worked around a dealership, you know this.

Now Carvana is not a dealership, per se, so I'm not sure how they would react to add-ons for a pickup, but I'm sure they would be negative on performance mods.

I used to know a guy who did car stereo installations. He was very good, many years experience, and he told me (more than once) that most of his work was removing aftermarket head units and replacing them with factory originals. To improve the trade in value. Now this was a few years back, that's probably not true any more. Fewer people are replacing the factory head unit with aftermarket, for a couple of reasons. Number one, the factory units are much better than they used to be. And number two, the factory units are integrated to the point where it is very difficult to replace them.

ruking1 · May 2019

henryn said:
For late model cars, as in nearly new, any modification is looked on with a disparaging eye.

For a pickup truck, bed covers, side rails, weathertech floor liners, etc, are actually good, but will not add to the trade in value. The dealer wants that so they can remove the easily removed add on parts and use them on their own rides. If you know anyone who has actually worked around a dealership, you know this.

Now Carvana is not a dealership, per se, so I'm not sure how they would react to add-ons for a pickup, but I'm sure they would be negative on performance mods.

I used to know a guy who did car stereo installations. He was very good, many years experience, and he told me (more than once) that most of his work was removing aftermarket head units and replacing them with factory originals. To improve the trade in value. Now this was a few years back, that's probably not true any more. Fewer people are replacing the factory head unit with aftermarket, for a couple of reasons. Number one, the factory units are much better than they used to be. And number two, the factory units are integrated to the point where it is very difficult to replace them.

Yes, in terms of sales/selling the monies would be better spent in getting good to sharp detailing and fixing non working OEM items.

oldfarmer50 · May 2019

explorerx4 said:
Oldfarmer50,
What did you think of the number you got, mods or no?

Not too bad. $23k with mods, $24k without. $8k depreciation after 4 years? Not bad.

oldfarmer50 · May 2019

ruking1 said:
I would say yes, to all of the above. I plead total ignorance to FPPP2. When one sells any car as one of “stock”, that is really the baseline. So modifications: to engine computer timing power ? and exhaust systems etc., can effect the definition of “stock”, ergo $ value. Carvana probably wants to appeal to many demographics as possible.

FPPP2 is a cold air intake and bigger throttle body off the GT350 with a minor computer tune. All right from the Ford factory engineers which maintains warranty. No weird stuff like blowers or ninja tunes. Pretty mild actually but still technically a mod.

ruking1 · May 2019

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:
Oldfarmer50,
What did you think of the number you got, mods or no?
Not too bad. $23k with mods, $24k without. $8k depreciation after 4 years? Not bad.

Will you put it on the market ?

explorerx4 · May 2019

@oldfarmer50,
Wow, that's pretty good.

ruking1 · May 2019

oldfarmer50 said:

ruking1 said:
I would say yes, to all of the above. I plead total ignorance to FPPP2. When one sells any car as one of “stock”, that is really the baseline. So modifications: to engine computer timing power ? and exhaust systems etc., can effect the definition of “stock”, ergo $ value. Carvana probably wants to appeal to many demographics as possible.
FPPP2 is a cold air intake and bigger throttle body off the GT350 with a minor computer tune. All right from the Ford factory engineers which maintains warranty. No weird stuff like blowers or ninja tunes. Pretty mild actually but still technically a mod.

Not that this really matters, but if one is not using the stock specified Ford/equivalent filter, more dirt (silicon) is being allowed in the engine. The comparison can be verified in the A/B UOA. (used oil analysis, more/less silicon in oil)

Short story: 385 hp/# ft. TO 400 hp/# ft. Same oem air filter.

Longer story. It was accomplished by a greater opening to snow prophylactic plastic intake. Again, oem air filter. One could use merely a demel tool to modify. One could buy the inexpensive cap. Or one could spend upwards of $500 for a “pretty” so called cold air intake product. I went through the issue on the 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06.

houdini2 · May 2019

ruking1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

I didn’t know there was a Nobel Prize for hubris.
Id like to thank the academy! It was a LONG & circuitous path......(Yada,yada,yada)

I'm standing here on the shoulders of all the little people who helped me along the way...

ruking1 · May 2019

houdini2 said:

ruking1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

I didn’t know there was a Nobel Prize for hubris.
Id like to thank the academy! It was a LONG & circuitous path......(Yada,yada,yada)

ruking1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:
"ruking1"
I really don’t know if it would have been insulting to have said: Nobel Peace Prize. However, I’m guessing NOT. But here’s hoping you get yours.!
🏆

This is getting silly..........whatever!
So I take it, you’re not in the running for a Nobel peace prize? 😱👀
You regulars probably aren't, but us mods could certainly be nominated for the work we do in this thread.

I didn’t know there was a Nobel Prize for hubris.
Id like to thank the academy! It was a LONG & circuitous path......(Yada,yada,yada)
I'm standing here on the shoulders of all the little people who helped me along the way...

Ain’t chutzpah a wonderful thing? 👍

Those underneath are probably hoping those standing on the shoulders, ain’t part of the 75% of the US population whom are... over weight.🤪

roadburner · May 2019

ruking1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ruking1 said:
I would say yes, to all of the above. I plead total ignorance to FPPP2. When one sells any car as one of “stock”, that is really the baseline. So modifications: to engine computer timing power ? and exhaust systems etc., can effect the definition of “stock”, ergo $ value. Carvana probably wants to appeal to many demographics as possible.
FPPP2 is a cold air intake and bigger throttle body off the GT350 with a minor computer tune. All right from the Ford factory engineers which maintains warranty. No weird stuff like blowers or ninja tunes. Pretty mild actually but still technically a mod.
Not that this really matters, but if one is not using the stock specified Ford/equivalent filter, more dirt (silicon) is being allowed in the engine. The comparison can be verified in the A/B UOA. (used oil analysis, more/less silicon in oil)

Short story: 385 hp/# ft. TO 400 hp/# ft. Same oem air filter.

Longer story. It was accomplished by a greater opening to snow prophylactic plastic intake. Again, oem air filter. One could use merely a demel tool to modify. One could buy the inexpensive cap. Or one could spend upwards of $500 for a “pretty” so called cold air intake product. I went through the issue on the 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06.

The Mazdaspeed intake used an AEM Dryflow filter- I never noticed any difference in UOA results after the installation. Mazda even stated that the installation would not affect the warranty.

cdnpinhead · May 2019

ruking1 said:
No, but getting out of the US military as an honorably discharged Vietnam era veteran, dropped me from consideration for a LOAD of jobs.

Interesting -- where I used to work you got ten points extra for being a vet. Of course if you were a black female vet with some sort of disability, you got the full boatload of extra points.

henryn · May 2019

I never heard of anyone getting passed over for a job due to having served in the US military. At least not as long as you were honorably discharged. I supposed it might have happened, but it would have probably been pretty d___ rare. And there are many jobs where veterans are given preference.

explorerx4 · May 2019

One of my old bosses told us a story of working at a client site on Xmas.
When questioned in a meeting about why we(vendor) and client's own people needed to work on the holiday, the response was "At first, there's a little crunchy sound with these things, but you get used to it".

ruking1 · May 2019

cdnpinhead said:

ruking1 said:
No, but getting out of the US military as an honorably discharged Vietnam era veteran, dropped me from consideration for a LOAD of jobs.
Interesting -- where I used to work you got ten points extra for being a vet. Of course if you were a black female vet with some sort of disability, you got the full boatload of extra points.

For the purposes of hiring, your guess was it was good at that time to be a black female vet with some sort of disability. Guilty/ N-A of none of the above. Federal government gave only 5 points “veterans preference” on examinations.

The seat of Federal government was, is, remains Washington D.C. CA states seat: Sacramento. Any other place for these two are OUTPOSTS.

Sandman6472 · May 2019

Just easier to get a better factory unit upfront to be honest. This is my first vehicle since the mid 1990's where I didn't replace the head unit/speakers/amp and am satisfied with the VW Fender unit. I tend to like my music with a little kick to be honest, probably why I have some hearing loss now, but like what I like. Will definitely upgrade on my next vehicle to get a better audio system as it's so worth it to me. And many times, just swapping out the oem speakers will add some goodness to the whole system.

stickguy · May 2019

Tom, it’s been a long time since I went to a broadway show in NY. but it’s a fun experience, just with dinner, pricey! Make a weekend of it. We usually see b’way shows at the kimmell center instead. Never heard of that particular show but if wife liked the movie, will likely find that good too.

ruking1 · May 2019

henryn said:
I never heard of anyone getting passed over for a job due to having served in the US military. At least not as long as you were honorably discharged. I supposed it might have happened, but it would have probably been pretty d___ rare. And there are many jobs where veterans are given preference.

It’s hard to speak to that hypothetical hypothesis!

I got let go once because I got a “USAF reserve” gig, that only worked M-F, & on demand. Most know reserve units as the “weekend warriors”. Two weeks summer training was normal. I was in the employ of the then famous Dallas, Texas based computer company. The founder, some years later even ran for president. They made it a point to hire Veterans. I’m guessing they really didn’t like the reserve’s DAYS. Even as they staunchly “saluted the flag”. So naturally I tried to negotiate a compromise. Evidently they didn’t even like that. Not long after, a year later, I got a package to resign.

explorerx4 · May 2019

@tjc78.
I'm sure your wife would like "Pretty Woman' better if you could get Richard Gere a seat next to her.

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