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  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXPosts: 2,575
    edited June 2019
    qbrozen said:



    Received notice today that Safeco is increasing our auto premiums from $2200/year for both cars and two drivers to - wait for it $4100/year.

    Obviously going shopping.

    Did they find the body of the person you ran over?

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    Yes, and what's worse, they found his cell phone, which was recording at the time ...

    2018 Ford F150 XLT Crew Cab, 2016 Chrysler Town & Country Touring
  • omarmanomarman Posts: 2,334
    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:



    Received notice today that Safeco is increasing our auto premiums from $2200/year for both cars and two drivers to - wait for it $4100/year.

    Obviously going shopping.

    Did they find the body of the person you ran over?
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-==-- end quoted material =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Yes, and what's worse, they found his cell phone, which was recording at the time ...



    A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,997
    $4100?! Holy schnikes. I am just over $1800 for both cars, and the wagon isn't exactly a cheap car.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    @omarman - one of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite TV series. “Is there any way the package could survive?”  :p
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,430
    edited June 2019
    I'm at $5300 for six cars and a motorcycle- all with Progressive except for the Club Sport, which is with Hagerty.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,811
    At $4,100 year you can put it in your pocket, self-insure, not have a claim for 10 years, and go buy a brand new Golf R with the savings.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 153,140
    I'm right at $2000/yr for the Jetta and Outback.

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


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    2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,116
    qbrozen said:



    Received notice today that Safeco is increasing our auto premiums from $2200/year for both cars and two drivers to - wait for it $4100/year.

    Obviously going shopping.

    Did they find the body of the person you ran over?

    Perhaps some analyst looked at the file, saw both a Saab and an Alfa, and concluded it was a high-risk situation due to the decision-making by the owner. ;)

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    decided after seeing a few commercials and getting feedback from the women in the house that the new Passport is nice. So putting that on the short-ish list for the next car. Probably the closest thing to the wife's current car on it too, with the big V6 and design. Might be too big and bulky though. Need to check it out in person.

    I am still touting the new OB. she seems ambivalent at best about it, so I guess that will take checking out in person too. The interior likely would sway her.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Posts: 1,155
      Wow, crazy court day for you over there Michael glad all is well now. 
  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Posts: 1,155
     That was a comment from Friday that I thought I posted is things weird sometimes 
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    speaking of the wife, she may want to keep her RDX until one of them dies. We were out in the new car, and she was complaining about not knowing how to use everything, and liking having a big radio tuning knob in the RDX instead of touch screen buttons. Even though the TLX has way more presets so little need to ever tune by tough! Going to need some serious instruction time when she gets a new DD. Does not help that she drives mine infrequently so does not get used to stuff.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Posts: 1,155
     What a mess what happen with your friend and driving through the water hoping for the best 
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,379
    The Passport is a potential replacement for our Pilot. We will no longer need the 3rd row seating and the wife likes the V6 power and overall looks.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,364
    ab348 said:

    I had a 2013 S4. Great ride, for sure. Gonna cost him for repairs and maintenance......a LOT! If he’s OK with that, it’s a fun ride.

    Personally? I’d do the new GLI with the warranty and all the modern goodies! He’ll be happier in the long run.

    Don't I recall that the Audi ended up being a buyback after you had some issues with it?
    Yes....Quattro system kept disabling the car.
    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,364
    stickguy said:

    that was his fleet of Cadillac's that all got bought back.

    I had some catastrophic bad luck with cars the early part of this decade.
    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,106
    I had a 2013 S4. Great ride, for sure. Gonna cost him for repairs and maintenance......a LOT! If he’s OK with that, it’s a fun ride. Personally? I’d do the new GLI with the warranty and all the modern goodies! He’ll be happier in the long run.
    Don't I recall that the Audi ended up being a buyback after you had some issues with it?
    Yes....Quattro system kept disabling the car.
    Minor issue

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXPosts: 2,575
    edited June 2019
    nyccarguy said:



    ab348 said:

    I had a 2013 S4. Great ride, for sure. Gonna cost him for repairs and maintenance......a LOT! If he’s OK with that, it’s a fun ride.

    Personally? I’d do the new GLI with the warranty and all the modern goodies! He’ll be happier in the long run.

    Don't I recall that the Audi ended up being a buyback after you had some issues with it?
    Yes....Quattro system kept disabling the car.

    Minor issue

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    Yeah, they all do that.

    2018 Ford F150 XLT Crew Cab, 2016 Chrysler Town & Country Touring
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    This would make a great daily driver


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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    well, no worries about seeing OK at night on back roads.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    I forgot all about the Audi buyback. Man, you did have a run of bad luck. Unless you are some kind of automotive hypochondriac.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • au1994au1994 GAPosts: 1,657
    edited June 2019
    Random musings on a lazy, cloudy and rainy Sunday...

    I was thinking about the attainable cars on my bucket list. These are cars that for what ever reason, I’ve desperately wanted but for one reason or another never pulled the trigger. Sometimes it was finances that held me back, sometimes it was I simply made another choice, sometimes it was just the wrong car for the time. Nothing like a Ferrari or an old Saab that would never serve well as a DD. I’ll list mine below but was wondering what the crew here has on their list.

    — Jeep Grand Cherokee
    — Nissan Maxima
    (Never said this list would make sense :smile: )
    — Volvo S60 or a Volvo wagon
    — BMW Z4
    — Another pick up (I’ve had a Tacoma and a Ram)
    — Wrangler Unlimited
    — Toyota Land Cruiser (ok, at 80k this probably isn’t attainable)
    — Mercedes E wagon

    2019 Subaru Crosstrek Limited Venetian Red over Black
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • au1994au1994 GAPosts: 1,657
    sda said:

    The Passport is a potential replacement for our Pilot. We will no longer need the 3rd row seating and the wife likes the V6 power and overall looks.


    I’m a fan too. The size looks just right to me.

    2019 Subaru Crosstrek Limited Venetian Red over Black
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    one downside to the Passport is that I would be hoping to get something with a bit better MPG potential. The Passport is likely to suck gas like a Pilot. Not really wanting to get worse mileage than the RDX, especially if we are keeping that one. Need at least 1 set of wheels that won't drink us out of house and home!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,364
    stickguy said:

    I forgot all about the Audi buyback. Man, you did have a run of bad luck. Unless you are some kind of automotive hypochondriac.

    Probably some of both!
    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    I like this

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    But...why?
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    just buy a Jeep. easier to find parts.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 216
    Do people on here have legit compulsive buying disorder or is this a forum for people to figure out ways to buy clunkers?
    2019 Audi Q8, 2017 Porsche Cayenne S, 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL63 AMG, and 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500W4

    Previously owned/leased BMWs, Volvos, and Volkswagens
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    edited June 2019
    Well. That’s a little black and white. 

    I think the better answer is “yes”, with each of us falling somewhere on the car-buying spectrum. 
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    Okay, out of all the cars I saw today, that I could conceivably afford to purchase, this is my favorite:


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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,106
    Do people on here have legit compulsive buying disorder or is this a forum for people to figure out ways to buy clunkers?
    Welcome @mb_enthusiast .  Yes.  Most of us are here for the group.  I’m not sure if you are a long time lurker or not, but this is a “down” year for us.  We’ve got some staple members and some who have come and gone.  @corvette, what was our punch count for 2017 and 2018?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,430
    au1994 said:

    Random musings on a lazy, cloudy and rainy Sunday...

    I was thinking about the attainable cars on my bucket list. These are cars that for what ever reason, I’ve desperately wanted but for one reason or another never pulled the trigger. Sometimes it was finances that held me back, sometimes it was I simply made another choice, sometimes it was just the wrong car for the time. Nothing like a Ferrari or an old Saab that would never serve well as a DD. I’ll list mine below but was wondering what the crew here has on their list.

    — Jeep Grand Cherokee
    — Nissan Maxima
    (Never said this list would make sense :smile: )
    — Volvo S60 or a Volvo wagon
    — BMW Z4
    — Another pick up (I’ve had a Tacoma and a Ram)
    — Wrangler Unlimited
    — Toyota Land Cruiser (ok, at 80k this probably isn’t attainable)
    — Mercedes E wagon

    For me:
    M3(2008)
    Challenger Hellcat Widebody
    GT350
    Boss 302(2013)
    TR3A
    Jensen Interceptor
    Mini Cooper GP

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,430
    kyfdx said:

    Okay, out of all the cars I saw today, that I could conceivably afford to purchase, this is my favorite:


    I love GTVs.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    now that is a nice Alfa. I always liked that model. Of course, have never driven one so that could certainly change.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    For the BMW fans

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    "dream" cars? Mine probably fall into 2 categories. classics I would like now (and always did) and ones from back in my early driving days I really wanted but passed on for one reason or another (usually $).

    a '69 and '70 Z28 always. a 911.

    and stuff like an '84 Celica GTS, 1st gen GTI, 2nd gen RX7, assorted Volvos. mid-80s Mustang 5.0LX. BMW E46 3 series and the early-2000s vintage 5 series.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,379

    au1994 said:

    Random musings on a lazy, cloudy and rainy Sunday...

    I was thinking about the attainable cars on my bucket list. These are cars that for what ever reason, I’ve desperately wanted but for one reason or another never pulled the trigger. Sometimes it was finances that held me back, sometimes it was I simply made another choice, sometimes it was just the wrong car for the time. Nothing like a Ferrari or an old Saab that would never serve well as a DD. I’ll list mine below but was wondering what the crew here has on their list.

    — Jeep Grand Cherokee
    — Nissan Maxima
    (Never said this list would make sense :smile: )
    — Volvo S60 or a Volvo wagon
    — BMW Z4
    — Another pick up (I’ve had a Tacoma and a Ram)
    — Wrangler Unlimited
    — Toyota Land Cruiser (ok, at 80k this probably isn’t attainable)
    — Mercedes E wagon

    For me:
    M3(2008)
    Challenger Hellcat Widebody
    GT350
    Boss 302(2013)
    TR3A
    Jensen Interceptor
    Mini Cooper GP
    The Jensen Interceptor has always been a favorite of mine. I liked the Triumph Stag for many years until I found out that a Yugo was more durable and reliable.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,955
    can't say he wasn't warned. And when a guy with a SAAB and an Alfa warns you against it, and then laughs at you, you know you are way into the deep end of the pool without a life jacket.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 216
    edited June 2019
    @nyccarguy No, this is the first time I am reading this thread. I don't even know where to begin...

    @Michaell mentioned this to me in the Porsche Lease Deals and Prices thread, because I was asked why I was still shopping when I had leased an Audi Q8 less than a month ago. Legitimate question.

    I'm in my mid-twenties, and I car shop pretty much non-stop. I've always loved cars, especially German cars—Mercedes-Benzes in particular, classic and modern. Since I was about 20, I have proceeded to purchase and lease vehicles at a ridiculous clip, especially for someone who seldom works on them personally. I'll do some minor stuff here and there, certainly beyond what an average driver does, but I don't have a workshop by any stretch.

    It probably became most evident to many of the people around me and to me that I had a bit of an issue when I purchased two cars within seven days of each other hundreds of miles apart. I did this while in a PHP/IOP program (an intensive outpatient program for mental/behavioral health) following the death of my mother. That was a few years ago now.

    I had told the clinicians at the program that I had intense urges to buy a car, and that I could not stay off of CarGurus. If I recall correctly, their (all women) response was to tell me to keep off of CarGurus and to stop shopping. By the time I told them this, I had already visited a few dealerships looking for a particular Mercedes-Benz. I had also started negotiating to purchase a low mileage Volkswagen Phaeton that I had found on some website halfway across the country.

    I put a deposit down on the Phaeton, and I booked a flight and bought an Amtrak ticket to get me to the small town where this Phaeton was so that I could drive it nearly 1k miles home. I was going to leave early on a Saturday morning and try to be home by Sunday. This was going to fulfill a childhood dream. I was fascinated with the Phaeton when it arrived in the States. I think I was 9. I drew pictures of the car and would walk past the VW dealership that was just a few blocks from my house. I so wanted my mother to get one, but of course, she insisted upon getting the 2005 E500 when it came time to replace the 2001 E320.

    Anyway...Before I could travel there, I came across what I thought was the perfect Mercedes-Benz. It was a 'modern diesel,' and I had been wanting to experiment with a diesel car while still being able to use my phone for everything. For whatever reason, I wanted to be open with my father about this purchase and had him accompany me to the dealer to finalize the deal. This car would prove to be a bit of a disaster and was the car that I most recently got rid of.

    I concocted a story about needing to visit an aunt as an excuse for me to travel. I was so exhausted from traveling that I kept falling asleep at the wheel trying to drive from the east coast to Ohio to overnight with the aunt before I brought the car home to Illinois. She was the only person aware of the car purchase, and because she was semi-estranged at the time from the rest of the family, I knew she wouldn't say a word about the car or the visit. Going through with this purchase was when I started hiding cars from my significant others, parking them on the streets and hiding all mail related to those vehicles, etc.

    I told everyone at the program what I had done, and they were at a loss. It was reiterated to me again that I needed to stay off of CarGurus. I successfully did that for a few months, but then I started having all kinds of problems with my diesel and decided that I needed to purchase another car—convincing myself that I would get the diesel fixed if only I had another car to drive...at this point I had four cars. I ended up buying multiple other cars between then in 2017 and 2018. After going on a sleepless 72-hour buying spree in 2018 that involved me falling asleep at the wheel and skidding across five lanes of traffic before regaining control, I decided at that moment that I needed to pare down my inventory. I sold and traded four cars over the past almost 16 months. I sold three myself using eBay, Facebook, and CarGurus. I sold the Phaeton for more than I paid for it.

    Last month, I traded my broken down daily driver for a 2019 Audi Q8 with the help of @Michaell and @kyfdx. The experience of negotiating a lease on the Q8 brought about a rush of emotions and reminded me how much I love to haggle.

    When I was about 11, I spent over $9k on eBay auctions, buying Yu-Gi-Oh! cards, computers, G.I. Joes, and other oddities over a few months before my mom noticed...should have been a warning sign...

    I'm loving my Q8, but now I feel like I should get something else. My mind: I have a lot of room in my garage and my driveway. I need to lease something else because I only have 15k miles per year. My GL450 just passed 100k miles; it's time for me to get something new. I miss having a diesel. It's time for me to get a real hybrid or EV. This Q8 is too thirsty. [Unnamed Alfa dealership owner]'s personal Alfa Romeo Stelvio was so fresh and sporty; I am so thankful that he let me borrow it; I need something so sporty; I should buy something from him since he let me borrow that. I have money for this. I can make this work. This will make me feel good (and cool cars do, no doubt about it)...etc...

    Every time I log onto myAudi (the app opens on my phone every time I get in my car), I am prompted to make a reservation for the e-tron. Fully-refundable $1k deposit is all that is needed to place an order! My Audi salesmen send me more advertising messages about getting a new Audi now after I made my purchase in May than they did after I sent in a lead in December.

    Super neurotic, super scattered, and struggling to find a middle ground here.

    I really feel like I want to get another car.

    Today, I do not compulsively buy anything besides cars.
    2019 Audi Q8, 2017 Porsche Cayenne S, 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL63 AMG, and 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500W4

    Previously owned/leased BMWs, Volvos, and Volkswagens
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    edited June 2019

    My friend’s S4 made it 24 hours before dying. Oxygen sensor failed.  Can’t. Stop. Laughing. 

    At least he can console himself with the fact that it's more "special" than a new GLI. :D
    nyccarguy said:

    @corvette, what was our punch count for 2017 and 2018?

    2017 - 46 punches
    2018 - 45 punches
    2019 YTD - 10 punches - get to cracking, people! :@
  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 216
    au1994 said:

    Random musings on a lazy, cloudy and rainy Sunday...

    I was thinking about the attainable cars on my bucket list. These are cars that for what ever reason, I’ve desperately wanted but for one reason or another never pulled the trigger. Sometimes it was finances that held me back, sometimes it was I simply made another choice, sometimes it was just the wrong car for the time. Nothing like a Ferrari or an old Saab that would never serve well as a DD. I’ll list mine below but was wondering what the crew here has on their list.

    — Jeep Grand Cherokee
    — Nissan Maxima
    (Never said this list would make sense :smile: )
    — Volvo S60 or a Volvo wagon
    — BMW Z4
    — Another pick up (I’ve had a Tacoma and a Ram)
    — Wrangler Unlimited
    — Toyota Land Cruiser (ok, at 80k this probably isn’t attainable)
    — Mercedes E wagon

    That list is like me. There is no reason to it. I like my cars to have some practicality and utility, but my pricing is all over the place. However, I would not spend over $200k for any car. I think that's ridiculous.
    2019 Audi Q8, 2017 Porsche Cayenne S, 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL63 AMG, and 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500W4

    Previously owned/leased BMWs, Volvos, and Volkswagens
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    @mb_enthusiast Welcome to our group and sorry for the loss of your mother.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,430
    kyfdx said:

    For the BMW fans

    I wish I would have picked a Turbo up back when they were borderline affordable...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,754

    Well. That’s a little black and white. 

    I think the better answer is “yes”, with each of us falling somewhere on the car-buying spectrum. 

    LOL Yes exactly.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,754
    MB, when you're hiding transactions and falling asleep at the wheel while bringing vehicles home, there's definitely a problem!

    TBH, this may be a dangerous place for you... so much enabling going on here! That said, there are a few of us who have gone half-way across the country for a car. I have gone way, way further than that. In some ways, it is like a bonding experience with the car - makes the ownership more memorable even if it is not a long overall time that I own it.

    You're very young yet. If you want to get your impulses under control, perhaps try to play a goal-setting game with yourself. For example, your new Q8: I suspect it would be an accomplishment for you to hold this vehicle through the lease period. As you idly hunt for what is next, that short list of what you really want front and center, then reward yourself at turn in by your next lease being the car that tops the list and checks off the most boxes.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,811

    My friend’s S4 made it 24 hours before dying. Oxygen sensor failed.  Can’t. Stop. Laughing. 

    How many previous owners? I have my eye on a red S4 at Carmax, but it doesn't say "single owner" which they usually tout. The blue A4 they have does say that.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    andres3 said:
    My friend’s S4 made it 24 hours before dying. Oxygen sensor failed.  Can’t. Stop. Laughing. 
    How many previous owners? I have my eye on a red S4 at Carmax, but it doesn't say "single owner" which they usually tout. The blue A4 they have does say that.
    1 owner. 


    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
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