Real-World Trade-In Values

qbrozen · June 2019

steine13 said:
Q - It's good to have you back, sir!
2007 Volkswagen Passat sedan, black, 2.0 turbo, 6MT. Traded at the local VW dealer...I know where those turn up... One owner, looks like a car half as old.
Interior is clean, paint looks fantastic, some curb rash on the alloys and one flaw: rust on front driver's wheel well. Which is what happens in the rust belt when any sheet metal gets exposed, at all, ever. I believe it's the "2.0 T" trim level. Does have leatherette and sunroof, that's as far as I got.
Just under 100k miles. No price on it yet, and at 13 years old, it's all in the condition, but I thought I'd ask.
[Meanwhile, the sage green 2008 A6 4.2 quattro that looked amazing for its age has disappeared from the trade-in lot and not turned up anywhere. Probably snapped up by an employee. Good luck; THAT car would not be for the faint of heart.]
I'll say Thank You now -- don't like to clog up the forum with 'empty' posts. cheers -mathias

They will probably slap a $4995 tag on it, but I’d personally be hard pressed to go past $3500. You’ll want to get the cam follower, cam, and oil inspected first, though.
...as I now see you folks already discussed. ;b

sda · July 2019

For fun, anyone want to guess what CarMax appraised the Accord? I had some free time and was curious. Sadly, no punch pending.

2013 Accord EX, auto, Champagne Frost Pearl, very good to excellent condition, 88850 mi, needs nothing. 29715 zip.

Michaell · July 2019

sda said:
For fun, anyone want to guess what CarMax appraised the Accord? I had some free time and was curious. Sadly, no punch pending.

2013 Accord EX, auto, Champagne Frost Pearl, very good to excellent condition, 88850 mi, needs nothing. 29715 zip.

$10-11K

stickguy · July 2019

I was gonna guess $7k

28firefighter · July 2019

I'll say 8500.

thebean · July 2019

Carmax has been stingy lately, I have heard. I’ll go with $8,250.

sda · July 2019

28firefighter said:
I'll say 8500.

I like Michaell's$10k the best, but $8500 is spot on! I haven't look at other sources, but I thought the offer was reasonable.

nyccarguy · July 2019

sda said:

28firefighter said:
I'll say 8500.

28firefighter said:
I'll say 8500.
I like Michaell's$10k the best, but $8500 is spot on! I haven't look at other sources, but I thought the offer was reasonable.

Check Carvana and Vroom.

jmonroe1 · July 2019

sda said:
For fun, anyone want to guess what CarMax appraised the Accord? I had some free time and was curious. Sadly, no punch pending.

2013 Accord EX, auto, Champagne Frost Pearl, very good to excellent condition, 88850 mi, needs nothing. 29715 zip.

Whatever happened with Honda's holding their value? This past April, Carvana gave me $12,751 for Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy Limited with the 3.6 engine that just turned 36K miles in the same condition you say your Accord is in. I'm guessing that your Accord has a 4 cylinder and it does have more than twice the mileage, so that might wipe out the normal Honda advantage.

Maybe Mr. @q can tell us what your Accord would be worth if it had the same specs and mileage as Mrs. j's old Subie.

jmonroe

thebean · July 2019

I’m guessing it has to do with sedan versus wagon. Sedan values have to be going down as demand is probably quite a bit less than supply, especially in the 3-5 year age.

sda · July 2019

I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

jmonroe1 · July 2019

sda said:
I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

I hear what you and @thebean are saying but could this shift in demand for CUV's/SUV's and trucks have changed all that much since April?

jmonroe

thebean · July 2019

@jmonroe1, it probably hasn’t changed since April. I would guess the Accord value would have been around the same in April as it is now. The delta between SUV’s and sedans has been going on for a couple of years, I would imagine. Your foresight in buying the Subie has been rewarded.

jmonroe1 · July 2019

thebean said:
@jmonroe1, it probably hasn’t changed since April. I would guess the Accord value would have been around the same in April as it is now. The delta between SUV’s and sedans has been going on for a couple of years, I would imagine. Your foresight in buying the Subie has been rewarded.

OK, I'll take your word for it but I'd still like to see a side by side comparison of Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy to an Accord, given the same specs. Plus @sda's Accord is a 2013 whereas her Legacy was a 2012. I thought a one year newer Accord would balance out something when comparing it to a 2012 Subie.

jmonroe

Michaell · July 2019

jmonroe1 said:

thebean said:
@jmonroe1, it probably hasn’t changed since April. I would guess the Accord value would have been around the same in April as it is now. The delta between SUV’s and sedans has been going on for a couple of years, I would imagine. Your foresight in buying the Subie has been rewarded.
OK, I'll take your word for it but I'd still like to see a side by side comparison of Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy to an Accord, given the same specs. Plus @sda's Accord is a 2013 whereas her Legacy was a 2012. I thought a one year newer Accord would balance out something when comparing it to a 2012 Subie.

jmonroe

You are underestimating the impact the miles have on the value.

36,000 on the Subaru versus over 80,000 on the Accord. That makes a big difference.

sda · July 2019

That would be an interesting comparison. In Mrs j’s favor was it was a top of the line Subaru instead of the mid level trim Accord EX, low, low miles, and the strong following Subaru has currently.

explorerx4 · July 2019

Some of the difference has to due with supply. There are a lot of 2013 Accords out there and far fewer Legacy's.
Plus the dog commercials help.

ronsteve · July 2019

I think the biggest difference in this Accord vs Legacy thread is the mileage! I'd be willing to bet that if you compared vehicles with similar mileage the Accord and Legacy would be similarly valued. The 3.6 in the Legacy would probably cancel out the Accord being a year newer...

woodyww · July 2019

sda said:
I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

I'm amazed that you were offered $8500--is that right?--for a 6 y.o. Accord EX with 88850 miles. And from a dealer! No dealing with tire-kickers and weirdos to take it for "test drives" & get weird on you. I know it's a Honda, but still.

I'm thinking that's probably great low depreciation for you. And the thing about SUVs/CUVs/trucks & wagons vs. sedans--I've thought that for decades. Try going to a "big box" store & buying a new lawnmower or big screen TV & fitting it into a sedan.

jmonroe1 · July 2019

woodyww said:

sda said:
I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.
I'm amazed that you were offered $8500--is that right?--for a 6 y.o. Accord EX with 88850 miles. And from a dealer! No dealing with tire-kickers and weirdos to take it for "test drives" & get weird on you. I know it's a Honda, but still.

I'm thinking that's probably great low depreciation for you. And the thing about SUVs/CUVs/trucks & wagons vs. sedans--I've thought that for decades. Try going to a "big box" store & buying a new lawnmower or big screen TV & fitting it into a sedan.

About 6 years ago or so, I bought a 55 inch TV and it fit into Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy once the rear seats were folded down. Even had a little room to spare. Now, lawnmower, no but that is why I have son's with vans.

jmonroe

corvette · July 2019

Lawn mower, yes! I fit a push mower in the back seat of my Jetta GLI. I think I had to take it out of the box, but I can’t remember, as it was years ago.

xwesx · July 2019

Last time I bought a lawnmower, I slipped it into the back of my Fiesta... still boxed.

Honestly, anymore the only time I use my truck is if I want to use it. Nearly everything that "needs a truck" is easily doable with either the cargo tray on the back of my Forester/Q7, or using the little 8x8 ATV trailer behind the same. I even moved about 2,000# of paper files once with that trailer, towing it behind my Fiesta. So, truck? Not all that necessary. There is the occasional monster load (e.g., 3-4,000# or 8,000#+ towing) for which it comes in handy, but these are so infrequent.

andres3 · July 2019

Carvana and Vroom want late model used cars, 3 years old or less, with low miles, and I know this, because that's obviously their target market in what they like to sell. IF they don't sell it on their site, it means they have to give someone else a "cut" of the profit.

Got a good offer on a '17 VW Alltrack for this reason.

R56 · July 2019

Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

pensfan83 · July 2019

Color? Location? Options? General condition?

nyccarguy · July 2019

R56 said:
Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

Color?
Options?
Stick or Automatic?
What state or region of the country are you located in?
Interior/Exterior condition?
How worn are the tires?
Have you made any modifications?
Does it have any specific maintenance needs?
Is it a Sport or Sport S?

qbrozen · July 2019

R56 said:
Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

Sure. Wrap it in flat black, and install 20" black wheels with 33"x10.5" rubber. I also like the look of push bars on these.

R56 · July 2019

nyccarguy said:

R56 said:
Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?
Color? Grey
Options? Sport S package, factory running boards
Stick or Automatic? Auto
What state or region of the country are you located in? NJ
Interior/Exterior condition? Clean inside and out
How worn are the tires? Tires are 50%
Have you made any modifications? no
Does it have any specific maintenance needs? No
Is it a Sport or Sport S?

qbrozen · July 2019

R56 said:

nyccarguy said:

R56 said:
Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?
Color? Grey
Options? Sport S package, factory running boards
Stick or Automatic? Auto
What state or region of the country are you located in? NJ
Interior/Exterior condition? Clean inside and out
How worn are the tires? Tires are 50%
Have you made any modifications? no
Does it have any specific maintenance needs? No
Is it a Sport or Sport S?

About $20k-$21k

sda · July 2019

Wow, out of curiosity I did the appraisal on Carvana, $10716. CarMax $8500.

andres3 · July 2019

sda said:
Wow, out of curiosity I did the appraisal on Carvana, $10716. CarMax $8500.

Carvana is Carmax to the tenth power.

How does one invest in Carvana; they are going to be highly successful.

nyccarguy · July 2019

sda said:
Wow, out of curiosity I did the appraisal on Carvana, $10716. CarMax $8500.

Impressive

roadburner · July 2019

@qbrozen: Could you please check and see what the dealer paid for this at auction?
https://autogroupoflouisville.com/1998-BMW-3Series/Used-Convertible/Louisville-KY/12925224/Details.aspx
Thanks!

qbrozen · July 2019

I don't see it listed.

But 70k-80k mile units are $10k. Can't imagine they put more than $15k into it.

kyfdx · July 2019

$26500!! Holy crap.

I really don't want to pay $10K to save 50K miles..

Elroy · July 2019

Hello all

What am I looking at in trade for a 2015 Subaru Forester XT premium. 72k miles, 1 accident, no smoking, regular dings, fair condition. In Oklahoma City

Thank you in advance

xwesx · July 2019

Elroy said:
Hello all

What am I looking at in trade for a 2015 Subaru Forester XT premium. 72k miles, 1 accident, no smoking, regular dings, fair condition. In Oklahoma City

Thank you in advance

Does the collision show up on Carfax, and what happened (e.g., how bad was it?)?

Elroy · July 2019

No on Autocheck and yes on Carfax I believe.

It was right fender dmg, somewhere around $3 - 5 k if I remember correctly

qbrozen · July 2019

Tough to value without seeing it up close. If it isn't a crazy color combo, you may be down around $11k.

Elroy · July 2019

It's blue.

CarMax came back at $11,500. They ran Autocheck and called it accident free but their inspection noted the repaint on the right fender and hood.

Carvana is $11,900 and Vroom is $11,750 both include the accident.

There are not very many used turbo Foresters available in my area (Oklahoma)

kyfdx · July 2019

Elroy said:
It's blue.

CarMax came back at $11,500. They ran Autocheck and called it accident free but their inspection noted the repaint on the right fender and hood.

Carvana is $11,900 and Vroom is $11,750 both include the accident.

There are not very many used turbo Foresters available in my area (Oklahoma)

Seems like a turbo Forester would be an easy sale, private party.

nyccarguy · July 2019

Elroy said:
It's blue.

CarMax came back at $11,500. They ran Autocheck and called it accident free but their inspection noted the repaint on the right fender and hood.

Carvana is $11,900 and Vroom is $11,750 both include the accident.

There are not very many used turbo Foresters available in my area (Oklahoma)

Stick or Automatic?

28firefighter · July 2019

The last gen Forester XT is pretty sought after because they stopped making the XT in the new body style.

I’d list it on some enthusiast forums and I bet you do way better than $12k.

kyfdx · July 2019

28firefighter said:
The last gen Forester XT is pretty sought after because they stopped making the XT in the new body style.

I’d list it on some enthusiast forums and I bet you do way better than $12k.

Ship it to the PNW?

thebean · July 2019

Selling a $12K car private party would be a pain, I would think. Lots of looky-loos and people that want you to tote the note. I’ll take trade in every time and avoid that hassle.

andres3 · July 2019

My experience with trying to sell a car over 10K privately is that it takes way too long. With Carvana halving the margins between Private and Trade-In... it's a no-brainer.

skarface · July 2019

2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!

qbrozen · July 2019

skarface said:
2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!

About $3k-3500 for non-Touring

skarface · July 2019

qbrozen said:

skarface said:
2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!
About $3k-3500 for non-Touring

What do you think private party?

qbrozen · July 2019

skarface said:

qbrozen said:

skarface said:
2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!
About $3k-3500 for non-Touring
What do you think private party?

If tires and brakes are good, shine it up real nice and list it for $7495. Probably see $6k on it easily.

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