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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    edited June 2019
    steine13 said:

    Q - It's good to have you back, sir!

    2007 Volkswagen Passat sedan, black, 2.0 turbo, 6MT. Traded at the local VW dealer...I know where those turn up... One owner, looks like a car half as old.

    Interior is clean, paint looks fantastic, some curb rash on the alloys and one flaw: rust on front driver's wheel well. Which is what happens in the rust belt when any sheet metal gets exposed, at all, ever. I believe it's the "2.0 T" trim level. Does have leatherette and sunroof, that's as far as I got.

    Just under 100k miles. No price on it yet, and at 13 years old, it's all in the condition, but I thought I'd ask.

    [Meanwhile, the sage green 2008 A6 4.2 quattro that looked amazing for its age has disappeared from the trade-in lot and not turned up anywhere. Probably snapped up by an employee. Good luck; THAT car would not be for the faint of heart.]

    I'll say Thank You now -- don't like to clog up the forum with 'empty' posts. cheers -mathias

    They will probably slap a $4995 tag on it, but I’d personally be hard pressed to go past $3500. You’ll want to get the cam follower, cam, and oil inspected first, though.
    ...as I now see you folks already discussed. ;b

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,370
    For fun, anyone want to guess what CarMax appraised the Accord? I had some free time and was curious. Sadly, no punch pending.

    2013 Accord EX, auto, Champagne Frost Pearl, very good to excellent condition, 88850 mi, needs nothing. 29715 zip.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 187,005
    sda said:

    For fun, anyone want to guess what CarMax appraised the Accord? I had some free time and was curious. Sadly, no punch pending.

    2013 Accord EX, auto, Champagne Frost Pearl, very good to excellent condition, 88850 mi, needs nothing. 29715 zip.

    $10-11K

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,146
    I was gonna guess $7k

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,760
    I'll say 8500.
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  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownMember Posts: 1,153
    Carmax has been stingy lately, I have heard. I’ll go with $8,250.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,370

    I'll say 8500.

    I'll say 8500.

    I like Michaell's$10k the best, but $8500 is spot on! I haven't look at other sources, but I thought the offer was reasonable.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,758
    sda said:

    I'll say 8500.

    I'll say 8500.

    I like Michaell's$10k the best, but $8500 is spot on! I haven't look at other sources, but I thought the offer was reasonable.
    Check Carvana and Vroom.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 2,731
    sda said:

    For fun, anyone want to guess what CarMax appraised the Accord? I had some free time and was curious. Sadly, no punch pending.

    2013 Accord EX, auto, Champagne Frost Pearl, very good to excellent condition, 88850 mi, needs nothing. 29715 zip.

    Whatever happened with Honda's holding their value? This past April, Carvana gave me $12,751 for Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy Limited with the 3.6 engine that just turned 36K miles in the same condition you say your Accord is in. I'm guessing that your Accord has a 4 cylinder and it does have more than twice the mileage, so that might wipe out the normal Honda advantage.

    Maybe Mr. @q can tell us what your Accord would be worth if it had the same specs and mileage as Mrs. j's old Subie.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownMember Posts: 1,153
    I’m guessing it has to do with sedan versus wagon. Sedan values have to be going down as demand is probably quite a bit less than supply, especially in the 3-5 year age.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,370
    I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 2,731
    sda said:

    I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

    I hear what you and @thebean are saying but could this shift in demand for CUV's/SUV's and trucks have changed all that much since April?

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownMember Posts: 1,153
    @jmonroe1, it probably hasn’t changed since April. I would guess the Accord value would have been around the same in April as it is now. The delta between SUV’s and sedans has been going on for a couple of years, I would imagine. Your foresight in buying the Subie has been rewarded. :)
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 2,731
    thebean said:

    @jmonroe1, it probably hasn’t changed since April. I would guess the Accord value would have been around the same in April as it is now. The delta between SUV’s and sedans has been going on for a couple of years, I would imagine. Your foresight in buying the Subie has been rewarded. :)

    OK, I'll take your word for it but I'd still like to see a side by side comparison of Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy to an Accord, given the same specs. Plus @sda's Accord is a 2013 whereas her Legacy was a 2012. I thought a one year newer Accord would balance out something when comparing it to a 2012 Subie.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 187,005
    jmonroe1 said:

    thebean said:

    @jmonroe1, it probably hasn’t changed since April. I would guess the Accord value would have been around the same in April as it is now. The delta between SUV’s and sedans has been going on for a couple of years, I would imagine. Your foresight in buying the Subie has been rewarded. :)

    OK, I'll take your word for it but I'd still like to see a side by side comparison of Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy to an Accord, given the same specs. Plus @sda's Accord is a 2013 whereas her Legacy was a 2012. I thought a one year newer Accord would balance out something when comparing it to a 2012 Subie.

    jmonroe
    You are underestimating the impact the miles have on the value.

    36,000 on the Subaru versus over 80,000 on the Accord. That makes a big difference.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,370
    That would be an interesting comparison. In Mrs j’s favor was it was a top of the line Subaru instead of the mid level trim Accord EX, low, low miles, and the strong following Subaru has currently.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 15,877
    Some of the difference has to due with supply. There are a lot of 2013 Accords out there and far fewer Legacy's.
    Plus the dog commercials help. :D
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  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 949
    I think the biggest difference in this Accord vs Legacy thread is the mileage! I'd be willing to bet that if you compared vehicles with similar mileage the Accord and Legacy would be similarly valued. The 3.6 in the Legacy would probably cancel out the Accord being a year newer...
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  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,821
    sda said:

    I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

    I'm amazed that you were offered $8500--is that right?--for a 6 y.o. Accord EX with 88850 miles. And from a dealer! No dealing with tire-kickers and weirdos to take it for "test drives" & get weird on you. I know it's a Honda, but still.

    I'm thinking that's probably great low depreciation for you. And the thing about SUVs/CUVs/trucks & wagons vs. sedans--I've thought that for decades. Try going to a "big box" store & buying a new lawnmower or big screen TV & fitting it into a sedan.
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 2,731
    woodyww said:

    sda said:

    I'm sure the mileage dings the value. The value was probably more negatively impacted by weak sedan sales demand. Walking the CarMax lot and other dealerships their inventory is heavy in SUVs/CUVs and trucks. When I visited the Audi dealership it appeared no one was looking at sedans, only the Q3, Q5 and Q7.

    I'm amazed that you were offered $8500--is that right?--for a 6 y.o. Accord EX with 88850 miles. And from a dealer! No dealing with tire-kickers and weirdos to take it for "test drives" & get weird on you. I know it's a Honda, but still.

    I'm thinking that's probably great low depreciation for you. And the thing about SUVs/CUVs/trucks & wagons vs. sedans--I've thought that for decades. Try going to a "big box" store & buying a new lawnmower or big screen TV & fitting it into a sedan.
    About 6 years ago or so, I bought a 55 inch TV and it fit into Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy once the rear seats were folded down. Even had a little room to spare. Now, lawnmower, no but that is why I have son's with vans.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,484
    Lawn mower, yes! I fit a push mower in the back seat of my Jetta GLI. I think I had to take it out of the box, but I can’t remember, as it was years ago.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 14,969
    edited July 2019
    Last time I bought a lawnmower, I slipped it into the back of my Fiesta... still boxed. ;)

    Honestly, anymore the only time I use my truck is if I want to use it. Nearly everything that "needs a truck" is easily doable with either the cargo tray on the back of my Forester/Q7, or using the little 8x8 ATV trailer behind the same. I even moved about 2,000# of paper files once with that trailer, towing it behind my Fiesta. So, truck? Not all that necessary. There is the occasional monster load (e.g., 3-4,000# or 8,000#+ towing) for which it comes in handy, but these are so infrequent.
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,487
    Carvana and Vroom want late model used cars, 3 years old or less, with low miles, and I know this, because that's obviously their target market in what they like to sell. IF they don't sell it on their site, it means they have to give someone else a "cut" of the profit.

    Got a good offer on a '17 VW Alltrack for this reason.
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  • R56R56 Member Posts: 2
    Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaMember Posts: 2,199
    Color? Location? Options? General condition?
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,758
    R56 said:

    Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

    Color?
    Options?
    Stick or Automatic?
    What state or region of the country are you located in?
    Interior/Exterior condition?
    How worn are the tires?
    Have you made any modifications?
    Does it have any specific maintenance needs?
    Is it a Sport or Sport S?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    R56 said:

    Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

    Sure. Wrap it in flat black, and install 20" black wheels with 33"x10.5" rubber. I also like the look of push bars on these.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 54-car history and counting!

  • R56R56 Member Posts: 2
    nyccarguy said:

    R56 said:

    Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

    Color? Grey
    Options? Sport S package, factory running boards
    Stick or Automatic? Auto
    What state or region of the country are you located in? NJ
    Interior/Exterior condition? Clean inside and out
    How worn are the tires? Tires are 50%
    Have you made any modifications? no
    Does it have any specific maintenance needs? No
    Is it a Sport or Sport S?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    R56 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    R56 said:

    Anyone want to share some ideas on a 2016 wrangler unlimited sport hard top with 75k mileage?

    Color? Grey
    Options? Sport S package, factory running boards
    Stick or Automatic? Auto
    What state or region of the country are you located in? NJ
    Interior/Exterior condition? Clean inside and out
    How worn are the tires? Tires are 50%
    Have you made any modifications? no
    Does it have any specific maintenance needs? No
    Is it a Sport or Sport S?
    About $20k-$21k

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 54-car history and counting!

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,370
    Wow, out of curiosity I did the appraisal on Carvana, $10716. CarMax $8500.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,487
    sda said:

    Wow, out of curiosity I did the appraisal on Carvana, $10716. CarMax $8500.

    Carvana is Carmax to the tenth power.

    How does one invest in Carvana; they are going to be highly successful.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,758
    sda said:

    Wow, out of curiosity I did the appraisal on Carvana, $10716. CarMax $8500.

    Impressive

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 14,774
    @qbrozen: Could you please check and see what the dealer paid for this at auction?
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    Thanks!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    edited July 2019
    I don't see it listed.

    But 70k-80k mile units are $10k. Can't imagine they put more than $15k into it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 191,702
    $26500!! Holy crap.

    I really don't want to pay $10K to save 50K miles..

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  • ElroyElroy Member Posts: 3
    Hello all

    What am I looking at in trade for a 2015 Subaru Forester XT premium. 72k miles, 1 accident, no smoking, regular dings, fair condition. In Oklahoma City

    Thank you in advance
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 14,969
    Elroy said:

    Hello all

    What am I looking at in trade for a 2015 Subaru Forester XT premium. 72k miles, 1 accident, no smoking, regular dings, fair condition. In Oklahoma City

    Thank you in advance

    Does the collision show up on Carfax, and what happened (e.g., how bad was it?)?
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  • ElroyElroy Member Posts: 3
    No on Autocheck and yes on Carfax I believe.

    It was right fender dmg, somewhere around $3 - 5 k if I remember correctly
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    Tough to value without seeing it up close. If it isn't a crazy color combo, you may be down around $11k.

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  • ElroyElroy Member Posts: 3
    It's blue.

    CarMax came back at $11,500. They ran Autocheck and called it accident free but their inspection noted the repaint on the right fender and hood.

    Carvana is $11,900 and Vroom is $11,750 both include the accident.

    There are not very many used turbo Foresters available in my area (Oklahoma)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 191,702
    Elroy said:

    It's blue.

    CarMax came back at $11,500. They ran Autocheck and called it accident free but their inspection noted the repaint on the right fender and hood.

    Carvana is $11,900 and Vroom is $11,750 both include the accident.

    There are not very many used turbo Foresters available in my area (Oklahoma)

    Seems like a turbo Forester would be an easy sale, private party.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,758
    Elroy said:

    It's blue.

    CarMax came back at $11,500. They ran Autocheck and called it accident free but their inspection noted the repaint on the right fender and hood.

    Carvana is $11,900 and Vroom is $11,750 both include the accident.

    There are not very many used turbo Foresters available in my area (Oklahoma)

    Stick or Automatic?

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,760
    The last gen Forester XT is pretty sought after because they stopped making the XT in the new body style.

    I’d list it on some enthusiast forums and I bet you do way better than $12k.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 191,702

    The last gen Forester XT is pretty sought after because they stopped making the XT in the new body style.

    I’d list it on some enthusiast forums and I bet you do way better than $12k.

    Ship it to the PNW? :p

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  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownMember Posts: 1,153
    Selling a $12K car private party would be a pain, I would think. Lots of looky-loos and people that want you to tote the note. I’ll take trade in every time and avoid that hassle.
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,487
    My experience with trying to sell a car over 10K privately is that it takes way too long. With Carvana halving the margins between Private and Trade-In... it's a no-brainer.
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  • skarfaceskarface Member Posts: 67
    2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    skarface said:

    2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!

    About $3k-3500 for non-Touring

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  • skarfaceskarface Member Posts: 67
    qbrozen said:

    skarface said:

    2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!

    About $3k-3500 for non-Touring
    What do you think private party?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,320
    skarface said:

    qbrozen said:

    skarface said:

    2005 MDX AWD with only 84k miles, silver with black interior Maryland/Northern VA area. Non smoker, no accidents, 1 owner. Any ideas what trade-in should be on this? Thanks!

    About $3k-3500 for non-Touring
    What do you think private party?
    If tires and brakes are good, shine it up real nice and list it for $7495. Probably see $6k on it easily.

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