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kyfdx · August 2019

pensfan83 said:

roadburner said:
Still contemplating installing an LSD and a mild tune in the 2 Series instead of picking up something new(er). So far I’ve found an American, an Asian, and a German coupe- any of which might work.
My guesses, American=Bullitt Mustang, German=CPO M2 (maybe a 440i), Asian is a tough one.

Lexus LC 500

breld · August 2019

I'll guess an STI for the Asian one.

stickguy · August 2019

Infiniti Q60 or Nissan Z?

stickguy · August 2019

I’m excited to make a short list. Of course, there will probably be at least a few new options by then that don’t exist now (Genesis CUV?) and a handful of redesigns.

My wife might even have fun shopping this time, since the car will be her DD!

Michaell · August 2019

stickguy said:
Infiniti Q60 or Nissan Z?

Q60 Red Sport RWD, perhaps...

pensfan83 · August 2019

Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.

qbrozen · August 2019

Re: S60. I've been keeping my eyes peeled for a few months now. Actually, T5 loaners are scarce, believe it or not. And, if leasing, the Momentum is the worst deal. Just ran the numbers for a friend yesterday and found, given the same percentage discount off MSRP, a $56k R design works out to just $10/mo more than a $48k Momentum. Inscription and R design work out to about the same, but Rdes still has higher MSRP.

pensfan83 · August 2019

@tjc78 this was the one I was thinking of. Only $715 due at signing so just first payment and drive offs. No mention of MSDs and I'm guessing no B&W sound but for that price I would live with the stock stereo.

https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/2019-s60-t6-r-design-loaner-369-month-with-715-das/158851

tjc78 · August 2019

I missed that one. Wow, crazy deal.

stickguy · August 2019

I would have jumped on a deal like that! Maybe in 2 years can snag one on a loaner XC60 for the wife!

qbrozen · August 2019

Picked up my 3 this morn. So happy to have it back. They did a fantastic job. I honestly can't tell anything has been done. Even the door jamb is clean. This is my 4th time at a body shop, and it is the first time I didn't have to request they fix something they missed or screwed up.

breld · August 2019

@qbrozen - Wow! Given how quickly they got through the repair, I'm astonished that you didn't have to point anything out to get touched up or otherwise addressed.

marcogallo1986 · August 2019

@QB Nice you got it back in record time and glad all is well with it.

marcogallo1986 · August 2019

@zwest agreed my cousin was a big help wouldn’t have been able to do it on my own, I worked up a sweat by loved it.

marcogallo1986 · August 2019

@zwest also think God for him and his good eyes to see if you or your weeks help me pinpoint what I need to fix what parts I needed to order, even help me with the ordering of the parts to make sure they exactly look the same.

roadburner · August 2019

qbrozen said:
Picked up my 3 this morn. So happy to have it back. They did a fantastic job. I honestly can't tell anything has been done. Even the door jamb is clean. This is my 4th time at a body shop, and it is the first time I didn't have to request they fix something they missed or screwed up.

Great news! That was pretty much the case when the Mazda body shop fixed my MS3. I even called the body shop manager and told him what a great job the shop did.

roadburner · August 2019

pensfan83 said:
Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.

370Z is correct. It’s old school in some ways I like(NA V6) and it’s old school in some ways I don’t(crude telematics- no mobile app access). I will have to drive the candidates and see.

pensfan83 · August 2019

Was I right on the others or are you keeping it close to the vest?

corvette · August 2019

As the owner of the four door equivalent of the 370z, I approve of this line of thinking.

stickguy · August 2019

The Q60 seems to be the more modern version of the Z. A little bigger, but conceptually not all that far off.

nyccarguy · August 2019

roadburner said:

pensfan83 said:
Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.
370Z is correct. It’s old school in some ways I like(NA V6) and it’s old school in some ways I don’t(crude telematics- no mobile app access). I will have to drive the candidates and see.

@roadburner - I think you’ll enjoy the 3.7L N/A V6 a lot. It makes up for the Z’s other shortcomings. It won’t give you that daily driver/track star personality that your 2er gives you. I think a mechanical LSD would be an incredible upgrade. Once you drive with that for a while, then go for the tune.

roadburner · August 2019

pensfan83 said:
Was I right on the others or are you keeping it close to the vest?

Yep; Bullitt and M2.

qbrozen · August 2019

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

pensfan83 said:
Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.
370Z is correct. It’s old school in some ways I like(NA V6) and it’s old school in some ways I don’t(crude telematics- no mobile app access). I will have to drive the candidates and see.

@roadburner - I think you’ll enjoy the 3.7L N/A V6 a lot. It makes up for the Z’s other shortcomings. It won’t give you that daily driver/track star personality that your 2er gives you. I think a mechanical LSD would be an incredible upgrade. Once you drive with that for a while, then go for the tune.

A tune on the 370? It won't do much. Within reason, there is very little extra power to be extracted from that car with simple bolt-ons.

stickguy · August 2019

doesn't it already have in the neighborhood of 328HP? Isn't enough ever enough? If not, skip the tune, and just slap a blower on it.

nyccarguy · August 2019

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

pensfan83 said:
Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.
370Z is correct. It’s old school in some ways I like(NA V6) and it’s old school in some ways I don’t(crude telematics- no mobile app access). I will have to drive the candidates and see.

@roadburner - I think you’ll enjoy the 3.7L N/A V6 a lot. It makes up for the Z’s other shortcomings. It won’t give you that daily driver/track star personality that your 2er gives you. I think a mechanical LSD would be an incredible upgrade. Once you drive with that for a while, then go for the tune.
A tune on the 370? It won't do much. Within reason, there is very little extra power to be extracted from that car with simple bolt-ons.

I meant to put an LSD & a tune on his 2 series.

tjc78 · August 2019

stickguy said:
doesn't it already have in the neighborhood of 328HP? Isn't enough ever enough? If not, skip the tune, and just slap a blower on it.

I am all for more power ...however, after driving the Infiniti with 5 second 0-60 I think that’s more than enough to get me in trouble.

stickguy · August 2019

the Elantra is enough to get you in trouble. The Infiniti is enough to get you in jail.

roadburner · August 2019

I’m looking at a NISMO- 350 hp. Torque is down compared to the 2 Series, however. The Z runs the 1/4 in the mid thirteens, the 2er in the high twelves. I’ll need to take a long test drive to see if I could live with it.

corvette · August 2019

I hadn’t looked at the 3-series lineup in a while. Nice to see they finally dumped the 320i.

roadburner · August 2019

I drove a 320i stick with the Track Handling Package. It was actually a lot of fun. A mild tune would bump the power up to 328i levels. A bit of a unicorn, however.

stickguy · August 2019

To me, a sport package 320 is probably closest to the traditional BMW that all the purists reminisce about. But didn’t actually buy.

corvette · August 2019

I understand, but wasn’t the 0-60 in the 7 second range? That looked bad.

28firefighter · August 2019

Yes. 320i stick with track handling handled great but was sluggish.

stickguy · August 2019

That’s plenty for probably 99% of people, 99% of the time. And way faster than the classic ones.

I was looking more at respectable power, a stick, well balanced handling, etc.

If the goal is a hellcat, they make those too!

I almost bought a 168 hp 525i back in 2001. I kept hearing that is was “too slow”, but I found it plenty quick off the line, and had great mid range pull. 30 to 70 down an on-ramp, did great there. Plus, you can use the stick to keep the revs up when you need more scoot on tap.

I’d rather have that than something with so much power you have to feather the gas from a stop, and can’t ever take it over 2k RPM.

Maybe I’m a Luddite, but I find my 4 banger TLX to be plenty spritely. The RDX is a little hot rod if you floor it.

28firefighter · August 2019

More power argh argh argh

rayainsw · August 2019

2020 GLI - 'Autobahn models add standard wireless charging and the DCC® adaptive damping system for the 2020 model year.'
No 35th edition.
- Ray
Link
https://media.vw.com/releases/1186

breld · August 2019

Regarding power, I particularly enjoy the way the Miata drives with its relatively low power and naturally aspirated engine. It's very engaging to row through the gears without getting to illegal speeds too quickly.

I can see the appeal of the 370z as an old school choice. As I mentioned before, I hadn't driven a Nissan or Infiniti in a while until I had that Maxima as a rental last week - that "old school" V6 is pretty sweet. And as dated as the 370z may be, I was next to one earlier this week and still find the design of it appealing. The NISMO model is particularly sharp.

tjc78 · August 2019

@stickguy
We hear you! Heck I thought my 09 Genesis with 290 was flat out fast. I know it’s not especially now but it felt it back then.

breld · August 2019

I remember getting my '93 Prelude Si when I graduated college - 160 hp and I was hot stuff!

28firefighter · August 2019

Beautiful. That was worthwhile waiting then on GLI.

roadburner · August 2019

breld said:
Regarding power, I particularly enjoy the way the Miata drives with its relatively low power and naturally aspirated engine. It's very engaging to row through the gears without getting to illegal speeds too quickly.

I can see the appeal of the 370z as an old school choice. As I mentioned before, I hadn't driven a Nissan or Infiniti in a while until I had that Maxima as a rental last week - that "old school" V6 is pretty sweet. And as dated as the 370z may be, I was next to one earlier this week and still find the design of it appealing. The NISMO model is particularly sharp.

I like the Miata as well; the thing is, with my Club Sport I already have a “momentum car.”

marcogallo1986 · August 2019

@Ray, did you get a new ride? If so congratulations on the punch, if not yet then whoops my bad, from the sound of the posting above seems like you might have.

pensfan83 · August 2019

The Acura moves pretty quick if you want it to or it will loaf along at 75MPH around 1,600 RPM. I've grown to appreciate the linear and smooth power delivery of the V6.

28firefighter · August 2019

TLX V6 A-Spec SH AWD looks like it could be a bit better than normal. There is an additional $1250 in loyalty/conquest money on top of the $9100 in lease cash. Even with the astronomical MF and pitiful residual, you could still get a 36/10 lease with first month and tags in the very low 400s. Assuming you can find any leftover 2019 stock.

jmonroe1 · August 2019

tjc78 said:
@stickguy
We hear you! Heck I thought my 09 Genesis with 290 was flat out fast. I know it’s not especially now but it felt it back then.

Believe me, you would not have wanted to drive your anemic V6 '09 Genny in the Burgh area with all the hills around here. It might have been OK in the flat lands of NJ but the V8 Genny is the only one you want around my area.

jmonroe

stickguy · August 2019

Had a major sad today. Cut a corner too close and curb the heck out of my right front wheel. Thankfully tire seems OK, and hopefully no alignment issues, but the poor rim looks terrible. I guess I’ll find out if my auto club wheel protection is going to cover it. If not, might be repairable but I assume that takes a while. And I really don’t want to know how much a new one costs.

Serves me right for getting fancy wheels and low profile tires. Never again. Told the wife, next car will be an F250.

corvette · August 2019

Better curb protection is a bonus of switching to a plus-zero tire size.

kyfdx · August 2019

corvette said:
Better curb protection is a bonus of switching to a plus-zero tire size.

If the Plus ZERO is done correctly, the sidewall be the exact same height..

If it's taller, you are just putting on the wrong size..

pensfan83 · August 2019

@stickguy I feel your pain, I have a 1 inch scratch from catching a curb at the drive up ATM. I don't know how you feel but with the darker rims it seems like it shows more.

breld · August 2019

My 16 year old called me at 11:00 the other night (on his way home) to say he took a left turn a bit too sharply and curbed the driver's side rear tire. Apparently it scared the heck out of him - and the tire was completely flat.

So...given it's an older Acura with an actual spare tire, it was a sort of fun opportunity to show him how to change a tire out. And then we just drove it over to the local Discount Tire and left it there for the night.

The tires were going to have to be replaced soon-ish anyway, so we just put on four new tires. Overall it was a good lesson for him - scared him a bit, made him more aware of spacing on turns, and at the end of the day, there wasn't any horrible consequence.

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