Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

jpp75 · October 2019

I had a new RAV4 for a rental in Houston this week. I think it was an XLE. I like the looks and while it wasn't anything exciting to drive it was more than competent.

28firefighter · October 2019

Looks like my in laws will end up with a GLA. It’s a former loaner with P01 Premium, Smartphone Pack, and matte wood trim. MSRP is just over $40k so fairly stripped.

corvette · October 2019

Whatever floats their boat. Are these in laws the ones who planned to borrow your spare car, when you had one--don't they live out of town?

fintail · October 2019

Matte dark wood I bet, it's always that blackish wood.

28firefighter · October 2019

Yes, but they're here WAY more than they originally had planned - initial thought was 6-8 weeks a year. So far this year it's been like 17 or 18. Which is great for Sam and getting lots of family time, but untenable for us in terms of sharing.

Michaell · October 2019

28firefighter said:
Yes, but they're here WAY more than they originally had planned - initial thought was 6-8 weeks a year. So far this year it's been like 17 or 18. Which is great for Sam and getting lots of family time, but untenable for us in terms of sharing.

Wouldn't it be less expensive for them to rent a car when they are in Seattle?

The way I'm looking at it is this - $310/mo for 12 months is $3720. Divide that by the 18 weeks they are in town and that's just over $200/week. I'm sure they could rent something for that rate.

Not to mention insurance and storage costs.

What am I missing here?

28firefighter · October 2019

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:
Yes, but they're here WAY more than they originally had planned - initial thought was 6-8 weeks a year. So far this year it's been like 17 or 18. Which is great for Sam and getting lots of family time, but untenable for us in terms of sharing.
Wouldn't it be less expensive for them to rent a car when they are in Seattle?

The way I'm looking at it is this - $310/mo for 12 months is $3720. Divide that by the 18 weeks they are in town and that's just over $200/week. I'm sure they could rent something for that rate.

Not to mention insurance and storage costs.

What am I missing here?

They ran the numbers and came to the conclusion they could not.

In the off season $200/week is doable. But from May-September during cruise season, rentals can run as high as $500/week, esp for an SUV. They're here quite a bit during the summer.

Michaell · October 2019

28firefighter said:

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:
Yes, but they're here WAY more than they originally had planned - initial thought was 6-8 weeks a year. So far this year it's been like 17 or 18. Which is great for Sam and getting lots of family time, but untenable for us in terms of sharing.
Wouldn't it be less expensive for them to rent a car when they are in Seattle?

The way I'm looking at it is this - $310/mo for 12 months is $3720. Divide that by the 18 weeks they are in town and that's just over $200/week. I'm sure they could rent something for that rate.

Not to mention insurance and storage costs.

What am I missing here?
They ran the numbers and came to the conclusion they could not.

In the off season $200/week is doable. But from May-September during cruise season, rentals can run as high as $500/week, esp for an SUV. They're here quite a bit during the summer.

Do they need to rent an SUV?

Hey, it's not my money, and I've got no skin in the game, I'm just genuinely curious.

But, I'm glad Sam gets to see his grandparents as much as he does. I only saw my paternal grandparents a handful of times in my life - I grew up in CA, while they lived in NY.

ab348 · October 2019

@28firefighter , where will the car be stored when they are not in Seattle?

28firefighter · October 2019

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:
Yes, but they're here WAY more than they originally had planned - initial thought was 6-8 weeks a year. So far this year it's been like 17 or 18. Which is great for Sam and getting lots of family time, but untenable for us in terms of sharing.
Wouldn't it be less expensive for them to rent a car when they are in Seattle?

The way I'm looking at it is this - $310/mo for 12 months is $3720. Divide that by the 18 weeks they are in town and that's just over $200/week. I'm sure they could rent something for that rate.

Not to mention insurance and storage costs.

What am I missing here?
They ran the numbers and came to the conclusion they could not.

In the off season $200/week is doable. But from May-September during cruise season, rentals can run as high as $500/week, esp for an SUV. They're here quite a bit during the summer.
Do they need to rent an SUV?

Hey, it's not my money, and I've got no skin in the game, I'm just genuinely curious.

But, I'm glad Sam gets to see his grandparents as much as he does. I only saw my paternal grandparents a handful of times in my life - I grew up in CA, while they lived in NY.

Believe me - I've had this same conversation because I think its a bit much, but their perception is they need an SUV to "move things."

I'm glad he gets so much time with them - but its hard, as he only sees my parents in person a few times a year. Thankfully we FaceTime 4-5 times a week with them and my siblings, but it is still hard.

28firefighter · October 2019

ab348 said:
@28firefighter , where will the car be stored when they are not in Seattle?

In their condo garage - which is why I lost my Saab parking space.

nyccarguy · October 2019

I like this. Would be nicer if the color were darker. I believe this is one of Terry's dealerships too.

https://www.bmwoffreeport.com/used-Freeport-2016-BMW-2+Series-2dr+Cpe+M235i+xDrive+AWD-WBA1J9C51GV696486

28firefighter · October 2019

What's not to like!?

stickguy · October 2019

Just the absurdly skinny sidewalls and somber black hole interior! And the price.

nyccarguy · October 2019

stickguy said:
Just the absurdly skinny sidewalls and somber black hole interior! And the price.

How much is one of these new? $50K?

28firefighter · October 2019

Closer to 60k, I think, depending on options.

kyfdx · October 2019

28firefighter said:
Closer to 60k, I think, depending on options.

I’d guess closer to $50K in 2016.

Price seems high to me, for a 4 yr old car..

Of course, I want RWD and a stick...

nyccarguy · October 2019

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:
Closer to 60k, I think, depending on options.
I’d guess closer to $50K in 2016.

Price seems high to me, for a 4 yr old car..

Of course, I want RWD and a stick...

Then it would be more expensive due to the fact that it is a "RARE 6-SPEED!" + "LOW MILEAGE!" + "EXTRA CLEAN!" + "CERTIFIED!"

qbrozen · October 2019

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:
Closer to 60k, I think, depending on options.
I’d guess closer to $50K in 2016.

Price seems high to me, for a 4 yr old car..

Of course, I want RWD and a stick...

Seemed high to me, too, but auction results are about $29k. Yikes.

jmonroe1 · October 2019

nyccarguy said:
I like this. Would be nicer if the color were darker. I believe this is one of Terry's dealerships too.

https://www.bmwoffreeport.com/used-Freeport-2016-BMW-2+Series-2dr+Cpe+M235i+xDrive+AWD-WBA1J9C51GV696486

HUH? How much darker do you want it? If it was any darker it would be black. I call that 'old man's gray'. I otta know because my '15 Genny is that color also has a black interior. Being in that thing is like being in a cave when someone turned off the lights. I don't like it to this day but I ain't getting rid of it anytime soon, it just turned 8,600 miles yesterday. Mrs. j would kill me if I even mentioned that.

jmonroe

Sandman6472 · October 2019

That gray 328i is gone already which is not surprising. Great price with average miles for the year. Car looked very clean though I never even got to sit in it. I knew before Stick said anything that it's a bit too long for my requirements and I still prefer a hatch right now, very versatile for my needs currently.
Got to drive the kids Cruze last night and I like it. It does everything she needs...and then some and is nicely equipped. Think the 18" alloys are a bit overkill but they do look great. She's thrilled with it and getting excellent mpg's!

pensfan83 · October 2019

If the price is right I'm not going to protest too much but I'd really like to move away from a black interior after the Acura goes back. I may or may not have mentioned this before but the last non-black interior I had was my 4th gen Accord.

kyfdx · October 2019

pensfan83 said:
If the price is right I'm not going to protest too much but I'd really like to move away from a black interior after the Acura goes back. I may or may not have mentioned this before but the last non-black interior I had was my 4th gen Accord.

I need black carpets. Beige interior with beige carpet and beige dash? No thanks.

stickguy · October 2019

I keep saying no more black interiors. then I get another one. I rationalized this one because it is Alcantara seating surfaces. And has some red trim (Elantra did too). Plus, that was the only way to get it (wife was never approving the lipstick red leather).

I do like the dark carpets and lower dash, with lighter seats and upper dash and headliner. That is a good mix

pensfan83 · October 2019

kyfdx said:

pensfan83 said:
If the price is right I'm not going to protest too much but I'd really like to move away from a black interior after the Acura goes back. I may or may not have mentioned this before but the last non-black interior I had was my 4th gen Accord.
I need black carpets. Beige interior with beige carpet and beige dash? No thanks.

I couldn't do that combo either but I would like at least a splash of some color whether it be seating surfaces, headliner, dash, etc. If I could have customized my car I would have taken a TLX in red with black carpets, but the espresso leather and lighter headliner.

laurasdada · October 2019

I'm gonna look for non-black interior next, too. While my XF has black, it's a bit broken up by a wide swath of aluminium and wood veneer on the dash and doors. Lighter headliner, too, so not as sepulchral as black interiors of many BMWs, MBs, Porsche and Audis I've seen.

nyccarguy · October 2019

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:
I like this. Would be nicer if the color were darker. I believe this is one of Terry's dealerships too.

https://www.bmwoffreeport.com/used-Freeport-2016-BMW-2+Series-2dr+Cpe+M235i+xDrive+AWD-WBA1J9C51GV696486
HUH? How much darker do you want it? If it was any darker it would be black. I call that 'old man's gray'. I otta know because my '15 Genny is that color also has a black interior. Being in that thing is like being in a cave when someone turned off the lights. I don't like it to this day but I ain't getting rid of it anytime soon, it just turned 8,600 miles yesterday. Mrs. j would kill me if I even mentioned that.

jmonroe

If it was any darker it would be black Exactly! That's what I want!

kyfdx · October 2019

My wife's car has black carpets and dash, and a caramel color leather seating. Looks great, I think.

ab348 · October 2019

DOWN WITH BLACK INTERIORS!!! Who's with me?!?

I was actually pleased to see a very nice, very light interior (with some black accents incl. carpets) in the Hyundai Palisade and Kia Telluride.

tjc78 · October 2019

That looks just like my car interior.

First car I had like that was my 09 Genesis. I too like the dark carpets, light seats and dash.

Sandman6472 · October 2019

The new Hyundai Revue will be out soon, saw it on a commercial last night. I'm kinda interested in it also to be honest. Especially the "denim edition" model. A bit smaller than what Ive got now but has that "cheap to keep" that I'm after. The long warranty is nice to.
Drove a 2019 Tucson yesterday afternoon and it had push button start. Drove very nicely but prefer the looks of the Sportage. The Rogue Sport is o k, a co-worker's wife has one in gray over black and it's a good looking CUV. Like the Kicks also and do plan to drive one soon. The CH-R has a pretty large blind spot in back and pretty dark with the black interior, a lighter interior might brighten things up.
I'd love a new Rav4 but again, a bit too big for my size requirements I'm thinking. And keep in mind on the GLA, it's pretty damn thirsty and I brought mine back to Enterprise after 3 days and got a Rav4 which was better with the petrol.
Have discussed leasing but still doing around 13K/year of driving so makes more sense to buy. Will be at around 61K by December 12th, when I'll have had my current Golf for five years.

Sandman6472 · October 2019

My Golf has a similar interior and love it. A few smallish marks in almost five years but not too bad really. A black pleather interior down here in South Florida is super hot in the long summers we have and one tends to sweat a lot very quickly. My ivory seats don't do this and are much more comfortable. I don't mind a gray interior either but if it's all black, it's not coming home with me.

explorerx4 · October 2019

Getting close to retirement age, but not ready for condo living.
Yard is some work, but I'd still rather have it than not.
Down sizing the # of vehicles will be a challenge, too.

stickguy · October 2019

I want to downsize, but probably still a single. Just smaller yard. But not smaller garage! I only want to downsize the house SF, yard to mow, and space to store the wife's "stuff"

I actually want a better set-up to create an extra off street parking spot that does not block the garage.

Sandman6472 · October 2019

Want to downsize but keep a 2-car garage. Minimal lawn for lawn guy to cut. Still keep two vehicles. And enough parking when the kids come home for weekends/vacations. Would like a 3/2.5 with around 1500 square feet, condo or house. Probably stay in Florida but west coast or around Orlando. Spend around $260K, give or take.

tifighter · October 2019

The X has black leather with carbon fiber inserts, and a black alcantara headliner. It avoids cave status by having a ginormous windshield combined with glass on the roof. It actually looks pretty nice IMHO.

fintail · October 2019

Brown suits the wagon perfectly:

explorerx4 · October 2019

Just bought my 'retirement' car a week ago Saturday.
Interior colors pretty much look like a combo of the Mercedes and the Palisade.
Looking for a 3/2 ranch with 3 bay garage and basement.

corvette · October 2019

explorerx4 said:
Just bought my 'retirement' car a week ago Saturday.
Interior colors pretty much look like a combo of the Mercedes and the Palisade.
Looking for a 3/2 ranch with 3 bay garage and basement.

Did I miss a punch? Details please.

explorerx4 · October 2019

@corvette,
Haven't really posted in the is thread.
Bought a 2019 Lincoln MKZ AWD Reserve 1 with Reserve upgrade package.
Black with cappuccino colored interior.

suydam · October 2019

I like that color combo. Very similar to my Volt, although it’s a white exterior.

explorerx4 · October 2019

I'm still waiting for the Fusion I traded in to actually be for sale on the dealer website.
Probably waiting for the title paperwork to clear before listing a price and putting up pictures.

jmonroe1 · October 2019

kyfdx said:
My wife's car has black carpets and dash, and a caramel color leather seating. Looks great, I think.

The '18 Legacy I got for Mrs. j in April has a burgundy exterior with beige seats, black carpets and black dash. I like that color combo much better than my '15 Genny with the 'old man's gray' exterior and everything black interior. Since April I have gotten at least 10 "nice car" comments while driving her car. Still waiting for someone other than my across the street neighbor who likes the color of my Genny.

jmonroe

stickguy · October 2019

Burgundy over beige is a great combo. I would love that for the next car.

ronsteve · October 2019

suydam said:
Gotta disagree with you on one point, Sandy. If I made a reservation and was promised a car, and was told “they just ran out”, that would be the last time I’d use that company. And Hertz costs more too, so you expect better service. Not even the cheap companies like Budget or Dollar have done that to me.

Thrifty did that to me once in ATL, the weekend before Xmas. First they said "go straight to your car" but it turned out it wasn't mine, but some guy with the same name from TEXAS! My name isn't even that common! Then they claimed they were 150 cars short! Tried to set me up with some other off-brand company that was across two Interstates, and when I got out there they told me they would be closed on Xmas Day so we wouldn't be able to return their Daewoo then. Soooo they hauled us back to the airport, and instead of calling a hotel shuttle and dealing with car rental the next morning, I decided to try my luck as a walk-up and Budget had me leaving their lot in a car in 20 minutes. Thrifty sent me a check for the difference in rental costs, and a voucher for a free weekend rental which is the only other time I would ever use them. Since then I think I have rented a couple from Budget and one from Avis, but it's been almost entirely Hertz.

ronsteve · October 2019

stickguy said:
I would lose my **** if that happened. Once they accepted the reservation, there better be a car there, or get me one real quick.

A la Steve Martin in Planes Trains and Automobiles...

ronsteve · October 2019

stickguy said:
the blue on that MB really is something. The Audi is attractive, but the interior tech is a bit old fashioned. Kinda reminds me of a better quipped version of our RDX. At this point unless I was shopping the really cheap end of the spectrum (like QB with the Equinox) I don't want to get a prior generation model and regret not having the latest goodies. My wife even comments that the RDX looks/smells like an "old car" now. But she still likes it (paid for, and she knows how to use everything, since there is not much to use).

Same dilemma I had with the Volvo V60CC I found (2018). Compared to the new models, it looked like an antique inside. But it was a lot cheaper! Just hard to commit to something for a long time, if it already feels outdated at the beginning.

The two cars in my household are both the last year before some major tech upgrades, and we like it that way! My RDX is a Tech package, but 99% of the time I'm content to let the display screen go dark after 60 seconds by not touching "OK" to acknowledge that I'm supposed to watch the road and not the screen.

stickguy · October 2019

we don't have the tech package so the RDX is really old fashioned.

marcogallo1986 · October 2019

@ Sandman, the new Hyundai venue is out, I saw a commercial for it on TV earlier. And I thought of you and I said I’ve been meeting to post in here for the past two days anyway and catch up, glad you were driving your daughter’s new cruise keep on doing the car shopping and looking and you’ll find something you like. How’s everyone’s week been going? So far so good, Jim, job searching and making the best of every day. Looking for a driver for next year‘s car show season someone reliable, can’t just be on my cousin all the time not fair to him, or me.

marcogallo1986 · October 2019

@ explore for, nice to see you back in here and congratulations on the punch of the Lincoln MKC, sounds like a lovely colors. Except exterior of Jet and Brad or Blue personally.

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