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Even if the package isn’t quite Audi, it looks like it will be 10 grand less, give or take for like configurations, especially in upper trim (mid 40s vs mid 50s), which seems a fair tradeoff if it delivers on essentials. VW has now 6-year btb warranty, probably to win trust back after the scandals, this definitely helps, as long as they make good on it.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
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2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
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My wife just got a Tiguan SEL 4-Motion, and it's pretty darn good and loaded. I'd say it's overpriced, but not with a giant discount we were able to negotiate. It was based on the "Costco" deal, which is super aggressive, and I was happy having it matched. Some dealerships wouldn't "match it" and claimed there were probably "catches" to it. Other than having to listen to (waste time) the finance guy sales spiel trying to sell warranty on a 6 year 72K bumper to bumper warranted car, not really any "catches" at all.
I have the Tiguan on my "to look at" list. Has to be really nice to get my wife to consider a VW though!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Digital HD cluster gauges in SEL trim. Once you get that, you never go back. Pano roof. A very nice leatherette, especially in interior gray color. We got the Stone Blue (sort of a grayish bluish hint of green) with the gray interior, a nice combo. Her first choice was ice silver which is like a super light almost white nardo gray, but that seems to have been discontinued as a color. One salesman suggested Audi wanted the color.
8 speed auto, 2.0T motor tuned for 87 octane. Lots of room vertically and length-wise. Good looking well-designed SUV!
The 6-year 72K mile bumper to bumper warranty is almost guaranteed to be used and come in handy, even if it were a Honda, which it isn't! It's also a TRANSFERABLE warranty so it's not a gimmick like Hyundai/Kia where the warranty is only good for the first owner. I will say the Alltrack was problem free for 31K miles.
Wife says she got the 4-motion because it felt and drove better than the 2-wd model which she tested back to back. Says the AWD felt lighter/peppier, probably due to better acceleration, even in the dry. Something about the feel of AWD, which she said reminded her of the Alltrack drive, which is a good thing.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Perhaps not.
Pretty sure I could take it out at the end of the lease and they wouldn’t notice but I didn’t keep all the foam filler parts so I’m not likely to bother.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOjXCQVSKA
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
https://www.porsche.com/usa/modelstart/all/
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
There's a little video about it that you can click on here....
https://www.acura.com/tlx/features#power-handling
https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/11/what-vehicles-have-rear-wheel-steering-.html
And although it's buried in a deluge of all sorts of other info on the TLX, there is a section on Acura's 4-wheel steering in the TLX press kit for 2018....
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases/release-4ab1e0fb10674d7791526ba08c42d93f-2018-acura-tlx-overview
Also missing from the calculation is the cost of the Tesla home charger, which costs $500, with maybe an additional $500 to install. So that's another $1k where this calculation is off.
The bottom line is that the model 3, rather than being around $2k less expansive than a Camry over 10 years, is probably closer to being $6k more expensive.
But, if you compared a Tesla with a Mercedes A220 or BMW 3-series, it seems like the Tesla might come out on top in terms of 10 year costs.
one other thing with the 10 year comparison. The Tesla is basically a PC. in 10 years, the batteries may or may not work, and the car could be out of date and not upgrade-able. At least you know the Camry will be perfectly fine to just keep driving!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://insideevs.com/news/390520/today-federal-tax-credit-tesla-gone/
Tesla claims, however, that the battery on the Model 3 is designed to last at least 300,000 miles in regular use, and in few years that might be well over 500,000:
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-may-soon-have-a-battery-that-can-last-a-million-miles/
The Tesla Model 3 at this point gets "free" software updates over the web:
https://www.tesla.com/support/software-updates
The current model 3 motor is designed to last perhaps as long as 1 million miles:
https://electrek.co/2018/10/15/tesla-drive-after-million-miles-test/
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
https://www.tesla.com/findus/list/services/United States
Probably little after-market supporting them so far too.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
And did I also hear that the Stinger has lease incentives of up to $10k?
Sounds like an amazing deal on an impressive car....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nDEvihRUk
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
https://www.kia.com/us/en/stinger
And since the base Stinger starts at c. 35k, would it be possible to get that model for as low as c. 25k?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
For instance the Audi A4 has a starting msrp of c.$38k, but as far as I can tell no such models are ever built or sold. The least expensive A4 at my local Audi dealer has an msrp of c. $45k.
And then we have the example of the KIA Stinger, which seems like a very impressive car, the equal to something from BMW or Mercedes if they offered something like that, but at an msrp of thousands less. And because of the huge lease incentives the msrp of the Singer is deceptive on the other side. You might think that with an msrp of $45k or more that a loaded Stinger is out of reach, but since it's actually c. $10k less it becomes quite good deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLG6r5bp0k&t=1272s
2018 430i Gran Coupe
Kia's MSRPs are pure fantasies drawn by accountants in the beginning of the model, later brought to reality, just like domestic manufacturer's.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Well that makes sense as it's mostly a BMW anyway
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2018 430i Gran Coupe
6 trim levels have lease cash at or above $10K for 24 month terms.
Many, many people are "leasing", then immediately buying out the lease.
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