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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,576
    @28ff,
    That sure is a nice truck in the background(looks like mine). :D
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,573
    I’d be all over that 328xi wagon if I didn’t have the G37.
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,931
    Well that wagon is just lovely.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 820
    Left front fender brand new 😂
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    Yeah I already asked about that.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,573
    At that age and price range, I don’t think paint work is a huge deduction.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    No. I just want to know what it is. Assuming it’s not beat up or suffered a serious accident/damage, it’s fine.

    My Dad wants this...
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    Car is actually in Vancouver BC. That complicates things. I know it’s possible to import from Canada, especially a car that was sold here as well, but not sure...
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 8,143
    stickguy said:

    that GX does look nice. and is probably the perfect height (hip point) for you. I know from the past when I had lower lumbar issues that a low slung car is a killer to get in and out of.

    for the winter car, depends where you are. Places up in NY (near OF, and a bit NW where it is even much worse) you can end up with a car coated in salt for 4 straight months. And you see a whole lotta cars rotted out completely (like Farmers plywood hooptie van). Plus it is colder than heck all the time. and of course the roads are bombed out. So for around town duty the real requirements are starting when cold out, good heater, and cushy ride. The Olds should hit the bill. Driving excitement is rarely appearing on the radar.

    Apparently the GX is manufactured in S. Korea. I wonder how much is Buick and how much is Kia or Hyundai.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,338
    I believe Daewoo is now GM Korea.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 820
    corvette said:

    At that age and price range, I don’t think paint work is a huge deduction.

    I mainly wondered if the paint matches well because they only showed a picture of that fender with the driver’s door open
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,548
    I think the original Encore was produced in Korea or China, I’m not sure. We’ve had ours for 5 years now, and have replaced 2 tires and had 3 oil changes. Period.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 156,934
    Not as much fun as you would think. That might be the least inspiring 6 cylinder that BMW has ever wrought.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 4,979
    My wife’s 2010 wagon was quite fun to drive. The previous owner did put an aftermarket exhaust on it but I don’t imagine that added much to the performance.

    The Msport package is a little more distinctive but then again it would then probably be in the overpriced BaT bucket.

    I think that’s a great wagon - nice color combo. Having the Nav modernizes the interior. Off the cuff seems like it’s priced reasonably.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2020 Supra

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,353
    Why is the left front fender brand new? I’d need a lot more info. And why so stingy with the exterior shots?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,353

    Car is actually in Vancouver BC. That complicates things. I know it’s possible to import from Canada, especially a car that was sold here as well, but not sure...

    I always wondered about that too. I’ve heard it’s problematic to get them registered if built for the Canadian market.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,664
    nice. even with AWD. wonder how bad the accident was that they had to replace the front fender?

    I have watched too many YouTube videos lately by the guys the trade in these (Samcrac, JR, etc.) that I just assume it has, or is about to have, multiple error codes and chronic failures. But maybe this one was actually maintained and sorted out!

    love the interior.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,664
    I actually went to the buick site and built a GX last night. Pricier than I thought ($31K for a FWD without the driving aid of sporty trim package). And it comes with a 1.2l engine and CVT?

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,548
    All Buicks have highly inflated MSRP. The real prices people pay are thousands less. Very stupid if you ask me, and no one does.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,812
    I don't think it's too hard to import a car from Canada, so long as it exists in US spec. There's red tape of course, and brokers exist to take care of it for you. Might be more difficult these days, with the ban on non-essential cross-border traffic (which will probably exist for some time with the way things are being managed in Murka).

    If that BMW lived in Richmond or Burnaby, fender replacement is like tire replacement with the local driving skill set, no big deal.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,664
    I was looking at one of the recent auctions linked, and it was a car just over the border. someone asked about that, and the dealers said it was usually NBD, they took care of the paperwork and you drove it home. But with the new restrictions, they would drive it over the border to a warehouse they have on the US side, and you would do the paperwork and get the car there. But the legal aspect was supposed to be pretty straightforward, and they took care of it all.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    I’d have less concerns with a dealer but this was a private party. We passed. Too much hassle with the border closure.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulPosts: 826
    corvette said:

    I think I've posted here before - Toyota dropped E85 support on the Tundra for 2020. I was curious as to whether this was a marketing change vs. a hardware / software change, so I ran the Tundra down to its reserve and filled up with E85. The drive home was uneventful, other than noticeably lower MPG.

    I believe the incentives given to manufacturers for building flex fuel vehicles changed from year to year, and it's probably no longer attractive for most. With that, it seems like the flex-fuel experiment in the US is coming to an end, although most newer vehicles (including the Tundra) do appear to support E15. It looks like GM and Ford are the only makes still selling flex-fuel vehicles which support E85.

    Here in Louisville the delta is very small between unleaded ($2.39/gal) and E85 ($2.19), and has been too small to make up for the difference in energy density for quite some time. About the only reason to run E85 in a compatible vehicle around here is to conserve crude. Don't know if places like Iowa have a more favorable balance, but if it doesn't pay to use E85, there's not much reason for manufacturers to support it.

    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,931
    Starting to ebb closer to a punch than we planned or wanted to. We both wanted to see and drive the new TLX but we're both a little put off by a car that has roughly the same exterior dimensions as a 5 series so I think that's all but out. Ran some numbers that reflect current RDX programs and an admittedly aggressive, but not impossible dealer discount and it makes for a very good to excellent lease relative of course to the Acura brand. It's always a gamble but I'm wondering if programs will really get any better in a few months.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,979
    @pensfan83 - I can't recall...would this be a replacement for the TLX?

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2020 Supra

  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,931
    Yes
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,466
    edited June 29
    pensfan83 said:

    Starting to ebb closer to a punch than we planned or wanted to. We both wanted to see and drive the new TLX but we're both a little put off by a car that has roughly the same exterior dimensions as a 5 series so I think that's all but out. Ran some numbers that reflect current RDX programs and an admittedly aggressive, but not impossible dealer discount and it makes for a very good to excellent lease relative of course to the Acura brand. It's always a gamble but I'm wondering if programs will really get any better in a few months.

    Great car and probably about as good a time as any. They really haven't leased well since their introduction.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,683
    corvette said:

    I think I've posted here before - Toyota dropped E85 support on the Tundra for 2020. I was curious as to whether this was a marketing change vs. a hardware / software change, so I ran the Tundra down to its reserve and filled up with E85. The drive home was uneventful, other than noticeably lower MPG.

    I plugged in my BlueDriver to see whether there were any pending codes, and all hell broke loose. Trailer brake error, pre-collision error, visit dealer, etc. was popping up on the instrument cluster. It appears the scan tool is not yet compatible with 2020 models. I didn't try to clear the codes with the BlueDriver, just pulled the negative battery cable for 30 seconds or so, and all seems to be fine. It was also showing pending codes for Bank 1 / Bank 2 too lean, so I'm going to assume I will get a check engine light soon.

    I believe the incentives given to manufacturers for building flex fuel vehicles changed from year to year, and it's probably no longer attractive for most. With that, it seems like the flex-fuel experiment in the US is coming to an end, although most newer vehicles (including the Tundra) do appear to support E15. It looks like GM and Ford are the only makes still selling flex-fuel vehicles which support E85.

    It may just be marketing stuff regarding E85, but one issue could be with component compatibility. Ethanol is highly corrosive on many types of plastics and rubbers. Running E85 through a single tank in fairly short order will probably do no harm, but it could cause problems over a longer timeline.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,576
    When vehicles first became E85 compatible, the fuel delivery system had to be upgraded for the reasons xwesx mentioned.
    One of my kids filled up their Escape with E85 by mistake. Check engine light popped on, but went away after they topped it off with E10 a few times.
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,683
    tjc78 said:

    RE: “beaters”

    Who has actually had one? A real one anyway.

    Mine was from 1999 to 2001 or so. Gas was cheap so I bought a 79 -Continental Town Coupe for $700. Dull paint, rusty, low oil pressure but ran well. Fixed the AC and added dual exhausts with CAT delete. Bumped the timing till right before it pinged on premium and then beat the ever loving snot out of it (would do a nice burnout, factory trac lok still held) Put 40k on it before I junked it. Never once let me down despite having zero oil pressure hot idle in drive. I ran straight 40 oil in it.

    Several here that would probably fit the bill of a "beater." 1998 Escort, 2008 Forester, 1969 Econoline, 1976 F250, 1998 Grand Caravan.... I'm sure there's more. 2008 Focus (though I actually bought that one for a friend).
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    I was going to say that it is hard to argue with the RDX from a utility perspective, but you do already have the Tacoma...

    I think the challenge with the TLX is (1) the dimensions (and this bothered me on the Accord, too), and (2) it likely will not lease well for the first MY.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 5,129
    Was at the Acura dealer for an oil change in my TLX and saw this new MDX PMC. msrp 60k....





    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 5,129
    edited June 29
    pensfan83 said:

    Starting to ebb closer to a punch than we planned or wanted to. We both wanted to see and drive the new TLX but we're both a little put off by a car that has roughly the same exterior dimensions as a 5 series so I think that's all but out. Ran some numbers that reflect current RDX programs and an admittedly aggressive, but not impossible dealer discount and it makes for a very good to excellent lease relative of course to the Acura brand. It's always a gamble but I'm wondering if programs will really get any better in a few months.

    I think the driving dynamics on the new TLX are going to be excellent. But like you I have some concerns about the size. On the other hand, it's only about 2 inches wider and about 3 inches longer than the current TLX. And so it's a bit bigger than the current model, but not by much.

    I think the Acura loyalty incentives on the RDX right now are outstanding. I don't expect them to be this good for long. Next month my guess is that they'll be reduced.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,466
    benjaminh said:

    Was at the Acura dealer for an oil change in my TLX and saw this new MDX PMC. msrp 60k....





    Gorgeous except the wheels would be an absolute deal breaker for me

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,664
    I suspect deals really aren’t getting much better. Especially if inventory is getting thin. So if the numbers work and you can pull ahead, lock it in.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,573
    Made an appointment for the 5k tire rotation on the Tundra. I thought I'd give Oxmoor Toyota a try since it's close to me and really, it's impossible for them to screw up a tire rotation, right? Went to their website to schedule, and they wanted to sell me a "premier" service package (adding only an oil change) for $116. When I backed out of that menu and selected the 5k "complimentary service," the website told me it would cost $35. Sounds about right for "free."

    I made an appointment with Wyler Toyota with no issues. I will pay the toll and go across the river to Clarksville before I deal with the clowns at Oxmoor.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,664
    Needs a manual.

    I’m waiting for the DB7 to go up!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,466
    Just called to make the one year appointment for the Volvo. I was told service was busy and they would call me back.

    That was an hour ago, never had that happen at any dealer.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,353
    I just saw his video on that. Unusual marketing to beat the car up while he’s selling it to you. Bid is up to $5000 with 7 days to go. Already near my limit for a hooptie but probably as well fixed up as any used car out there. Really, think about it, you could see him get everything wrong with it fixed.

    If it was a convertible I’d definitely trade my Sebring for it. Both have the same miles. He admits to being the dumbest car buyer on the planet. Might work.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,353
    benjaminh said:

    Was at the Acura dealer for an oil change in my TLX and saw this new MDX PMC. msrp 60k....





    Did they steal that paint from Mazda? Agree, the wheels look so out of place.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,812
    For the sporting parent with extra shout and aggression? :)

    With 90s cars being a new darling, and Hoovie maybe taking care of problem issues, that Z28 might not fare too poorly. Just enough miles where it shouldn't be too rotten, and at the same time you can drive it a little and not devalue it. Most of those cars were ruined by eventual owners.
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,931

    I was going to say that it is hard to argue with the RDX from a utility perspective, but you do already have the Tacoma...

    I think the challenge with the TLX is (1) the dimensions (and this bothered me on the Accord, too), and (2) it likely will not lease well for the first MY.

    The utility is a little redundant but the wife loves the RDX and she has certainly indulged my fun car purchases over the past 18 months. I didn't realize AA was now available (thanks @benjaminh!) so the only thing that it's missing is a wireless charger, which isn't a dealbreaker.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    pensfan83 said:

    I was going to say that it is hard to argue with the RDX from a utility perspective, but you do already have the Tacoma...

    I think the challenge with the TLX is (1) the dimensions (and this bothered me on the Accord, too), and (2) it likely will not lease well for the first MY.

    The utility is a little redundant but the wife loves the RDX and she has certainly indulged my fun car purchases over the past 18 months. I didn't realize AA was now available (thanks @benjaminh!) so the only thing that it's missing is a wireless charger, which isn't a dealbreaker.
    I probably would not wait, in that case.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,664
    I thought the advance package Came with wireless. But apparently not. So thing I did not care much about since I would likely not use it. Plus the wife wouldn’t be able to keep that lower tray full of junk!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 820
    corvette said:

    Made an appointment for the 5k tire rotation on the Tundra. I thought I'd give Oxmoor Toyota a try since it's close to me and really, it's impossible for them to screw up a tire rotation, right? Went to their website to schedule, and they wanted to sell me a "premier" service package (adding only an oil change) for $116. When I backed out of that menu and selected the 5k "complimentary service," the website told me it would cost $35. Sounds about right for "free."

    I made an appointment with Wyler Toyota with no issues. I will pay the toll and go across the river to Clarksville before I deal with the clowns at Oxmoor.

    The local Audi dealer serviced my friend’s A6. He drove out out the dealership turning left and one of his wheels went straight. Awkward
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,593
    For today's random craigslist posting, let's just do a green Volvo, three owners old.

    18 Tesla X Performance / 18 Tesla 3 Performance / 11 BMW Z4 "the horse"

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,713
    Very close to me if anyone is interested....
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
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