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mjfloyd1 · August 3

I just looked online and the pics look like the hood doesn’t fit correctly. The center towards the grilles looks low and the edges over the headlights look high.

explorerx4 · August 3

If you are going to get a ZL1, you might as well go this version.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/hennessey-blesses-anniversary-edition-exorcist-camaro-zl1/ar-AAMTydx?ocid=hplocalnews&li=BBnbfcL

mjfloyd1 · August 3

That’s a hilarious counter to the Demon

au1994 · August 3

0-60 in 2.1 seconds. And about 5 seconds after that I would wrap it around a telephone pole and we both go to the great junkyard in the sky.

oldfarmer50 · August 3

explorerx4 said:
If you are going to get a ZL1, you might as well go this version.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/hennessey-blesses-anniversary-edition-exorcist-camaro-zl1/ar-AAMTydx?ocid=hplocalnews&li=BBnbfcL

The last part of the article mirrors my thoughts on paying $135k for any car. How could you ever take it out of the garage lest you get a stone chip or a door ding?

qbrozen · August 3

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:
If you are going to get a ZL1, you might as well go this version.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/hennessey-blesses-anniversary-edition-exorcist-camaro-zl1/ar-AAMTydx?ocid=hplocalnews&li=BBnbfcL
The last part of the article mirrors my thoughts on paying $135k for any car. How could you ever take it out of the garage lest you get a stone chip or a door ding?

Easier than the folks driving around in $250k-$300k cars like ferraris, mclarens, lambos, bentleys, etc.

stickguy · August 3

Farmer, you are thinking like a poorish guy that would have to cash out his IRA to get it. Think like a rich guy where it’s chump change, and just a car.

ab348 · August 3

Around here those driving exotic cars during the 3-4 months of the year when the weather and the pothole repair seasons align are generally the offspring of overseas gazillionaires who send their kids to university here, or local video animation/gaming tycoons who hit it big at a young age. Money is the last thing they think about.

laurasdada · August 3

stickguy said:
Farmer, you are thinking like a poorish guy that would have to cash out his IRA to get it. Think like a rich guy where it’s chump change, and just a car.

So, as I read it, you believe that cashing out my IRA for a DB11 is a good idea. Yeah, that must be it; what else could you be saying.

Thanks for the sound financial advise. And, permission.

jmonroe1 · August 3

laurasdada said:

stickguy said:
Farmer, you are thinking like a poorish guy that would have to cash out his IRA to get it. Think like a rich guy where it’s chump change, and just a car.
So, as I read it, you believe that cashing out my IRA for a DB11 is a good idea. Yeah, that must be it; what else could you be saying.

Thanks for the sound financial advise. And, permission.

And let’s hope, as one of poster buddies just said, it doesn’t end up in the junk yard in the sky. Not too many folks can handle 1,000 HP but if given the opportunity many would try.

jmonroe

laurasdada · August 3

jmonroe1 said:

laurasdada said:

stickguy said:
Farmer, you are thinking like a poorish guy that would have to cash out his IRA to get it. Think like a rich guy where it’s chump change, and just a car.
So, as I read it, you believe that cashing out my IRA for a DB11 is a good idea. Yeah, that must be it; what else could you be saying.

Thanks for the sound financial advise. And, permission.
And let’s hope, as one of poster buddies just said, it doesn’t end up in the junk yard in the sky. Not too many folks can handle 1,000 HP but if given the opportunity many would try.

jmonroe

Only 503hp, looking at the V8 engine. A couple in Stick's state; prices dropping.
Shopping remains affordable.

laurasdada · August 3

Actually, the local '18 AM DB11 at the MB dealer where I test-sat; the price was dropped $8k in the span of a week or so, and it appears to have sold.

stickguy · August 3

In Jersey? Let me know if you want me to go take one for a test drive and report back!

Sandman6472 · August 3

One of her tires is pretty new with almost perfect tread. T P can still get her the same tires and even said three is all we need. So going on their advice, we're just going to get three and call it a day. I will talk to my guy again to make sure this is the best course of action going forward and then we'll make a decision.

jmonroe1 · August 3

laurasdada said:

jmonroe1 said:

laurasdada said:

stickguy said:
Farmer, you are thinking like a poorish guy that would have to cash out his IRA to get it. Think like a rich guy where it’s chump change, and just a car.
So, as I read it, you believe that cashing out my IRA for a DB11 is a good idea. Yeah, that must be it; what else could you be saying.

Thanks for the sound financial advise. And, permission.
And let’s hope, as one of poster buddies just said, it doesn’t end up in the junk yard in the sky. Not too many folks can handle 1,000 HP but if given the opportunity many would try.

jmonroe
Only 503hp, looking at the V8 engine. A couple in Stick's state; prices dropping.
Shopping remains affordable.

Yes, you did say DB11 but I was erroneously thinking the Camaro Exorcist. Even so, 500 HP is quite a bit. My Genny has a nicely manageable 420 HP.

jmonroe

roadburner · August 3

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:
If you are going to get a ZL1, you might as well go this version.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/hennessey-blesses-anniversary-edition-exorcist-camaro-zl1/ar-AAMTydx?ocid=hplocalnews&li=BBnbfcL
The last part of the article mirrors my thoughts on paying $135k for any car. How could you ever take it out of the garage lest you get a stone chip or a door ding?

The B7 press loaner I had in 1997 stickered for over $125,000. My wife refused to drive it for fear of dinging it. I spent 2 days lapping Motorsport Ranch with it. My son and I had a ball in the $117,000 X5 M loaner I had for the Heroes of Bavaria event. Again, we drove it as it was intended to be driven- I even tried to coax a Raptor into playing, but he wasn't having it. If I could afford a $135,000 car I'd drive the wheels off of it. I sure as heck wouldn't let it waste away in the garage.

oldfarmer50 · August 3

ab348 said:
Around here those driving exotic cars during the 3-4 months of the year when the weather and the pothole repair seasons align are generally the offspring of overseas gazillionaires who send their kids to university here, or local video animation/gaming tycoons who hit it big at a young age. Money is the last thing they think about.

I actually feel sorry for those people since they can’t experience the thrill of saving up for a car and then carefully selecting just the right options to meet your needs. The anticipation of buying a car just barely within reach and working to get is half the fun.

jmonroe1 · August 3

Sandman6472 said:
One of her tires is pretty new with almost perfect tread. T P can still get her the same tires and even said three is all we need. So going on their advice, we're just going to get three and call it a day. I will talk to my guy again to make sure this is the best course of action going forward and then we'll make a decision.

Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like you should be OK. I would never be that lucky.

jmonroe

corvette · August 3

oldfarmer50 said:
The anticipation of buying a car just barely within reach and working to get is half the fun.

I've had several which were "barely within reach," and was generally disappointed in one way or another. Anymore, I prefer cars which I can very comfortably afford, which fulfill some sort of criteria I have in my head.

nyccarguy · August 3

@stickguy - this one is calling you

https://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/d/buchanan-1989-honda-accord-sei-door/7356426936.html

qbrozen · August 3

@nyccarguy said:
@stickguy - this one is calling you

https://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/d/buchanan-1989-honda-accord-sei-door/7356426936.html

Not with that transmission

stickguy · August 3

yeah, the AT eliminates it from contention. Otherwise I would like it! Though from those (crappy) pictures it looks to have been a hard 92K. And if it was a NY car I would want a pro to get that up on a lift for a serious look underneath.

fantastic generation though. One of the best cars ever made.

oldfarmer50 · August 3

nyccarguy said:
@stickguy - this one is calling you

https://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/d/buchanan-1989-honda-accord-sei-door/7356426936.html

For that price I’m a looker too but as stickguy said, I’d wonder what it looks like underneath.

nyccarguy · August 3

@stickguy said:
yeah, the AT eliminates it from contention. Otherwise I would like it! Though from those (crappy) pictures it looks to have been a hard 92K. And if it was a NY car I would want a pro to get that up on a lift for a serious look underneath.

fantastic generation though. One of the best cars ever made.

Fine. You want a stick? Prepare to pony up:

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-haven-2013-acura-ilx-24-premium/7355153544.html

jmonroe1 · August 3

stickguy said:
yeah, the AT eliminates it from contention. Otherwise I would like it! Though from those (crappy) pictures it looks to have been a hard 92K. And if it was a NY car I would want a pro to get that up on a lift for a serious look underneath.

fantastic generation though. One of the best cars ever made.

No doubt about it that car was not babied. They say 92K miles; since it’s an ‘89, I’d say that it’s turned over once but looks like twice.

jmonroe

stickguy · August 3

don't see a lot of those manual ILXs. I like it. Basically a softer, more luxurious Civic Si. Pricey; and I would want to know why an 8 YO car with 32k miles needed a paint job (plus rear suspension).

oh, black over black, tough sell!

Sandman6472 · August 4

Peekskill New York, we were all born there and lived there till 1957. Then moved a bit south closer to New York City. Have looked at the prices there and it's still a bit too pricey for us. Hoping to go back in a year or two to see some relatives.
Seems like the kids in Chicago are buying a house, a 4/2, and they'll have a guest suite downstairs which they have asked us to come & use once they have finished moving in. We're very excited for them!! And seems the
daughter in Miami is also looking for a property. Better than paying someone else's mortgage I guess...have some equity.

sda · August 4

New rear struts and paint on the ILX with only 33k? Hmm 🤔

venture · August 4

nyccarguy said:

@stickguy said:

yeah, the AT eliminates it from contention. Otherwise I would like it! Though from those (crappy) pictures it looks to have been a hard 92K. And if it was a NY car I would want a pro to get that up on a lift for a serious look underneath.

fantastic generation though. One of the best cars ever made.

Fine. You want a stick? Prepare to pony up:

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-haven-2013-acura-ilx-24-premium/7355153544.html

Bradd - In your search for a possible replacement for the pilot; if you get a chance have a look at the Subaru Ascent. When we were looking for my wife's new car last year she had it narrowed down to a Pilot or an Ascent. You can get 7 or 8 seats and there is quite a bit of room behind the rear seat. It also doesn't drive big.

I would be interested to hear your take on it.

stickguy · August 4

What happened to the Explorer fascination?

nyccarguy · August 4

venture said:

nyccarguy said:

@stickguy said:

yeah, the AT eliminates it from contention. Otherwise I would like it! Though from those (crappy) pictures it looks to have been a hard 92K. And if it was a NY car I would want a pro to get that up on a lift for a serious look underneath.

fantastic generation though. One of the best cars ever made.

Fine. You want a stick? Prepare to pony up:

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-haven-2013-acura-ilx-24-premium/7355153544.html

Bradd - In your search for a possible replacement for the pilot; if you get a chance have a look at the Subaru Ascent. When we were looking for my wife's new car last year she had it narrowed down to a Pilot or an Ascent. You can get 7 or 8 seats and there is quite a bit of room behind the rear seat. It also doesn't drive big.

I would be interested to hear your take on it.

You know, I completely forgot about the Ascent. Your wife is happy with her Ascent?

nyccarguy · August 4

stickguy said:
What happened to the Explorer fascination?

I liked the Explorer A LOT. However, I don't like it enough to pay over sticker with a marked up money factor for one.

tjc78 · August 4

@nyccarguy said:
I liked the Explorer A LOT. However, I don't like it enough to pay over sticker with a marked up money factor for one.

There is nothing I like enough to buy/lease with those terms.

qbrozen · August 4

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:
What happened to the Explorer fascination?
I liked the Explorer A LOT. However, I don't like it enough to pay over sticker with a marked up money factor for one.

You know you want to jump on the Wrangler bandwagon.

nyccarguy · August 4

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:
What happened to the Explorer fascination?
I liked the Explorer A LOT. However, I don't like it enough to pay over sticker with a marked up money factor for one.
You know you want to jump on the Wrangler bandwagon.

You want that bandwagon to come to a screeching halt? Then sure, I'll contact your broker;0)-

venture · August 4

nyccarguy said:

venture said:

nyccarguy said:

@stickguy said:

yeah, the AT eliminates it from contention. Otherwise I would like it! Though from those (crappy) pictures it looks to have been a hard 92K. And if it was a NY car I would want a pro to get that up on a lift for a serious look underneath.

fantastic generation though. One of the best cars ever made.

Fine. You want a stick? Prepare to pony up:

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-haven-2013-acura-ilx-24-premium/7355153544.html

Bradd - In your search for a possible replacement for the pilot; if you get a chance have a look at the Subaru Ascent. When we were looking for my wife's new car last year she had it narrowed down to a Pilot or an Ascent. You can get 7 or 8 seats and there is quite a bit of room behind the rear seat. It also doesn't drive big.

I would be interested to hear your take on it.

You know, I completely forgot about the Ascent. Your wife is happy with her Ascent?

* * *
She has had it for over a year and likes it a lot. It is a Limited. No sunroof (she never uses them) no NAV (she uses Waze) and 8 seats.

It's a 2.4 turbo. On a trip this past weekend to MD and back I made sure I used the adaptive cruise. It will creep up to 85, or over, in a hurry if you aren't careful.

mjfloyd1 · August 4

Jeep Wrangler 4xe check on Jeep chat says the white one ordered on 6/22 is still awaiting parts. The StingGray one ordered 7/12 has all parts and is ready to be scheduled for production. Same exact builds other than exterior color. Weird

au1994 · August 4

mjfloyd1 said:
Jeep Wrangler 4xe check on Jeep chat says the white one ordered on 6/22 is still awaiting parts. The StingGray one ordered 7/12 has all parts and is ready to be scheduled for production. Same exact builds other than exterior color. Weird

Weird indeed. Ordered 6/28 and still in gathering parts phase as of Monday. Nothing unusual on the build. Granite Crystal Pearl but I did do body color bumpers and top. Wonder if that has anything to do with it? As I understand much some of the painting is outsourced.

corvette · August 4

Manufacturing is weird, they will often group certain builds together for reasons that aren't obvious to laypeople like us, in order to optimize their throughput. I'm sure it's gotten even stranger with the parts shortages!

jmonroe1 · August 4

mjfloyd1 said:
Jeep Wrangler 4xe check on Jeep chat says the white one ordered on 6/22 is still awaiting parts. The StingGray one ordered 7/12 has all parts and is ready to be scheduled for production. Same exact builds other than exterior color. Weird

I guess it’s possible to run out of parts within a couple of weeks. Then again maybe they don’t want you to become a competing Jeep dealer. Whadda you think about that.

jmonroe

stickguy · August 4

parts come from all over. just need to be missing one and the car won't get built. could easily be something like the hardtop being delayed.

au1994 · August 5

stickguy said:
parts come from all over. just need to be missing one and the car won't get built. could easily be something like the hardtop being delayed.

Yes, they have their own processes and procedures to maximize the productivity of the line and what seems random to us, actually makes sense. I’m on the JL forum as well and there are people on there that ordered before Memorial Day and still waiting but I have seen at least one that got his in a month.

Strange supply chain anomalies seem to be normal now. IE wife’s preferred flavor of coffee creamer out for a month but all other flavors plentiful. Same with the kids favorite yogurt. I will notice other random shortages at the grocery store that usually resolve themselves in a week or so.

At least we have toilet paper.

au1994 · August 5

stickguy said:
parts come from all over. just need to be missing one and the car won't get built. could easily be something like the hardtop being delayed.

That actually could be it. Tops are outsourced, of course, and my understanding is they come in painted.

kyfdx · August 5

New member needs advice on private party selling:
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/66932/scion/x/about-selling-a-car-and-having-someone-test-drive-your-car#latest

qbrozen · August 5

y'all are failing to keep on top of me about my signature. lol. Just now updated.

We are driving the heck out of this Jeep. Over 800 miles already.

sda · August 5

qbrozen said:
y'all are failing to keep on top of me about my signature. lol. Just now updated.

We are driving the heck out of this Jeep. Over 800 miles already.

It sounds like you like the Jeep. What are your overall impressions, likes, dislikes?

28firefighter · August 5

I just got an OTA update from Jeep for the uConnect. It fixed my biggest complaint which is the backup camera lines would disappear constantly.

jmonroe1 · August 5

@qbrozen said:
y'all are failing to keep on top of me about my signature. lol. Just now updated.

We are driving the heck out of this Jeep. Over 800 miles already.

Maybe that’s because you are viewed as an up and coming @breld. Just ain’t gonna be up there long enough to make a difference.

jmonroe

qbrozen · August 5

sda said:

It sounds like you like the Jeep. What are your overall impressions, likes, dislikes?

It is pretty comfortable, but power seat adjustments would be nice, along with lumbar adjustment. It is far far quieter than I would have ever imagined. Even at highway speeds, there is no problem carrying on a normal conversation. I like the interior quality. Leather seems very nice, gauges are nice, and stereo works well. I think the storage space is adequate. The wife took the 2 kids down to Wildwood or an overnight last week. I lowered one side of the back seat and fit all of their luggage, beach bags, beach chair, cooler, and 2 surfboards, and didn't pack higher than the back seat that was upright. The longer surfboard (76"), I wedged up over the headrest of the front passenger seat.

Driving position feels VERY high. Takes a little getting used to. The batteries do keep it well-planted, though. It is on the bouncy side, of course, but that only becomes an issue with large imperfections in the road. For 99% of the smaller stuff you run into on a daily basis, it is perfectly fine. I'd say it is something like the first 20% of suspension travel is well damped, and beyond that is when you get that "truck" ride.

I think they did a pretty nice job with the powertrain. I get that they likely tried to make it drive as normal as possible, but they missed an opportunity to make it overall more efficient. I would like automatic regen braking, for example, and for the hybrid mode to work like a hybrid mode. There are 3 buttons: hybrid, electric, e-save. So the electric is all electric, as you'd suspect, and the e-save uses the gas engine instead of the battery, as you'd expect. But hybrid doesn't act like a hybrid. It still uses the battery first, so it winds up running out very fast and you get to where you are driving an all-gas car with stop-start. Personally, I don't run down the battery for more than a very brief period, but when the wife goes for longer distances, I've instructed she engage e-save when on the open road to save the battery for local driving.

nyccarguy · August 5

sda said:

qbrozen said:
y'all are failing to keep on top of me about my signature. lol. Just now updated.

We are driving the heck out of this Jeep. Over 800 miles already.
It sounds like you like the Jeep. What are your overall impressions, likes, dislikes?

DISLIKES: He wasn't able to flip it and pocket $10K right away

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