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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @fintail - I hadn't thought of a Datsun but can see it now...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited August 2021
    This one is a bit unusual and was in Manchester - clearly a bit older than the date it was taken which was about 1960..


    Note Dinky Toy type Bedford truck...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    Bedford maybe a horse box? Matchbox had a Bedford "Removals" truck like that too (from my collection):




  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,727
    edited August 2021
    The Cougar
    is a 1967.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,466
    @magnette - Thank you for the education on what occurred in Hatfield. I find it hard to imagine something on that scale happening here. About the most dramatic similar things I can thing of were when hydroelectric dams were being built that would flood existing communities along the river and those living there needed relocation.

    A lot of the buildings I saw in my virtual tour of Hatfield did have a public housing look to them so now I understand why.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,466
    I like this 1963 pic of Park Avenue Motors in Montreal just for the staged feel of it.


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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,727
    I don't see any Buicks. It's Park Avenue motors after all.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 834
    That rear seat speaker design and location - Chevrolet.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    in the rear row the nearest is a 59 Dodge - perhaps a Royal Lancer?
    I think the Ford or Meteor next to it would be a 62 and there are two Duphins with a Herald in the middle
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,727
    Lostwrench3 said:

    That rear seat speaker design and location - Chevrolet.

    1963 Chevrolet, based on the creases on the trunk lid and ride on the beltline.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @ab348 I don't know Hatfield very well but have driven through it (under it really - the A1 goes right under the centre now) but the new towns generally were planned to help clear up a lot of problems for London and were a way to avoid urban sprawl in the surroundings too.
    From the end of WW2 there was a restriction in many cases on further development immediately outside London - a "Green Belt" was established to give a space outside the outer suburbs then - and it worked well in some ways - the new towns moved out people to places which could be 'dormitory ' towns where it was possible to commute in to town unless than an hour by train to ease pressure, and it worked for a time.
    The problem is that London is large and is out of proportion to its surroundings - in some directions you have to go about sixty miles or more to get right out to the coast or to any open country really .

    It was a time when a planned economy was established here partly to avoid the problems of the prewar world - they had some failures - inner city redevelopment was a problem for a start - but it also included rebuilding the country etc too.

    What you describe about dams displacing people has more resonance for my homeland in Wales - Liverpool and Birmingham get their water from large reservoirs which flooded various valleys in mid-Wales which did cause some ill feeling back in the postwar period I think but the number of people who lost their homes was less than the number who needed the water I guess - the whole of Wales has a population not much more than twice that of Liverpool and Birmingham combined...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @fintail
    I remember that Bedford truck - I had a Matchbox tow truck with the same cab...


    The car I posted isn't British - it has a London registration from about 1959/60 but it is older than that - probably registered when brought in by a returning serviceman from the car's home country of origin...
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,159
    Two Dauphines in the middle.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    I have a few of those tow trucks, too (one of these days may do something with this collection):




    Mystery car perhaps an early Borgward Hansa.
    magnette said:

    @fintail
    I remember that Bedford truck - I had a Matchbox tow truck with the same cab...


    The car I posted isn't British - it has a London registration from about 1959/60 but it is older than that - probably registered when brought in by a returning serviceman from the car's home country of origin...

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,466
    magnette said:

    in the rear row the nearest is a 59 Dodge - perhaps a Royal Lancer?
    I think the Ford or Meteor next to it would be a 62 and there are two Duphins with a Herald in the middle

    I took the car next to the Dodge to be a '62 Oldsmobile.

    At the end of the front row is a '59 Canadian Pontiac Laurentian "coach" (2-door sedan). At first I thought it was the low-end Strato Chief model but the 3 stars on the rear quarter panel signify its higher-level status (the Strato Chief had no stars).

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,787
    Purdy


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,808
    64 Fairlane? 427 hood on it.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited August 2021
    @fintail
    Yes it's a Borgward Hansa... the registration is from London in 1959/60 and it was probably a re-registration as that would be how they dealt with car imported by forces personnel from the bases we had then in Germany.
    I have a large shoebox in our attic which contains my Matchbox toys - I retrieved them from Wales when clearing my mum's house about a decade ago...
    I will try to get them out at some stage - that tow truck is just like mine..
    None of mine have any boxes though..
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    63 Galaxie, appears to be a resto-mod with those seats and the stance.

    I think that hood was only offered on the 64 "lightweight" 427 cars.
    xwesx said:

    Purdy


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    Funny to me that someone would have bothered to do a private import on a boring looking used car like that. Must have been a deal.
    magnette said:

    @fintail
    Yes it's a Borgward Hansa... the registration is from London in 1959/60 and it was probably a re-registration as that would be how they dealt with car imported by forces personnel from the bases we had then in Germany.
    I have a large shoebox in our attic which contains my Matchbox toys - I retrieved them from Wales when clearing my mum's house about a decade ago...
    I will try to get them out at some stage - that tow truck is just like mine..
    None of mine have any boxes though..

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,675
    I really like the color on that Galaxie. Call me a stick in the mud, I prefer cars to be in stock, or very close to stock condition. A stock 427 would be fine.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,466
    sda said:

    I really like the color on that Galaxie. Call me a stick in the mud, I prefer cars to be in stock, or very close to stock condition. A stock 427 would be fine.

    I'm the same way, and the trend away from that is part of the reason I stopped going to most shows many years ago. I would speculate that it is a somewhat complex issue, but the combination of people emulating what they see some of the goofs on TV shows doing regardless of whether or not it makes any sense *cough*patina*cough* and the general sense that everything found at such events needs to have certain elements of which originality is not one, resulted in them being a place I did not need to be.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    edited August 2021
    Heck, I was that way by the time I was a teen - already had my fill of modified Chevelles or Tri-Chevies on modern wheels with a SBC under the hood or 1951 cars wearing bright yellow paint and a similar SBC under the hood. I like either factory-correct restorations, or usually even better, unrestored cars. TV has made it much worse, as you say, people emulate it. Sometimes I really wonder where the money comes from, too, although I know some of these guys of a certain demographic are mysteriously loaded.
    ab348 said:

    sda said:

    I really like the color on that Galaxie. Call me a stick in the mud, I prefer cars to be in stock, or very close to stock condition. A stock 427 would be fine.

    I'm the same way, and the trend away from that is part of the reason I stopped going to most shows many years ago. I would speculate that it is a somewhat complex issue, but the combination of people emulating what they see some of the goofs on TV shows doing regardless of whether or not it makes any sense *cough*patina*cough* and the general sense that everything found at such events needs to have certain elements of which originality is not one, resulted in them being a place I did not need to be.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,787
    fintail said:

    63 Galaxie, appears to be a resto-mod with those seats and the stance.

    I think that hood was only offered on the 64 "lightweight" 427 cars.



    Yes; 63 Galaxie 427. Definitely resto-modded.
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,614
    Whoa! 1957 Nash Ambassador.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    bhill2 said:

    Whoa! 1957 Nash Ambassador.

    That's right, last of the Nash line.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,808
    Don’t know what it is, but I like it!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,171
    Front reminds me of a Lotus

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    kyfdx said:

    Front reminds me of a Lotus

    There's a reason for that. it uses the same chassis as a Lotus Elise.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,466
    One of these...

    https://youtu.be/JKtK493sGAk

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    That's it, it's Tesla's very first production car, the Tesla Roadster Sport, a mid-engined roadster using a Lotus Elise/Exige chassis (2006-2012). A second gen with a fixed roof (and a misleading name) is to be intro'ed next year.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    I saw this early version of one of those Telsas in about 2012 I think in Essen, Germany


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited August 2021
    Exandable>



    The white Lincoln is a Continental Mk ? (VII?)


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,808
    75 camaro? I always liked that nose.

    Early 70s hornet wagon turning in.

    A couple of pintos.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,236

    The white Lincoln is a 77-79 Mark V

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,675

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,236

    Mazda Millennia. 94 ish

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,675
    tjc78 said:

    Mazda Millennia. 94 ish

    It was my 96 Millenia L which I leased for 24 months. I liked it so much I bought a 98 Millenia L (deep discount). Its been a long time since I've seen one. Poor picture of the 98. It was twilight mica blue.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,808
    Was originally supposed to be sold by their spin off brand that died on the vine.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,171
    stickguy said:

    Was originally supposed to be sold by their spin off brand that died on the vine.

    Amati?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,808
    edited August 2021
    Yup.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,675
    Unfortunately Mazda has had a continuous struggle of trying to become well established in the US. My experience with them, I've had four Mazdas, has been positive. I thought for a while Mazda was going to call it quits in the US market. They are still a fairly minor player.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    sda said:

    Unfortunately Mazda has had a continuous struggle of trying to become well established in the US. My experience with them, I've had four Mazdas, has been positive. I thought for a while Mazda was going to call it quits in the US market. They are still a fairly minor player.

    Recent articles says Mazda is doing better than most.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/27/business/mazda-sales-pandemic.html?searchResultPosition=1


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,808
    They keep hanging in. I’ve had 3. Liked them all. Great driving cars.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,466
    Back to Andy's pic, look at the size of that Olds Custom Cruiser wagon! Talk about a barge. The big Buick coupe 3 cars to the left isn't much better. Then a couple of more to the left is what looks like a mid-70s
    Ford LTD coupe, another land yacht.

    Of course, these days they could all be replaced by full-size pickups that are about the same size.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 834
    edited August 2021
    stickguy said:

    They keep hanging in. I’ve had 3. Liked them all. Great driving cars.

    I have 1 and my wife has 1.
    We love them.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    edited August 2021
    Excuse the small pic as it was from a distance, I also spotted one in Germany, notice it is on an "E" plate


    magnette said:

    I saw this early version of one of those Telsas in about 2012 I think in Essen, Germany


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,645
    I guess the Olds clamshell is a 75-76 with those lights.

    I bet all of those barges depreciated severely with the new downsized models on the scene, and the second gas crunch.
    ab348 said:

    Back to Andy's pic, look at the size of that Olds Custom Cruiser wagon! Talk about a barge. The big Buick coupe 3 cars to the left isn't much better. Then a couple of more to the left is what looks like a mid-70s
    Ford LTD coupe, another land yacht.

    Of course, these days they could all be replaced by full-size pickups that are about the same size.

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