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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,836
    nyccarguy said:

    Since the mysterious disappearing oil incident, my wife's 2017 Pilot has been behaving mechanically. I recently had (2) new BF Goodrich tires mounted on the front to prep for the winter. I think she might have hit 85,000 miles today. I have an appointment at the local Acura dealer to have the oil changed this coming Saturday AM. Last Sunday, she took my 15 year old, his friend, and our daughter skiing. Not too far, maybe a little more than an hour and a half away. Cell reception is certain areas of CT is spotty and her factory navigation system doesn't function properly all the time. The navigation screen will show the car not on the road she's travelling on. For example, she'll be driving north on the parkway and it will keep telling her "merge onto CT15 North," when she is already on CT15 North. She relies heavily on a combination of WAZE and the factory navigation for her job as a home care Physical Therapist. She commented that the navigation issue went from being a minor annoyance to a daily problem.

    So I decide to start looking. I texted my broker to see how bad a Highlander Limited Hybrid would lease at MSRP. It ain't pretty. My next stop is going to be to try and find a '21 Grand Cherokee L Limited. I can use my affiliate discount code, plus some conquest cash (he said $2,000) is available.

    It looks like my 2021 Wrangler 4xe is lost in limbo. Broker says his contact at the dealership is getting ZERO communication from Stellantis or the holding lot to see what's going on with my Jeep. Good news, my 2022 4xe got in well before the price hike. It should be here sometime in late March.

    On the navigation issue, one of our new guys was using Google Maps to get to Wayne NJ the other day and it took him to Harriman NY and then down country roads. He panicked when Google told him he was 2 and a half hours away when he knew it was less than a 40 minute drive. An old Garmin OTOH worked flawlessly.

    Possible good news on the car shortage front. I noticed today that our wholesale marketing lot had over a hundred cars ready to sell for the first time in a year. Still short of the 500+ we usually had but the most full I’ve seen it in a year. (We actually did a few deliveries to dealers today). Our new car lot for cars going into service was nearly full as well. Again, this hasn’t been the case for months.

    Certainly, this is just anecdotal but it may mean that the car shortage is loosening a bit. One can only hope. ;)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,618
    This is too awesome not to pass on for my fellow buyers. Be the only one on your block.

    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/662986151530460/



    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,526

    qbrozen said:


    Factory paint can never be replicated.

    Since the advent of latex (water-based) paint, that can be a good thing.

    Bring back Dittzler enamel!

    It never occurred to me before but watching this video from Tyrrell's Classic Workshop with the heir (owner?) of Connolly leather in the UK it was mentioned that having to move from solvent-based tanning to water-based caused the resulting seat upholstery leathers to be different than the classic ones. Interesting video.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 46,941

    Interesting design choices on that Focus. But kinda forgot the go fast parts.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,618

    @stickguy said:
    Interesting design choices on that Focus. But kinda forgot the go fast parts.

    Everybody knows that each stick-on vent or louver adds 10 hp

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusMember Posts: 13,599
    qbrozen said:

    @stickguy said:

    Interesting design choices on that Focus. But kinda forgot the go fast parts.

    Everybody knows that each stick-on vent or louver adds 10 hp


    And, looking like that, must go 0-100 MPH in 3 secs flat!
    2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,526
    stickguy said:

    Interesting design choices on that Focus. But kinda forgot the go fast parts.

    At first glance I thought it was a Subaru. But I don't think I've ever seen a white Subaru.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,836
    qbrozen said:

    This is too awesome not to pass on for my fellow buyers. Be the only one on your block.

    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/662986151530460/



    I’m not sure what I’m seeing. Did the owner think that badging and cladding covers up the dents or make the car look sporty? 175k shows how far those pre-DCG automatics could last.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 46,941
    Looks like started to go for a hot Rod (RS?) wagon. But got as far as the fender flares and gave up.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 16,159
    edited January 21

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @roadburner said:
    My wife's E39 got around just fine on Michelin Artic Alpins. And it wasn't too maintenance intensive either.

    Arctic?? Not sure what Artic is…

    You will have to ask someone at Michelin about that, as that is the name of that particular winter tire.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 16,159

    @qbrozen said:
    This is too awesome not to pass on for my fellow buyers. Be the only one on your block.

    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/662986151530460/

    Craptastic!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
    Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,630

    @roadburner said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @roadburner said:
    My wife's E39 got around just fine on Michelin Artic Alpins. And it wasn't too maintenance intensive either.

    Arctic?? Not sure what Artic is…


    You will have to ask someone at Michelin about that, as that is the name of that particular winter tire.

    >

    Must have been discontinued

    https://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Reviews/Michelin/Arctic+Alpin

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 5,291

    @qbrozen said:

    @stickguy said:
    Interesting design choices on that Focus. But kinda forgot the go fast parts.

    Everybody knows that each stick-on vent or louver adds 10 hp

    Not really but now I do.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 16,130
    qbrozen said:

    This is too awesome not to pass on for my fellow buyers. Be the only one on your block.

    Haha; I don't care what shenanigans it has going on there, a ZX with an automatic is an automatic pass. :(

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,806
    When did the GTI get so expensive? Was just killing some time between meetings and goodness gracious that's a lot of coin.
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2022 Hyundai Elantra N
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 46,941
    New? Isn’t a model with moonroof and a few goodies in the mid-30s now? Guessing a loaded R is near 50k.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,334
    Yeah, between price creep and the lack of any discounts at all, the GTI isn't nearly as affordable as it once was. But to be fair, I don't think the MSRP has necessarily increased all that much. You're just not getting $2-5k off like you once were.

    2021 Polestar 2 - 2020 MB E450 Wagon - 2022 Mach E GT - 2004 330i ZHP - 2023 MINI Hardtop S

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 16,130
    breld said:

    Yeah, between price creep and the lack of any discounts at all, the GTI isn't nearly as affordable as it once was. But to be fair, I don't think the MSRP has necessarily increased all that much. You're just not getting $2-5k off like you once were.

    NOTHING is as affordable as it once (recently) was. Not great times for our dollars right now. :(
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,806

    @breld said:
    Yeah, between price creep and the lack of any discounts at all, the GTI isn't nearly as affordable as it once was. But to be fair, I don't think the MSRP has necessarily increased all that much. You're just not getting $2-5k off like you once were.

    This is probably right. Also doesn’t help that most of the stock right now is high optioned SEs and Autobahns so the lowest prices I’m seeing is 37-41k.

    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2022 Hyundai Elantra N
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,036

    @breld said:

    Yeah, between price creep and the lack of any discounts at all, the GTI isn't nearly as affordable as it once was. But to be fair, I don't think the MSRP has necessarily increased all that much. You're just not getting $2-5k off like you once were.

    This is probably right. Also doesn’t help that most of the stock right now is high optioned SEs and Autobahns so the lowest prices I’m seeing is 37-41k.


    Nothing you can add to an SE but DSG and leather (pass on both). $35K is the new $30K.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,346
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @qbrozen said:

    Factory paint can never be replicated.

    It can be surpassed by many but the thickness is not the same


    For every guy that can surpass factory paint quality there has got to be 10 bums working in the industry that couldn't if you gave them 1,000 tries on 1,000 vehicles.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWMember Posts: 3,393
    edited January 21
    A nice split window ‘vette at Barrett-Jackson now:








  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,346
    mjfloyd1 said:

    andres3 said:

    andres3 said:

    sda said:

    @xwesx Between you and @andres3 your mechanical issues with the Audis is not giving me the warm and fuzzies about long term ownership of our Q5 or VW. I hope it isn’t a serious problem. Bah humbug!

    The VW Tiguan has been stellar up to 19K miles now, and the TTS continues to rack them up and is fine nearing 54K miles.

    The S4 is catastrophic engine failure of course.

    Metal and junk and shavings everywhere. They tried to clean the oil housing and oil cooler but they are beyond saving; just uncleanable. Don't want to introduce old engine metal to the new engine, so ordering an aftermarket housing to save some money on plastic as German plastic is expensive, and went OEM oil cooler as that has metal components and it was only $100 more than aftermarket.

    Latest message from the shop:

    Looks like we had to disassemble the supercharger as well. There’s a bunch of crap inside it along with metal shavings as well. I’m hoping we can get most of it out and cleaned out from behind the intercoolers so we don’t have to replace them.

    The water jacket in the block broke causing coolant and oil to mix everywhere.


    It probably is easier to replace than "fix" things.

    Looks like a 2022 finish on this repair job.
    Am I getting this right, the engine block actually failed? That would seem to be a manufacturing defect. Should Audi stand behind something like that? Blocks don’t usually crack, at least not internally.
    Hitachi HPFP..... Hitachi is on my brown colored list now.
    Does detonation cause piston to destruct which damages the block?
    No, but it can get fuel into the motor oil and reduce lubrication to zero.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 17,912
    What scares me about buying one those expensive old cars is that there used to be a cottage industry producing whatever data plates you wanted.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,526
    Could be worse... you might have invested in crypto a while ago.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,334
    This doesn't seem like a crazy price for what it is (even taking into account the Carfax ding)...

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-328i-wagon-12/

    2021 Polestar 2 - 2020 MB E450 Wagon - 2022 Mach E GT - 2004 330i ZHP - 2023 MINI Hardtop S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 46,941
    lovely car. perfect spec.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 17,912
    Isn't 2012 the worst year for a BMW?
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,346
    2014 Camry SE Sport 40Kmiles for $17,700 on Carvana, Vroom lower... for my parents to tempt them to sell.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,346
    breld said:

    This doesn't seem like a crazy price for what it is (even taking into account the Carfax ding)...

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-328i-wagon-12/

    How much is a wagon premium over an otherwise identical sedan? Seems pricy to me for the low HP motor version from BMW.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,473
    I don't care for the wheels on that 328i, and 2012 is getting to the point where it's generally expected that a high end car will have factory nav, although at $42k MSRP, this one is pretty minimally equipped for an E9x. I'm going to be the contrarian and say that, yes, $26.5k is too much for a ten year old mainstream model BMW that stickered for $42k and is halfway to the 150k mile mark.
  • rny421rny421 Member Posts: 158
    @breld - How do you like the X5 PHEV so far? How many miles of electric range have you been getting?

    We will probably consider a PHEV to replace the GLC. I like the X5 and the new NX PHEV. Our GLC has been good *knock on wood* - we've got 52K miles on it now, and haven't really had many issues. We didn't put many miles on it from 2020-2021, but put 15K or so on it this last year, despite both working from home.

    Once summer comes, the miles will decrease on my E-Tron now that I have th M235. I took the E-Tron on a 180 mile round trip for work this week, and was able to charge at my destination, and then just turn around and come home, which was pretty cool. That being said, EVs have a LONG way to go, as I think of people like my parents who would never want to deal with range anxiety or the complexities of figuring out where to charge on a road trip. The range RAPIDLY decreases when you're going 70+, which is usually how I drive B)
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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,413
    OF, our lot of vehicles to be sold is also overflowing right now, parking there is a real challenge to be honest. And new vehicles are coming in daily with lots of Nissans lately. We did over 28 hours this week and since I worked two Sundays in my pay that I got today, did real good. Unfortunately, no work this past Sunday or this weekend though I let my boss know I was available both days. Wanted to work this Sunday as both my daughter & my wife are working so I'll be home with nothing to do & no one to play with.
    On a side note, we're going to order a new 50" smart t v either tomorrow or Sunday. The time has come where I really need a blue tooth t v to keep the noise level down & a smart one is the best way to go. Out of all the brands I've looked at, the Sony has the best reviews by customers so think that'll be the one. Will know more tomorrow when I go look at the unit before I buy online. Luckily, today's check will more than cover it!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 46,941
    Breld your signature line is behind again. Need to keep that up because nobody can remember what you own any particular day!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,375

    @Sandman6472 said:
    OF, our lot of vehicles to be sold is also overflowing right now, parking there is a real challenge to be honest. And new vehicles are coming in daily with lots of Nissans lately. We did over 28 hours this week and since I worked two Sundays in my pay that I got today, did real good. Unfortunately, no work this past Sunday or this weekend though I let my boss know I was available both days. Wanted to work this Sunday as both my daughter & my wife are working so I'll be home with nothing to do & no one to play with.
    On a side note, we're going to order a new 50" smart t v either tomorrow or Sunday. The time has come where I really need a blue tooth t v to keep the noise level down & a smart one is the best way to go. Out of all the brands I've looked at, the Sony has the best reviews by customers so think that'll be the one. Will know more tomorrow when I go look at the unit before I buy online. Luckily, today's check will more than cover it!

    Funny you mention the Nissans. I drove by the local Nissan dealer yesterday and they appeared to be very well in stock compared to the Ford and Buick/GMC dealer on the same road.

    Can’t go wrong with a Sony TV.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,526
    tjc78 said:


    Can’t go wrong with a Sony TV.

    Well, I had two of them go bad one me prematurely. I will never buy another.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,637
    edited January 22
    After seeing just how bad a Highlander will potentially cost to lease at sticker, I decided to focus on my 2nd choice for a 3 row SUV to replace our 2017 Pilot. A 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited. My broker suggested to me that there are some nice incentives on the '21s, CULA Credit Union has a very favorable lease program, and the '21s currently qualify for the affiliate incentive (tread lightly in my case). Credit Unions usually only lease to people in a certain state. So I've got to find a Jeep dealer in CT that has a '21 GCL in stock (optioned how I would like it), works with CULA, and will take my affiliate incentive.

    That being said, my first call was to a dealer right across the border in NY. A friend of mine recently made a contact while shopping, so I figured I'd give them a call. These are either from US Bank or Ally. The guy said the CCAP lease would be approximately $9 more per month. Here's what they sent me for a demo with 4,100 miles on it:



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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,375
    edited January 22

    What’s the MSRP? Im guessing 48K or so? I just can’t wrap my head around these leases. May as well just buy it for $760 a month.

    Edit .. this is a demo. Ugh

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,375

    @ab348 said:
    Well, I had two of them go bad one me prematurely. I will never buy another.

    I’m surprised. I’ve had several going back to tube TVs and all have been flawless.

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,836
    “ Luckily, today's check will more than cover it!”

    That “play money” does come in handy. I still can’t believe they pay us for doing this job. :p

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,836
    tjc78 said:

    @Sandman6472 said:

    OF, our lot of vehicles to be sold is also overflowing right now, parking there is a real challenge to be honest. And new vehicles are coming in daily with lots of Nissans lately. We did over 28 hours this week and since I worked two Sundays in my pay that I got today, did real good. Unfortunately, no work this past Sunday or this weekend though I let my boss know I was available both days. Wanted to work this Sunday as both my daughter & my wife are working so I'll be home with nothing to do & no one to play with.

    On a side note, we're going to order a new 50" smart t v either tomorrow or Sunday. The time has come where I really need a blue tooth t v to keep the noise level down & a smart one is the best way to go. Out of all the brands I've looked at, the Sony has the best reviews by customers so think that'll be the one. Will know more tomorrow when I go look at the unit before I buy online. Luckily, today's check will more than cover it!

    Funny you mention the Nissans. I drove by the local Nissan dealer yesterday and they appeared to be very well in stock compared to the Ford and Buick/GMC dealer on the same road.

    Can’t go wrong with a Sony TV.


    Up here we’re getting in a lot of big Fords, Toyotas and Nissans into inventory. Also a ton of Ram trucks. They are still buying a lot of used vehicles right off dealer lots.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,637
    tjc78 said:

    What’s the MSRP? Im guessing 48K or so? I just can’t wrap my head around these leases. May as well just buy it for $760 a month.

    Edit .. this is a demo. Ugh

    MSRP is just over $50K. I really want to keep leasing. I don't want to finance a Grand Cherokee, especially the brand new model. With my wife and I both driving so much, I'd rather just turn it in and get another 1 in 3 years. I put money down on our current Pilot, plus it is worth a decent amount right now. Ideally I'd like to cash out of it and not roll the equity into another financed vehicle.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,334
    @nyccarguy - I may have missed it, but did you get a chance to drive the Grand Cherokee L? I would imagine it’s a nice ride.

    I mean, if you and your wife like it and are comfortable with the payment terms, go for it. We all shop so often that we’re very in tune with the market…which means we all remember very well what these cars cost to buy or lease a mere year ago. But that’s certainly not the reality right now, and probably not for another year at least. Maybe we never get back to the place of crazy discounts if the manufacturers decide they like the idea of limiting inventory.

    So the fun stuff…what color is this GC demo?

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,375

    @nyccarguy said:
    MSRP is just over $50K. I really want to keep leasing. I don't want to finance a Grand Cherokee, especially the brand new model. With my wife and I both driving so much, I'd rather just turn it in and get another 1 in 3 years. I put money down on our current Pilot, plus it is worth a decent amount right now. Ideally I'd like to cash out of it and not roll the equity into another financed vehicle.

    Completely understand. The good thing is you know the outcome and you aren’t at the mercy of what could ever happen to the market. I said it a few weeks back, that in this market you are better off paying the going rate for a lease than rolling the dice on something used at these prices.

    Like @breld said we all know the current market. I do believe that we will see large inventories and discounts again, but who knows when that will happen.

    As for the Jeep, I’ve seen quite a few videos on it and I like it a lot!

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,806

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but I found out this morning that one does not get a trade in tax credit for trading a lease in WA. There is a carve out in the code that isn’t on their consumer site.

    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2022 Hyundai Elantra N
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,574
    Yep, you gotta buy it then trade it in, pay that extra tax, then get the credit, or don't get it at all.

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but I found out this morning that one does not get a trade in tax credit for trading a lease in WA. There is a carve out in the code that isn’t on their consumer site.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,806
    edited January 22

    @fintail said:
    Yep, you gotta buy it then trade it in, pay that extra tax, then get the credit, or don't get it at all.

    Welp. That stinks.

    Not that I’m entitled to it - I haven’t paid full sales tax.

    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2022 Hyundai Elantra N
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,637
    breld said:

    @nyccarguy - I may have missed it, but did you get a chance to drive the Grand Cherokee L? I would imagine it’s a nice ride.

    I mean, if you and your wife like it and are comfortable with the payment terms, go for it. We all shop so often that we’re very in tune with the market…which means we all remember very well what these cars cost to buy or lease a mere year ago. But that’s certainly not the reality right now, and probably not for another year at least. Maybe we never get back to the place of crazy discounts if the manufacturers decide they like the idea of limiting inventory.

    So the fun stuff…what color is this GC demo?

    I did drive the GCL and liked it. The DEMO is Black/Brown.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 16,159
    tjc78 said:

    @Sandman6472 said:

    OF, our lot of vehicles to be sold is also overflowing right now, parking there is a real challenge to be honest. And new vehicles are coming in daily with lots of Nissans lately. We did over 28 hours this week and since I worked two Sundays in my pay that I got today, did real good. Unfortunately, no work this past Sunday or this weekend though I let my boss know I was available both days. Wanted to work this Sunday as both my daughter & my wife are working so I'll be home with nothing to do & no one to play with.

    On a side note, we're going to order a new 50" smart t v either tomorrow or Sunday. The time has come where I really need a blue tooth t v to keep the noise level down & a smart one is the best way to go. Out of all the brands I've looked at, the Sony has the best reviews by customers so think that'll be the one. Will know more tomorrow when I go look at the unit before I buy online. Luckily, today's check will more than cover it!

    Funny you mention the Nissans. I drove by the local Nissan dealer yesterday and they appeared to be very well in stock compared to the Ford and Buick/GMC dealer on the same road.

    Can’t go wrong with a Sony TV.


    I love my Sony 950H(which has since been superseded). For some reason the Panasonic UB820-K 4K BD player wouldn't work with the X950H so I exchanged it for a Sony UBP-X800M2. It works great and saved me $250 over the Panasonic.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
    Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

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